Apple Permanently Bans 'Infowars' App From the App Store

[Jsameds]

You posted a curated list of tweets that had killallfillintheblanks. As if that isn't seen by others. You posted selective out of context inflammatory tweets from Jeong, that you heard were inflammatory. None of that bolstered your case. None of that matches the level of crap from Jones that led to his infamy. Sorry, but NOT sorry.
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No. As said, it was just telling.

So you agree with me but disagree with my choice of content?

You asked me to find something offensive and I gave it to you and now you’re whining about irrelevant agenda.

Jesus Christ, grow up for gods sake.

 

[mikethemartian]

Mostly nutracudicals, unapproved by the FDA like BrainForce. Also, survival gear that can be had at amazon for a lot less. His podcats and live events are literally a mixture of conspiracies, then back to buying his supplements. Advertisers won't touch him, so he exclusively sells his own products.

I’m willing to bet he claims that the FDA is suppressing him.

 

[KGB7]

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It's pretty common to make big decisions on feelings.

Common to whom?
Removing Jones app was a big decision. So was the decision based on feelings?

 

[mudslag]

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Common to whom?

Common to those that make big decisions based on what feels right to do. Derp

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Removing Jones app was a big decision. So was the decision based on feelings?

If they "felt" he broke their TOS, then I guess you could say yes. Why dont you tweet them your question?

 

[JayMysterio]

So you agree with me but disagree with my choice of content?

You asked me to find something offensive and I gave it to you and now you’re whining about irrelevant agenda.

Jesus Christ, grow up for gods sake.

No. That was NOT what I asked you, but I'm pretty sure you knew that. You found what you wanted to find to try & bolster your own claims.

 

[mikethemartian]

1. That's a lie and misrepresentation of the facts, which a cursory google search will show.
2. If it were true, no it doesn't.
3. Nice 'what-aboutism'.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're commenting from ignorance, as opposed to operating in bad faith.
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Another straw-man distortion, coincidentally in your defence of an authoritarian move. You're making it difficult to believe you're not disingenuously pushing an agenda.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDona...nald-trump-nbc-news-network-licenses-revoked/

 

[Jsameds]

No. That was NOT what I asked you, but I'm pretty sure you knew that. You found what you wanted to find to try & bolster your own claims.

Lies.

No it’s not opinion, it’s a demonstrable fact.

There is “hate speech” and threats of violence on all the aformentioned platforms that aren’t removed.

Apple host Twitter app. Twitter hosts hate speech. App remains.

Apple host Facebook app. Facebook hosts hate speech. App remains.

Apple host podcasts. Podcasts that contain hate speech. Podcasts remain.

Apple host YouTube app. YouTube videos and comments contain hate speech. App remains.

Apple host AJ app. AJ app contains hate speech. App is banned.

Apple host AJ podcasts. AJ podcasts contain hate speech. Podcasts are pulled.

Fact. Not opinion.

All of them break the same rules that AJ app was banned, yet they remain.

Twitter hosts hate speech, but only bans some accounts.

YouTube hosts hate speech videos, but only bans certain channels.

Youtube comments host hate speech, but doesn’t moderate them.


These are facts. The rules are unevenly applied.

I’m not going to repeat this again, I’ve explained it many times and demonstrated that it is fact.

You’ll just have to play ignorant if y

You haven't shown any such things occurring, instead you're just saying it.

I have showed it, multiple times in previous comments. Quotes and screenshots.

Search for **** trump supporters.

Search for porn.

Search for violence incitement.

Search for racist content

Search for any “offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste" materia on any of the the social media’s or Youtube and you will find it. It’s there whether you deny that it is or not.

Yet Apple still hosts those Apps

Sorry but when asked for sourcing, telling someone else to search for your sourcing doesn't fly.

 

[KGB7]

Common to those that make big decisions based on what feels right to do. Derp


If they "felt" he broke their TOS, then I guess you could say yes. Why dont you tweet them your question?

