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Wow. I figured for a bigger place like Target it might take a bit, but I didn't think HyVee would get it before Kroger. Either way, since I'm at HyVee a lot (usually 1-3 times a week), that put me over the edge and got me to activate it on my phone finally.
 



Apple today announced that Apple Pay is in the process of rolling out in Target stores across the United States and will be available at all of the retailer's 1,850 locations nationwide in the coming weeks.

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While it has accepted Apple Pay in its app for quite some time, Target was one of the biggest Apple Pay holdouts in terms of its stores.

Apple Pay is also rolling out to more than 7,000 Taco Bell and 2,200 Jack in the Box locations in the United States in the next few months, and recently became available at more than 245 Hy-Vee grocery stores in the Midwest as well as approximately 3,000 Speedway locations across the country, according to Apple.

With the addition of these national retailers, 74 of the top 100 merchants in the United States and 65 percent of all retail locations across the country support or will soon support Apple Pay, according to Apple. This includes last year's major additions of Costco, CVS, and 7-Eleven.

Update: REDcards cannot be added to Apple Pay at this time, according to Target's customer service account on Twitter. We've reached out to a company spokesperson for confirmation.



Article Link: Apple Pay Rolling Out at Target, Taco Bell, and Jack in the Box Across the U.S. in Coming Weeks
I try to limit my purchases to only store that accept Apple Pay. Hopefully, Kroger will follow soon. Was disappointed that Home Depot disabled their NFC, but found an Ace hardware nearby that takes Apple Pay, so I'm good there.
 
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That is not true. Walmart does *not* pay a small transaction fee - the ~0.12% ApplePay charges is born by the card issuing bank, not the merchant.

But it is about money, for sure. Walmart's margins are razor thin and has been trying to get its users to use its system (or cash or check) for years as that would allow it to circumvent whatever transaction fees they have to pay to the credit card company (small vendors pay around 3% - I doubt Walmart pays anywhere near that, but it's over 1% for sure.)
As I pointed out in a later post, what I meant was that Walmart pays the credit card processor/bank (Visa/Mastercard/Amex) a small percentage of each cc transaction. It's been estimated at around 1% of the transaction, which is much lower than what other merchants are charged, due to Walmart's huge scale and ability to negotiate.

As for the ApplePay fee, yes, it does come out of that fee, so the merchant doesn't exactly see the charge directly from Apple, but it's there indirectly.

All in all, Walmart would prefer people to use their debit cards.

EDIT - regarding the 0.12% fee to Apple. I just re-read your post. Are you saying that the fee that Apple collects is independent of the processing fee that the merchant (in this case Walmart) pays to the processor? So in a situation where someone uses a Chase Visa card via ApplePay. The merchant pays Visa around 1%. Chase pays Apple 0.12%. Not sure if Chase gets paid anything of if the ApplePay fee is somehow incorporated into something else.
 
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Walmart Pay is tied to whatever card you want it tied to, Debit or Credit card. No Walmart branded card required.
True, but (and this is not completely researched by me, but I think I read something to the effect) a shopper using WalmartPay is not transparent to Walmart. They know what you bought and the CC that you used. With ApplePay, Walmart gets nothing out of the deal, other than the sale of the product. They don't know who you are or even your credit card number.

And yes, you can link a debit, credit or prepaid card to WalmartPay. But I'm sure they would prefer you not to use your CC, as that would still result in a fee that they'd have to pay.

No, it doesn’t. The cut Apple gets comes from the issuing bank, not the retailer.

If you’re talking about the standard credit card fee that all retailers have to pay Walmart Pay doesn’t eliminate that either because Walmart Pay works with your standard credit cards.
See above. Using WalmartPay over ApplePay is beneficial to Walmart even if the shopper uses a credit card. They get your identity when you use WalmartPay, but not when you use ApplePay.
 
I live in UK. No Target. You are talking about risks that are extremely low. Do you perceive a risk removing your card at a contactless terminal and touching the reader? Then putting back in wallet. Or inserting card in reader (not swipe terminal) and protecting PIN entry from prying eyes.
Have you used a chip terminal in the US? Walmart & Target have the slowest chip & PIN readers on earth.

CVS, Walgreens, etc chip & PIN readers are as fast as a Contactless card.
 
Just need a few more places I shop at before I’m totally Apple Pay reliant. For me, Whataburger (still doesn’t take chip), HEB, James Coney Island, and Raisin’ Canes. I don’t know if In and Out takes Apple Pay, but they aren’t open yet in the Houston area.
 
But they could do that and that would be all that’s required to make it work. That is my whole point here dude and what you were originally disputing.
But your scenario will never happen in business, which is what I was saying.
 
I live in UK. No Target. You are talking about risks that are extremely low. Do you perceive a risk removing your card at a contactless terminal and touching the reader? Then putting back in wallet. Or inserting card in reader (not swipe terminal) and protecting PIN entry from prying eyes.
So the risk is low. Does that mean I shouldn't do anything to make it even lower? What exactly are you arguing for here?
 
Not that I'm a germaphobe, but one of the things I most LOVE about using Apple Pay from my watch, is not having to sign with that grody pen that hasn't been cleaned in ages!;)
 
Just need a few more places I shop at before I’m totally Apple Pay reliant. For me, Whataburger (still doesn’t take chip), HEB, James Coney Island, and Raisin’ Canes. I don’t know if In and Out takes Apple Pay, but they aren’t open yet in the Houston area.
Whataburger takes Apple Pay, it just doesn't say it on the screen. Hold up the phone and it'll work fine.
 
