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Briefly owned a Newton, just too difficult to use because the writing had to be so precise. It was more of a bother than help. If it was able to learn your writing habits, then it would be useful for taking notes in class and at meetings.
 
Re: Apple PDA?

Originally posted by Macrumors
While it may simply be speculation, one columnist claims "there's good reason to believe that a jazzy new Newton II will be forthcoming, perhaps in January" from Apple.


Yup, it is just speculation. Apple wont release a PDA, they have absolutely no reason to.
 
I could care less...

... about handwriting recognition. I want to a fancy electronic doodlepad. In color. With the ability to connect to my Airport network so I can send my doodles to my Mac. That's power, baby, like a turbine-powered weasel.

The handwriting recognition in the Newton 2xxx series was, to quote Unreal Tournament, "Godlike". It rocked. Waaaaaay better than any previous version, or anything since (though I suspect it works as good in the one built into OSX).

Steve Jobs, I know you frequent the MacRumors message boards with all your copious free time. So release the Newton X already!

-Chilton
 
This humorless, former TechTV program host has no clue. Last week reports stated that Tablet PCs were a dismal failure so far, mostly due to MS's poor OS for the computer and disatisfaction from the various manufactuers. Dvorak believes Apple will soon switch to Intel as well. He predicted that the original iMac would be a failure, ya da, ya da, ya da. His crystal ball is cracked. He throws out a lot of predicitions, but even so he's rarely correct.
 
Originally posted by electric
I dont need a new Newton, my 2100 is working great, a tad bit over sized but extreamly reliable, infact I just used mine this morning for an alarm clock.

I used the alarm clock and took a fax too. I love those Newtons, just wish I could get a new updated version. I don't think we will ever see one though. I think it's probable that someday a small ipod like device will be able to run the full Apple OS, but nothing until then.
 
My second dream...

iPod is by now the music player, but it has to lead the main iApps, what about a color display iPod, where you can play your music, take a look at your photo collection or see one of your *.mov *.mp4 files... Take that with you... I'm sure it will happen, then I will ask Steve one for free :D ... It was my dream from yesterday. I'm looking forward to the loved 20 years...;)
 
Ready to converge

There's no point to a standalone Newton II today, and Apple knows it.

If anything, we'll see a bluetooth iPod running a low-power IBM G3 system-on-a-chip with triband phone capabilities, an oled screen with InkWell, and a small version of Mac OS X, fully iSync enabled. $799.

This will be great because then I can use XCode to develop apps for this device. I can probably use it as my home directory too.
 
stop the insanity! when will this rumor die? why on earth would apple make a pda when there's no money in it!?... see you all here in six months, when the rumor resurfaces.
 
Originally posted by iPC
It's on the market already...

http://www.tapwave.com/index.asp

Once again, Apple will not be first. Hopefully, as before, they will be best (iPod is a great example).

Yes, add a 20-40Gig hardrive, OS X lite, and maybe 3G and/or WiFi ( I saw the mention of something wireless but not the spec it supported ) and I think you have something there!
 
How about a smartphone with an iPod in it! I know it would be about as big as the cell phone Zach used on SAved by the Bell, but I would still buy one.
 
Originally posted by JohnStrass
Actually, the 2100 was the last version. I bought it 1 week after the opening of the Apple store on -line, with Jobs saying "oh, thats so cool, I have to buy two". Then he killed it 2 months later.

oops, didn't notice that you already posted that.

aethier
 
Sony prototype

Have you seen the study from Sony just released last week ? They even mentioned iPod as the device they want to position against. Unlike iPod, it is also SmartPhone/PDA and VideoPlayer and it plans to use Optical removable drive insted of harddrive.
If they stick to planned feature set and deliver this next year, Apple have to react, or there will be no market for iPod.
 
Re: Sony prototype

Originally posted by brainless
If they stick to planned feature set and deliver this next year, Apple have to react, or there will be no market for iPod.

Well, that's not true. There are plenty of people out there who will prefer to stick to a dedicated music device. I think Steve was right on when he said convergence devices are not the way to go. More than likely, the only thing that would really take down the iPod is a iPaq-sized device running Windows XP and 30 hour battery that comes in at under $500, and then only on the Windows side.

That's kinda like saying that the Segway is going to kill car sales.
 
Originally posted by arn
Because complaints don't decide where stories go. :)

arn
Sorry, let me rephrase. Do you have the same concerns about this writer as some other people on the forum have, and does that play a role in story location and with this just being a blurb with nothing (from what I can see) to back it up, does this play a role in the story location on MacRumors?
 
Originally posted by ejb190
I realize Apple probably won't enter the PDA market anytime soon. But let's play "what if?"

What if Apple did decde to get back into the PDA market? Apple has a tradition of re-inventing how a particular product functions, is perceived, and even how it functions. If instance, the iMac changed the notion of an entry level computer being boring and unfunctional. iLife brought "professional" tasks like video editing to a point where anyone could do it. And the iPod is, well, it's the iPod.

So how can the PDA be reinvented? What function or task is missing from the current crop of devices? What would make a PDA the next "must have" device?

Good point. I love buying new toys but, personally, I just can't justify the expense of a PDA. My cell phone gives me the most useful features. However, if Apple released a PDA, I'm sure it would woo the competition.

