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It could be argued that since Target has lost a lot of reputation as the result of leaking personal information of its customers and thus enabling fraud on a huge scale (which costs those customers time and aggravation as they deal with fraud and card replacements), enabling a tokenised, secure payment system that works with standard NFC terminals and also has biometric authentication should be a very high priority.

Sadly, they seem more interested in the CurrenC system which, I believe, not only doesn't work with credit cards (which are a buffer against financial loss due to fraud) but requires connection to a bank account, which is very, very, very insecure.

That seems to me the opposite of what Target should be doing right now, and I say that not due to any Apple bias -- I'd like to see Google Wallet's tokenization more widely supported for Android users -- but sadly, someone's probably getting a big bonus or payoff from CurrenC for this.

What they are worried about is replacing every part of the point of sale system in every store and having it all done before the holiday season where that make almost all of their money for the year.

Now the CurrentC/MCX thing. That's not good and will be in the end I think a huge waste of time and money.
 
Does this work for self checkout?

Only if the self checkout has the same terminal that you see in the picture I posted earlier. Self checkout is not any different than any other register, and all connects to the same Point of Sale network. You notice this when a cashier logs in and you see the "regular register" interface.
 
What do these NFC terminals look like at Walmart (i.e. brand? appearance? model number?)? My Walmart just got a bunch of new credit card terminals and none of them have anything on them to indicate that they support NFC.

(they do, however, support EMV cards).
 
What do these NFC terminals look like at Walmart (i.e. brand? appearance? model number?)? My Walmart just got a bunch of new credit card terminals and none of them have anything on them to indicate that they support NFC.

(they do, however, support EMV cards).

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All Walmarts in Florida recently upgraded to these units over the summer. So you are saying that ApplePay will function just fine? No double payments because the phone uses ApplePay and the device expects whatever merchant processors they use and both end up being processed?

Does the phone have to be awake? unlocked? Passbook app launched? i dont want to stand there banging my phone against their terminal trying to figure it out.

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I am on the way to Walmart now!


Did you die? Or not responsible enough to followup and report back? LOL jk but for real... c'mon
 
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All Walmarts in Florida recently upgraded to these units over the summer. So you are saying that ApplePay will function just fine? No double payments because the phone uses ApplePay and the device expects whatever merchant processors they use and both end up being processed?

There was an issue at launch with double payments, but that was a bank-specific problem. You shouldn't get double-billed. It'll either take the payment, or you'll get declined.

Does the phone have to be awake? unlocked? Passbook app launched?

Nope. The phone can be asleep. You put the handset up to the terminal and it will sense the NFC reader, and wake up and go to your default card in Apple Pay. Then you just scan your finger and done.
 
All Walmarts in Florida recently upgraded to these units over the summer.

Not all, two of the 3 in my area don't have them, and I just haven't been to the 3rd to check. They are the one I think might have them - but I call it the "walmart i'm most apt to die at walking in the parking lot".

NO ONE can drive in it, I avoid it like the plague!
 
The phone can be asleep. You put the handset up to the terminal and it will sense the NFC reader, and wake up and go to your default card in Apple Pay. Then you just scan your finger and done.

However in my experience the terminal must be active; if self checkout you need to select credit or tell the cashier to select credit. At both HD and Subway the terminal LCD screen then displayed the NFC logo (plus other stuff)
 
It did not work for me yesterday at Target, I dont think the terminal was NFC supported.

Target.. Antiquated terminals., after being hit by hackers they should have been the first ones to update last time the hackers cost them tens of millions in sales and I for one will only pay cash in Target or Home Depot
It's almost like target is inviting hackers
If Target gets hacked again as we go into the Holiday season what a disaster that would be. Poor Mgmt
 
Target.. Antiquated terminals., after being hit by hackers they should have been the first ones to update last time the hackers cost them tens of millions in sales and I for one will only pay cash in Target or Home Depot
It's almost like target is inviting hackers
If Target gets hacked again as we go into the Holiday season what a disaster that would be. Poor Mgmt

What should they have upgraded to that would have offered better security? The only thing at the time that would have been safe to use was Google Wallet, and the 30 people using it wasn't a big enough demographic.
 
Target.. Antiquated terminals., after being hit by hackers they should have been the first ones to update last time the hackers cost them tens of millions in sales and I for one will only pay cash in Target or Home Depot
It's almost like target is inviting hackers
If Target gets hacked again as we go into the Holiday season what a disaster that would be. Poor Mgmt
Home Depot has Apple Pay and end to end encryption swipes now, so nothing to worry about. I can't speak for Target however.
 
I just came from Walmart and while I was being rung up I hit my phone on the screen like 50 times. Nothing happened. Do I have to wait for the cashier to finish ringing things up? My Walmart has the new terminals
 

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I just came from Walmart and while I was being rung up I hit my phone on the screen like 50 times. Nothing happened. Do I have to wait for the cashier to finish ringing things up? My Walmart has the new terminals
You have to wait for the total to be displayed on the little green IBM screen, then the four circles should show up on the terminal.
 
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