Well there is this little thing in Apple music (same as Spotify) called offline mode. Perhaps you guys should look into it. It downloads music to your phone so you don't have to worry about using data. (Download on Wi-Fi)
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Apple Paying 0.2 Cents for Each Song Streamed Free During Apple Music Trial Period
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Well there is this little thing in Apple music (same as Spotify) called offline mode. Perhaps you guys should look into it. It downloads music to your phone so you don't have to worry about using data. (Download on Wi-Fi)
I wonder what the terms are for songs on repeat, so if I listen to a song 5 times in a row does Apple pay the same? What would happen if I left my computer playing the same song all day..
I don't think this kind of app is the right reaction. If this catches on, then it has the potential of killing the whole streaming business model (which has not even been proven to work yet). The artists need to wait until streaming has really become a mainstream phenomenon on a similar level of popularity as radio before they say whether or not they earn a fair amount of money from it based on their "popularity".
If they really think that they are not getting a fair treatment, then the right reaction is to pull their music out of streaming services. Otherwise, they display the same sense of "entitlement" as the freeloaders who torrent their music.
I was just thinking of the economy of scale on the streaming radio side of the set-up.
In the old days, if 100 radio stations covered the land, and all broadcast the same songs at the same time, payouts would look like .02x100=2, but if there is just a single streaming station covering the same territory, payouts look like .02.
Of course the situation is vastly more complicated than my example. Can anybody comment on whether the rise of streaming means artists earn more or less than they did due to OTA broadcast?
In the old days, if 100 radio stations covered the land, and all broadcast the same songs at the same time, payouts would look like .02x100=2, but if there is just a single streaming station covering the same territory, payouts look like .02.
Of course the situation is vastly more complicated than my example. Can anybody comment on whether the rise of streaming means artists earn more or less than they did due to OTA broadcast?
Does America understand that in the UK we have unlimited 3G and 4G? And I'm guessing we're not alone.
Also, it hasn't stopped Spotify's success.
2gb???
Where are you living? Afghanistan?
If you can only afford 2gb then Apple Music's £9.99 is far from your price range.
We have hundreds of songs downloaded on Spotify on both devices and hardly use any data as we download over Wifi.
Radio royalties are very complicated depending on audience size and how they are licensed.
This site highlights the royalties per play for the UK's BBC national radio stations. A single play can earn over £80 on BBC Radio 2.
Also, to everyone bitching that 0.2 cents is low: People listen to music they like again and again. If you listen to a 10 song album you like once a week, that's 2 cents a week for 12 weeks - that's 24 cents from one user. Compare that to someone who puts their videos on YouTube... They get much less than 0.2 cents per view, and people don't rewatch videos in the same way they listen again to music. Yet people on YouTube still make enough to support themselves.
As someone else pointed out - this is more than Spotify. So Apple does what the rest of the industry does and people have a go at them.
As someone else pointed out - this is more than Spotify. So Apple does what the rest of the industry does and people have a go at them.
Do you understand that the world doesn't revolve around you? Shall I assume American?
I have a 10 GB / month plan so yes I will love this and have no issues using it daily!
What does Apple have to do with your data cap ?
If you have a data cap, this service, spotify, and pandora are not for you.
They will be making a loss no matter how many you play, the 0.247 cent per play rate only applies during the 3 month free trial period.
They will be making a loss no matter how many you play, the 0.247 cent per play rate only applies during the 3 month free trial period.
Good point, presumably the rates are even higher for the paid tier.
All this talk is about how much money the artists are going to be paid, but I'm sure it's the record companies that Apple is paying, and the artists will be getting a few cents in the dollar.
I would recommend changing carriers. I use one that gives me unlimited, uncapped, unthrottled 4G LTE data. Streaming music isn't an issue for me. And just in case I go somewhere that doesn't have coverage, just download the song to your iPhone!
Precisely.
The truth is, a subscription is bad value for almost everyone, be it for music, wine, golf, whatever. It's the same with most types of insurance and warranties.
As to Apple Music: it is bad value for both musicians and listeners. A musician needs to sell his piece just once to a listener to receive $1 via the iTunes Store, but he has to sell it 404 times to receive $1 on Apple Music. Those few musicians who are very popular will do well, but most will make very little, and will probably make much less money overall due to people not buying their music. Less good music will get written and music will continue its death throes.
As to the Play count argument: I don't think I’ll listen to any pieces more than a few dozen times. But it's still much cheaper buying music than spending $10 every month. And who is to say how much subscription prices will have to go up? You have no control over your music if you rent it. Music can disappear from the catalogue on a whim with no warning. What if Apple decides to stop the service, like Ping? If you subscribe, you're effectively betting that the service will continue for the rest of your life without fail.
When you're 90, will you still be wanting to pay $50 a month (or whatever it costs then), when you stick to your old favourites and haven't listened to anything new in years?
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So a million plays earns $247,000?Seems very generous to me!
Apple will pay record labels 0.2 cents for each song that customers stream for free during the three-month Apple Music free trial, reports The New York Times. The rate is similar to what Spotify pays out for songs accessed through its free streaming tier and does not include a smaller payment made to music publishers for songwriting rights.
Apple is still working to complete deals with publishers, but a second report from Billboard suggests the company may pay out an additional 0.047 cents per stream for song rights, for a total payment of approximately 0.247 cents for each song an Apple Music user listens to.
Though Apple did not initially plan to pay labels and publishers during the three month free trial it's providing to customers, it reversed course after both a strongly worded letter from Taylor Swift and negotiation difficulties with independent labels who balked at the terms.
The money that Apple is paying per stream during the trial period is significantly less than what rights holders will receive after Apple Music has paying customers, but it appears to have satisfied many indie labels. As of this morning, Apple signed deals with both Beggars Group and Merlin Network, companies that represent more than 20,000 indie labels and distributors.
Apple Music will officially launch next Tuesday in over 100 countries. All customers will receive a free three month trial, after which time a subscription will be required to access the service. Subscription prices vary by country, but in the U.S., an Apple Music subscription costs $9.99 per month for an individual or $14.99 per month for a family of up to 6 users.
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2gb???
Where are you living? Afghanistan?
most people i know still only have 500 mb to 1 GB and when i tell them i have 3GB they look at me like i am from the distant future. I am in Germany btw. They are technically unlimited but u only get 64 kb/s (some even as low as 32kb/s) once you reach the amount for the rest of the month. I used to have 200 mb, i dont even know how i ever managed that lol you even have to pay extra to get faster LTE. i think they offer LTE in 3 different speed categories
thats expensive compared to the rest of Europe though. I used to get 3GB for 9€ in Spain
Good question!
Who's to say that a musician couldn't subscribe to Apple Music, then put all his tracks on repeat on multiple devices 24 hours a day, in order to rack up his streaming plays?
247,000 CENT, million plays = $2470
Account would need to play 4040 songs a month for apple to lose money, ignoring cost of providing service.