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This is pretty common knowledge that enabling NFC is all that is required. Apple Pay operates using the same EMV contactless technology that Google Pay, as well as all contactless payment cards, use. If you turn on NFC, it enables the POS to accept Apple Pay, Google Pay, Samsung Pay, and contactless payment cards unless your payment processor has disabled it for some reason.

This info is on Apple’s own website for crying out loud:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205747
Well, SamsungPay works without even the terminal being NFC enabled, works on any POS, as old as you can imagine, works for me everywhere, including Walmart.
 
So you work in the ApplePay division of Apple?

No, do you?

You are totally wrong. What part of the other items I listed didn't make sense? Apple is NOT going to allow their product to be available without the proper marketing materials, contract terms, training, software, etc being done beforehand.

Apple Pay is available at many smaller retailers who have done nothing with Apple to make it work. They simply use Clover, PayAnywhere, PayPal, Square or some other payment processor and have one of the NFC capable readers. Many merchants do not even realize they accept Apple Pay (for example the Hyatt Place hotels in Milwaukee and San Jose did not know it worked). Apple even has a way for people to order Apple Pay stickers without needing to set anything up with Apple

Business is not done this way, no matter how "simple" it is to just "turn on."

Apparently, Apple disagrees with you:

My point-of-sale terminal is already NFC/FeliCa/contactless payment-capable. Can I accept Apple Pay right away?
If you accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover, China Union Pay, Suica, iD, QUICPay, or Interac contactless payments today, you’re likely able to accept Apple Pay for those networks without any changes. If you’re not already accepting contactless payments, contact your payment provider to make sure that your point-of-sale setup can accept Apple Pay, then ask them to enable it. To learn more, see our Apple Pay merchant checklist.
 
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Well, SamsungPay works without even the terminal being NFC enabled, works on any POS, as old as you can imagine, works for me everywhere, including Walmart.

Except then it's no more secure than using the mag stripe. Because that's all it's doing is emulating the magnetic stripe. Maybe a little more convenient, but doesn't have any of the minimal security improvements of something like Apple Pay or a chip.
 
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No, do you?



Apple Pay is available at many smaller retailers who have done nothing with Apple to make it work. They simply use Clover, PayAnywhere, PayPal, Square or some other payment processor and have one of the NFC capable readers. Many merchants do not even realize they accept Apple Pay (for example the Hyatt Place hotels in Milwaukee and San Jose did not know it worked). Apple even has a way for people to order Apple Pay stickers without needing to set anything up with Apple



Apparently, Apple disagrees with you:

My point-of-sale terminal is already NFC/FeliCa/contactless payment-capable. Can I accept Apple Pay right away?
If you accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover, China Union Pay, Suica, iD, QUICPay, or Interac contactless payments today, you’re likely able to accept Apple Pay for those networks without any changes. If you’re not already accepting contactless payments, contact your payment provider to make sure that your point-of-sale setup can accept Apple Pay, then ask them to enable it. To learn more, see our Apple Pay merchant checklist.

It’s a lost cause. This guy so badly wants to believe he has the inside scoop that there is no point arguing otherwise.
 
Well, SamsungPay works without even the terminal being NFC enabled, works on any POS, as old as you can imagine, works for me everywhere, including Walmart.

Which makes it no different than using the actual card in terms of security. So when Walmart gets hacked the bad guys will have your real credit card number as well as your name and any data associated with it. On the other hand Apple Pay, Google Pay, and other NFC token payment systems don’t reveal your credit card or personal data to the retailer. That makes Samsung Pay the least secure payment system doesn’t it.
 
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No, do you?



Apple Pay is available at many smaller retailers who have done nothing with Apple to make it work. They simply use Clover, PayAnywhere, PayPal, Square or some other payment processor and have one of the NFC capable readers. Many merchants do not even realize they accept Apple Pay (for example the Hyatt Place hotels in Milwaukee and San Jose did not know it worked). Apple even has a way for people to order Apple Pay stickers without needing to set anything up with Apple



Apparently, Apple disagrees with you:

My point-of-sale terminal is already NFC/FeliCa/contactless payment-capable. Can I accept Apple Pay right away?
If you accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover, China Union Pay, Suica, iD, QUICPay, or Interac contactless payments today, you’re likely able to accept Apple Pay for those networks without any changes. If you’re not already accepting contactless payments, contact your payment provider to make sure that your point-of-sale setup can accept Apple Pay, then ask them to enable it. To learn more, see our Apple Pay merchant checklist.
Already been posted. That is clearly for smaller vendors and the deal for large retailers like Target does NOT happen by simply turning it on. There are contracts and negotiations done behind the scenes.

Guess how I know?
 
It’s a lost cause. This guy so badly wants to believe he has the inside scoop that there is no point arguing otherwise.
He is misunderstanding CDCVM & Apple Pay. Every NFC terminal will accept Apple Pay, it won't accept CDCVM Right off the bat.
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I despise Walmart. But for some people that's the only option they have.
Opposite for me, Target is down the road, and Walmart is MILES away. Guess which one I go to and now will be happy they accept NFC Payments?
 
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