Squire
 
Re: Sony prototype

Originally posted by brainless
Unlike iPod, it is also SmartPhone/PDA and VideoPlayer and it plans to use Optical removable drive insted of harddrive.

I've never seen an integrated smartphone that's not a crappy phone AND a crappy PDA. The Palm phones? Yeesh, why bother? That's what Bluetooth is for. And the N-Gage? Let's not even go there.

I have no significant use for a portable video player, especially if it's adding bulk and dubious utility to my iPod and/or cell phone.

Oh, and optical removable drive? Why in the name of all that's holy would I ever go back to using a player with removable media? The only reason to buy a player with removable media these days is if you can't afford a player that doesn't suck.

I'm not saying the iPod can't be improved, but Apple's done a great job by not adding whiz-bang flavor of the month features just to have more bullet-points on the box. The development of the iPod is an interesting study in how you can be innovative and conservative at the same time.

Oh, and on the main point, just the fact that it comes from Dvorak is indeed a huge strike against its veracity. Dvorak was the man among PC pundits in the late 80s, early 90s, but he should've been put out to pasture around 1996. These days he banks on name recognition and that's it. He's just not as sharp as he used to be.
 
Apple could partner with Palm and Handspring which have expressed interest in some Apple technology. So I could actually see a Palm/Handspring rebadged and tweaked for Apple and released as an Apple product at about same prices as current PDA's on the market.
 
Originally posted by Jerry Spoon
Sorry, let me rephrase. Do you have the same concerns about this writer as some other people on the forum have, and does that play a role in story location and with this just being a blurb with nothing (from what I can see) to back it up, does this play a role in the story location on MacRumors?

I think people take the page1/page2 distinction a bit too literally.

It's a pretty loose split...

I agree the author's credibility in this particular article is pretty poor... and that's reflected in the MacRumors story which states that this may simply be speculation. That being said, I do believe, based on the previously referenced old rumors that Apple very likely does have a tablet project in the works.... whether it will ever be released or not is debatable.

arn
 
I don't see Apple getting into this, unless they purchase PalmOne (who just purchased Handspring and the Treo 600)

it took a lot of $$$ to make the Treo 600 --- not even Palm could get it right with the Tungsten ---- I would imagine that Apple is using most of their money on making a G5 PowerBook and G6 Desktop - not a smartphone

and there's no point in just making a PDA anymore --- smartphones are mos def the future
 
Originally posted by JohnStrass
Actually, the 2100 was the last version. I bought it 1 week after the opening of the Apple store on -line, with Jobs saying "oh, thats so cool, I have to buy two". Then he killed it 2 months later.

Anyhow, it still gives me smile when I dust it off, but its dead now. It was ideal as a laptop replacement, EXTREMELY lightweight, great add-on keyborard.

I really should give it away so some fanatic who would give it a loving home...

You could sell it.

There's huge Newton community thats developing os X software and hardware solutions for the Newton.

go to http://www.newtontalk.net
 
Originally posted by ejb190
I realize Apple probably won't enter the PDA market anytime soon. But let's play "what if?"

While, if they used the guts of the Powerbook..
6-8 inch wide (high color) screen, 667MHz, upto 512MB ram, 20 or 40GB iPod drive, audio in/out, two USB ports, 1 firewire port, one 10/100 ethernet, PB mini-DVI video port & S-Video, and Panther installed. Starting price $799.

To reduce size and weight I have left out the keyboard, mouse pad, CD-Rom drive, PC Card slot. And the battery wouldn't have to be as bulky as the PBs.

The ports could be offloaded to a docking bay, and replaced with WiFi technology.

Since most people would want a CD-RW drive for loading software and for backup, you'd need to give this as part of the package.

We can dream!
 
Re: Re: Dvorak's postualtions

Originally posted by PGant
Unsubstantiated claims and idle speculation amounts to little more than lazy reporting or tripe-like filler to satisfy an editor requested word-count for a column.

Sorry, but this guy has zero credibility in my books. When I see his columns, in don't even stop to read the headline before I turn the page.
But he's Devorak...he invented the keyboard! He must be all knowing!! :D
 
iPod keyboard

The contact and calendar features of the iPod are great, but they could be greatly improved.

I would love to have a virtual keyboard on the iPod. You could use the scroll wheel to select letters.

It is a crude way to input text, but would give you the ability to add contact, calendar events, and playlist on the fly.

It seems to me that this could be added with just a firmware update.
 
Originally posted by arn
I think people take the page1/page2 distinction a bit too literally.

It's a pretty loose split...

I agree the author's credibility in this particular article is pretty poor... and that's reflected in the MacRumors story which states that this may simply be speculation. That being said, I do believe, based on the previously referenced old rumors that Apple very likely does have a tablet project in the works.... whether it will ever be released or not is debatable.

arn

Also there's something to be said for posting a juicy rumor right smack dab on the front of the site. It gets people stired up with what if's which is always fun. :) I really enjoy this site. Maybe a bit too much. I swear one of these days someone is going to do an audit of this office and find out a high % of the traffic is going to macrumors.com :eek:

As for those complaining about where the post is located. Look at the fine print guys.
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Its a rumor site. No one is expecting hard facts here. At least I'm not.

Now..........
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God I can't get enough of these emoticons. :)
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