That’s a scary world to live in if we ignore logic and make all decisions on feelings. And I’m not talking about getting a puppy or a milkshake.

Shooting up that school was based on feelings. What’s next, nuclear winter because some one got their feelings hurt?
We can’t have people in charge of anything important, when it comes to making important decisions based on feelings. Imagine your family Doctor treats you based on his/her feelings. Or innocent people being put to jail, just because we decided to throw entire legal system out of the window and started to use our feelings.

 

[Jimmy Bubbles]

Definitely glad I downloaded the new app before this happened.
Regardless of your opinions, the Tech-left don’t be seem to be as tolerant and accepting as they preach.
We ALL have the right to freedom of speech in the USA.

 

[JayMysterio]

Lies.

In all that I still missed the part where I asked you to show me something you found offensive on Twitter.

I asked you to prove your claims that rules were being applied unevenly.

Your proof entailed repeatedly saying that fill in the blank hosts offensive things.

That wasn't proof. That was just you repeating yourself over & over again as if that would somehow make it so, which someone else seems to find offensive. But maybe that's only if I did it.

That wasn't me asking you to find offensive things. I'm sure you could have done that just typing the letter a in the search field. See what I did there? No? Too meta.

That was an impressive intentional misunderstanding of what I wrote though.

Again.

 

[mikethemartian]

Hahah, and your source is The NY Times, lol, are you serious? Please wake up. People are so brainwashed still.

You seem to be.

 

[Jsameds]

In all that I still missed the part where I asked you to show me something you found offensive on Twitter.

I asked you to prove your claims that rules were being applied unevenly.

Your proof entailed repeatedly saying that fill in the blank hosts offensive things.

That wasn't proof. That was just you repeating yourself over & over again as if that would somehow make it so, which someone else seems to find offensive. But maybe that's only if I did it.

That wasn't me asking you to find offensive things. I'm sure you could have done that just typing the letter a in the search field. See what I did there? No? Too meta.

That was an impressive intentional misunderstanding of what I wrote though.

Again.

It’s all there in those quotes bud. Doesn’t matter, I still provided it as evidence to my statement.

So what is your problem with the evidence now? Wrong font or something?

Look it’s very simple.

AJ app was banned for hosting offensive content.

Twitter also hosts offensive content but isn’t banned.

Therefore the rules aren’t applied evenly. Not a difficult concept but you are really struggling today.

What’s your problem with this?

 

[mudslag]

No it’s not opinion, it’s a demonstrable fact.

There is “hate speech” and threats of violence on all the aformentioned platforms that aren’t removed.

Apple host Twitter app. Twitter hosts hate speech. App remains.

Apple host Facebook app. Facebook hosts hate speech. App remains.

Apple host podcasts. Podcasts that contain hate speech. Podcasts remain.

Apple host YouTube app. YouTube videos and comments contain hate speech. App remains.

Apple host AJ app. AJ app contains hate speech. App is banned.

Apple host AJ podcasts. AJ podcasts contain hate speech. Podcasts are pulled.

Fact. Not opinion.

All of them break the same rules that AJ app was banned, yet they remain.

Twitter hosts hate speech, but only bans some accounts.

YouTube hosts hate speech videos, but only bans certain channels.

Youtube comments host hate speech, but doesn’t moderate them.


These are facts. The rules are unevenly applied.

I’m not going to repeat this again, I’ve explained it many times and demonstrated that it is fact.

You’ll just have to play ignorant if you can’t accept it.

Context is key

Twitter isn't the one posting the hate speech
Facebook isn't the one posting the hate speech
Youtube isn't the one posting the hate speech

AJ is the one posting the content directly related to his app

As for the podcasts, as you pointed out some do get banned. In that case you have to look at each one on a case by case basis. Which is why context is key. Does someone say "I hate blacks and jews" or do they say "go out and kill all kill all blacks and jews"? Cause while both can be viewed as hate speech one incites violence against others.

