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Apple Pay With iPhone 6 Demoed in McDonald's Purchase
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Not sure that is all that much quicker. Not even sure it is much more secure. Your card is still 'visible' to be skimmed. Also no need to carry around the credit card in your wallet which is a big plus. Heck the day may come when you don't even need your wallet.
Or your phone.
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If you go to Walgreen's or CVS, you still have to show them your store card to get the sale price.
Id rather carry just my phone, than carry both (which I do, every day, all the time)
Id rather carry just my phone, than carry both (which I do, every day, all the time)
If you go to Walgreen's, you still need your Walgreen's card to get the sale price.
I've got a MUCH faster option than Apple Pay at McDonalds...
Drive up to McDonalds, don't stop and keep driving.
Drive up to McDonalds, don't stop and keep driving.
Walgreens has been in Passbook since it launched. I don't even know where my plastic card is. No card needed. Scan the phone, then move to the NFC device and pay.
Also consider this...
If I steal your credit card... I believe I can just use it 'as is' using NFC.
If I steal your iPhone, I cannot use your credit card without your fingerprint.
If I steal your credit card... I believe I can just use it 'as is' using NFC.
If I steal your iPhone, I cannot use your credit card without your fingerprint.
If the cashier actually verified Id or signature as they're supposed to, they can't simply use it as is.
You don't have an iPhone do you. So far you know nothing about it. Just saying. When I get to the check out my phone already has the rewards card on the notification screen. If you had a iPhone you would know this already.
Would not be surprised, although it may be alot of $1-$3 items .got fries and a drink earlier just to try it out - which was slick.
Apple did their job on this (providing they don't blow the backend security somehow). Given a choice of retailers that are similar, I will choose the one that offers NFC .providing Apple doesn't flub it, this will drive sales of additional phones for several years JMHO
If that is actually part of the transaction process then I don't see how using the NFC card is faster. Otherwise, many cashiers who don't do this are leaving it less secure.
If you steal my credit card, I lose nothing. If you steal my iPhone, I lose my iPhone.
If I steal your iPhone, you can track me down and go vigilante... that is after I go shopping with your credit card
Glad you see the benefits. But you're assertion that skimming would still work is incorrect. "Your card" is never visible in the process. Heck, "your card" isn't even stored on the iPhone. What would be skimmed is a useless number that cannot be used again for any purpose.
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If I steal your iPhone, you can track me down and go vigilante... that is after I go shopping with your credit card
And how would you go shopping with his credit card? Unless you stole his finger with the phone. And worst case, he could just lock the phone using Find my iPhone, no need to track you down himself and go vigilante.
The key thing everyone should remember about Apple Pay, is security. So many merchants have been hacked and customer debit and credit information had been stolen. I personally had at least four cards replaced due to the information being compromised at the merchant. Apple Pay = Security. Speed is not a big factor at all.
Credit cards in Canada have PayPass and chip&pin. Paypass for purchases under 100$ and chip&pin for bigger purchases.
I only have one credit card in my wallet, so I just tap the wallet on the machine. If they put the terminals a bit lower, I could just tap my ass on the thing!
And my CC never runs out of battery.
I only have one credit card in my wallet, so I just tap the wallet on the machine. If they put the terminals a bit lower, I could just tap my ass on the thing!
And my CC never runs out of battery.
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Question:
When the register ready for payment does the phone automatically wake up and just ask for your approval fingerprint, or do you have to have passbook already up and waiting beforehand?
The guy in the video had his card already up on screen before making the purchase. I was under the impression the phone automatically poped up with your default card.
When the register ready for payment does the phone automatically wake up and just ask for your approval fingerprint, or do you have to have passbook already up and waiting beforehand?
The guy in the video had his card already up on screen before making the purchase. I was under the impression the phone automatically poped up with your default card.
Why does it take 2 tries for it to work in the demo?
Is the cashier suppose to do something to 'activate' NFC/Apple Pay?
In the video, you hear her acknowledge she forgot to do something on her end (push a button?) and then instructs payer to proceed with payment. At which point it finally works
Is the cashier suppose to do something to 'activate' NFC/Apple Pay?
In the video, you hear her acknowledge she forgot to do something on her end (push a button?) and then instructs payer to proceed with payment. At which point it finally works
Absolutely not true...I just used Apple Pay IN New Zealand (at Countdown grocery store) and with my keys and phone in hand, placed fingerprint and within 3 seconds receipt was printing out and done....no card to take out, no pin to enter, no card to insert, no signature....cashier was a bit confused though
Being able to buy McFlurry's for $1 is a dream my body is glad I haven't realised. Things cost $4.25 here.
OT: this is a good advancement, we have NFC as standard in bank cards here in the broken country of Australia, credit and debit. They are limited to <$100 per transaction, but there is no security and it allows for the potential of wireless pickpocketing or using someone else's card with nothing to stop you. Apple Pay counters those issues, and is a more appropriate use of NFC technology.
What I don't like about Touch ID is that it installs one more step between the device and end user. Currently if I was to access information that, for whatever reason, just or not, could lead me into trouble, there is hardware allowing people to know that I was using the device within moments of that information being activated. As it stands with my iPhone 5 I can still plead ignorance and the trail ends at the serial of my phone/device. If I had a newer iPhone, there is more information to deduce what I personally am using the device for. I'm not a very seedy person, but that information at the very least is worth money that someone else is earning at my expense. And it doesn't really offer me anything. I'm happy typing a pin, and I'd be happy for a fingerprint reader to be installed on my house/car without a network connection, but it's too easy to exploit people nowadays, what else can you expect to happen?
The larger retailers pay for that privilege and guess who sells them that data. Google is in the business of acquiring and selling personal data.