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So the people is now complaining because there could be an unobtrusive extra row of information that will not affect in anyway the 'normal' screen content? and they prefer a thicker bezel instead of having this extra bit of screen?

I don't know what else to say, read the patent! It seems clear to me that no 'normal' content will be affected in case this rumour becomes true, because so far is just that, a rumour. It's extra space that otherwise cannot be used, unless you remove the camera and other sensors.
Why would the bezel have to be any thicker than “extra bit of screen”? You’re paying for those pixels to display black…just to hide a clunky camera implementatio.
 
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Not if it's like TouchBar, you can only edit it in settings, and it prevents mouse cursor entering that area... but then they can't use things like Wifi icon there, battery and date are perfectly possible though!
Seems like the new apple to make simple things more complex.

So you’re saying that you cant simply click on a News notification, for example, to get more info, but rather you have to open the News app, locate that article, and then click on it to read it? Even RSS feed emails have links.

Besides, the TouchBar was interactive which means its now superior to the new screen. LOL
 
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I imagine it will be limited to the OS and not third-party apps in order to streamline it's usefulness. Apple doesn't want another Touch Bar situation after all...

As per the mixy's mockup, Apple may be rethinking how the menu bar is actually used. Knowing their typical attention to detail, I can't see Apple placing information 'above' the the Apple menu logo unless absolute essential, which is why I imagine it will be used on a per-app basis or for extended system information.

I want to believe they'll do something with the menu bar controls on the right, but again it would look off if you had half of these controls set against your desktop colour and the other half a black background. But then again, that presumes that the new area would be black and not take on the hue of the menu bar...

It's going to be a long day!
 
Just stupid rumors. If they want a notch they already would have implemented that in the iPad Pros/Airs first.
 
So they actually don’t remove the emojibar: all the emojis will be displayed surrounding the notch
 


Following the last-minute rumor that Apple's upcoming new MacBook Pro models could feature a notch at the top of the display, much of the online discussion has involved concerns that such a notch would encroach on the active screen area, potentially eating into the macOS menu bar.
You know, the iPad Pro has a “notch” so to speak, with a full Face ID array, and it doesn’t intrude into the display area. Why would a MacBook (in accordance with these rumors) be any different?
 
You know, the iPad Pro has a “notch” so to speak, with a full Face ID array, and it doesn’t intrude into the display area. Why would a MacBook (in accordance with these rumors) be any different?
Because the iPad Pro is considerably thicker than the screen of a MacBook Pro which likely helps.
 
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Now I want a notch and if it isn't there I'd be pissed o_O
What is this marketing magic...
 
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What did you expect? All the renders and rumours show the new MBPs with near bezel-less screens. Is that what you want? If so, where do they put the front-facing camera? Notch. It really is a no-brainier.
 
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Seems a lot of people are exploding at the idea of a notch without actually reading the full article, because to me it seems like a fantastic idea. The notch is not removing any screen space.. rather, it is adding additional screen space to either side of where the webcam currently sits in the top bezel. This could mean system icons, e.g. battery %, could be moved up to this new, additional screen space, which will free-up screen space down below which is still 19:10 and uninterrupted by the notch.

Not long now anyway until we see if this rumour comes to fruition and how exactly everything will function.

Here's a quick and dirty shop of how I think they are going to implement the notch. So instead of a big top bezel that does nothing but house the webcam, they are going to use that space to free up the menu bar and provide additional information, maybe allow apps to use it. So I don't think the notch is even going to be visible, everything under the notch area stays the same, we just get one more row of info on top of the existing interface. Win-win if you ask me.

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Perfect mock-up - if only the original article had something like this people might‘ve understood the whole idea a bit better.
 
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My interpretation of patent; original aspect ratio below notch, with additional area [extended menu bar] either side of notch.
 
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My interpretation of patent; original aspect ratio below notch, with additional area [extended menu bar] either side of notch.

Sorry but you interpreted it wrong...

"Icons or other information may be displayed on a black background in the extended regions"

It is black and it doesn't mention it is the menu bar itself.

Also you missed:

"Giving the display a continuous unbroken appearance"

Or maybe I interpreted your interpretation wrongly :p
 
Sorry but you interpreted it wrong...

"Icons or other information may be displayed on a black background in the extended regions"

It is black and it doesn't mention it is the menu bar itself.

Also you missed:

"Giving the display a continuous unbroken appearance"

Or maybe I interpreted your interpretation wrongly :p
I interpreted my fish-memory wrong!!
 
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The new screen is the final revenge of the TouchBar true-believers; and to teach us a lesson they removed the touch part. LOL

One thing is for sure the NotchBar will be as unsupported as the TouchBar was.
 
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Seems a lot of people are exploding at the idea of a notch without actually reading the full article, because to me it seems like a fantastic idea. The notch is not removing any screen space.. rather, it is adding additional screen space to either side of where the webcam currently sits in the top bezel. This could mean system icons, e.g. battery %, could be moved up to this new, additional screen space, which will free-up screen space down below which is still 19:10 and uninterrupted by the notch.

Not long now anyway until we see if this rumour comes to fruition and how exactly everything will function.


Perfect mock-up - if only the original article had something like this people might‘ve understood the whole idea a bit better.
This is still fixing a problem that does not need to be introduced in the first place. There are no chances the OS or any software will have bugs with this new "untouchable" "permanently visible" bar of contents right. Everything is bug proof? Relying on essentially software bezels introduces the chances for bugs, where if it was just like before, there is no pixels at all to worry about - so its a hardware limitation instead of software. It is also a visual distraction. I notice the notch every time I use my iPhone because there is a giant black rectangle obstructing the display. Its a gap in the visual.

No matter what they decide to include in this extra space, the notch will still be around pixels that light up. Therefore, it is guaranteed to be a distraction because in the middle of the extra space you will just see a black rectangle. There is no denying that its an obstruction of the display and I find it extremely distracting on my iPhone.
 
First world problems. Blows my mind how many ppl are up in arms on this. You can always hook the laptop to an external display folks
Unless Monterey comes with a mandatory virtual notch, to alloy every mac user to enjoy the benefits of its ellegance.

Anyway, the sensible thing is to wait and see IF there’s a notch (a big if), and in such case, how it’s implemented. On the other hand, people love to complain pre-emptively, so who are we to take the complaining away from them.
 
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I have a feeling it will be applied to both as it’s going to be a flagship design. It will be spread all across.

Apple, I’m waiting for Apple Watch with a notch :)

For consistency, we need a notch on the Mac Pro as well. I would like to see a notch device (an iNotch?) to be installed to a Pro Display XDR, or maybe a new Apple Pro Display with a built-in notch?
 
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How will this work with external displays? Clamshell mode? If there will be important information in this new screen space, it will need to be reflected on external displays. Its just asking for bugs with the software.
 
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