As you point out, these companies do ban others from time to time. It should be noted that they are not the gov, they have no duty to "be fair across the board", they can do as they wish. We the users, choose to use their services. It's a choice and by accepting to use them, we agree to their terms, not what we think their terms should be. So if you think that they are being unfair in how they dish out punishment, too bad. You have the choice to not use their services at all.

 

[GermanSuplex]

It’s all there in those quotes bud. Doesn’t matter, I still provided it as evidence to my statement.

So what is your problem with the evidence now? Wrong font or something?

Look it’s very simple.

AJ app was banned for hosting offensive content.

Twitter also hosts offensive content but isn’t banned.

Therefore the rules aren’t applied evenly. Not a difficult concept but you are really struggling today.

What’s your problem with this?

Jones is a content provider, not simply an app that hosts user-generated content. If you went the route you're going, there would be no other browsers like Chrome, etc.

 

[mikethemartian]

Besides bashing the NYT and calling people brainwashed, can you actually dispute what was reported?
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So you really can't dispute anything, you're just bashing the same sources Trump does. But others are the ones who are brainwashed?

You can’t expect someone who gets their news from high quality sources like the National Enquirer and Weekly World News to accept the Washington Post and New York Times as credible sources.

 

[KGB7]

You might want to redirect that complaint elsewhere, like a guy you're supporting. He even admits he's repeating himself, but I guess for you that's alright.

He’s repeating him self, because no one has the balls to give him an honest and direct answer. And they are afraid to admit as an adult that he is right.
This why the discussion has grown to 26 pages, too many feelings are involved and too many people are stubborn do to their feelings and their personal views, personal views that are driven by their personal feelings.

This is why our country is a cluster efing mess. Too many snow flakes with their feelings, continue to ruin this country.

 

[Jsameds]

Context is key

Twitter isn't the one posting the hate speech
Facebook isn't the one posting the hate speech
Youtube isn't the one posting the hate speech

AJ is the one posting the content directly related to his app

As for the podcasts, as you pointed out some do get banned. In that case you have to look at each one on a case by case basis. Which is why context is key. Does someone say "I hate blacks and jews" or do they say "go out and kill all kill all blacks and jews"? Cause while both can be viewed as hate speech one incites violence against others.

As you point out, these companies do ban others from time to time. It should be noted that they are not the gov, they have no duty to "be fair across the board", they can do as they wish. We the users, choose to use their services. It's a choice and by accepting to use them, we agree to their terms, not what we think their terms should be. So if you think that they are being unfair in how they dish out punishment, too bad. You have the choice to not use their services at all.

Nowhere does it say that it’s dependent on the author, only that the app contains the content.

Much like when 500px was pulled for allowing access to nudity.

Twitter also allows access to nudity in the same manner.

 

[mudslag]

That’s a scary world to live in if we ignore logic and make all decisions on feelings. And I’m not talking about getting a puppy or a milkshake.

Shooting up that school was based on feelings. What’s next, nuclear winter because some one got their feelings hurt?
We can’t have people in charge of anything important, when it comes to making important decisions based on feelings. Imagine your family Doctor treats you based on his/her feelings. Or innocent people being put to jail, just because we decided to throw entire legal system out of the window and started to use our feelings.

Logic is subjective, what's logical for one is not the same for another. Feelings play a part in many aspects of our life, decisions are not different.

Trump runs his mouth all every single day because of feelings. He goes on twitter tirades because he gets butthurt, hence his feelings are hurt. And yes people have a valid fear of Trump doing something stupid over his lack of control of his feelings.

 

[JayMysterio]

It’s all there in those quotes bud. Doesn’t matter, I still provided it as evidence to my statement.

So what is your problem with the evidence now? Wrong font or something?

That repeating your opinion isn't evidence? It wouldn't matter the font or size of it. Still not evidence.

What is evidence, actual sourcing backing a claim.

For example, I say Twitter has had history of problems of people using the platform for harassment & promoting racism. Even when Twitter attempts to crack down, certain person find other ways to circumvent Twitter's efforts.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/20/8630403/twitter-sponsored-hate-tweets

Twitter has been working to reduce the amount of harassment and abuse that takes place in its community, but there are still some glaring cracks in its armor. The latest tactic from hateful trolls uses a platform you might think Twitter would have pretty strict control of: its sponsored tweets.

Earlier this month, Andrew Auernheimer, one of the internet's most malicious trolls, was able to use Twitter's sponsored tweet service to target "women and minorities" with white supremacist messages. Naturally there was some confusion and outrage over this promoted content:

@dickc @twitter @safety @support Why are you letting weev pay for racist ads on your site? pic.twitter.com/i4xstLJUYp

— Molon Partay® (@molon_labia) May 4, 2015


And just today, Twitter let more hateful sponsored tweets slip through to users. Caitlin Roper, a feminist activist who has been the subject of targeted harassment, was impersonated by someone on Twitter. First reported by The Guardian, the impersonator sponsored a tweet using Roper's face and name. The tweet urged trans people to commit suicide.

See? I make a claim. I provide a source you can observe & refute if you wish. Not out of context, but laid out for you agree or disagree with. The sourcing provides evidence that you can research if you wish.

It's not me repeating my opinion in different ways as if that is evidence unto itself.

 

[Jsameds]

He’s repeating him self, because no one has the balls to give him an honest and direct answer. And they are afraid to admit as an adult that he is right.
This why the discussion has grown to 26 pages, too many feelings are involved and too many people are stubborn do to their feelings and their personal views, personal views that are driven by their personal feelings.

This is why our country is a cluster efing mess. Too many snow flakes with their feelings, continue to ruin this country.

They could just say “yeah, Apple are being a bit hypocritical here” but no.

They just can’t muster it.

And all because they disagree with the person being banned.

Will be a different story when this deplatforming happens to someone on their side.

 

[m0sher]

I think what’s more scary is that I’m finding more Trump supporters in this thread who are for this guy, kind of says a lot about their base.

 

[GermanSuplex]

He’s repeating him self, because no one has the balls to give him an honest and direct answer. And they are afraid to admit as an adult that he is right.

This type of debate came up earlier in the thread... you yourself are admitting that its not an answer you're looking for, but an agreement. You're offering up a "heads up, I win, tails down, you lose" ultimatum. There is a disagreement and a debate about it. Anyone can say "Why are you afraid to admit (insert poster here) is right?"

Because we disagree, maybe?

 

[Jsameds]

That repeating your opinion isn't evidence? It wouldn't matter the font or size of it. Still not evidence.

What is evidence, actual sourcing backing a claim.

For example, I say Twitter has had history of problems of people using the platform for harassment & promoting racism. Even when Twitter attempts to crack down, certain person find other ways to circumvent Twitter's efforts.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/20/8630403/twitter-sponsored-hate-tweets



See? I make a claim. I provide a source you can observe & refute if you wish. Not out of context, but laid out for you agree or disagree with. The sourcing provides evidence that you can research if you wish.

It's not me repeating my opinion in different ways as if that is evidence unto itself.

Jesus effing Christ alive.


AJ app hosts offensive content.

Twitter app hosts offensive content (sources already provided)

Hosting offensive content is against Apple’s App Store rules (sources already provided)

AJ app is banned.
Twitter app isn’t banned.

Therefore, the rules aren’t being applied evenly.

 

[NIKKG]

Apple is run by free speech hating fascist.

 

[Jsameds]

I think what’s more scary is that I’m finding more Trump supporters in this thread who are for this guy, kind of says a lot about their base.

I’m against Alex Jones but I am also against mass deplatforming of someone in this manner.