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Apple Planning 10.5" iPad Pro in 2017, 'Revolutionary' OLED iPad as Soon as 2018
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I get tired of hearing how something wasn't profitable for Apple all the time!
Boo F'in Hoo! You don't have access to the numbers, so you don't know any better than I do. They were getting over a thousand bucks more on the same spec as a Windows laptop, if that's not profitable, then management is to blame.
This reminds me of genetically modified crops, you narrow your way down to one productive strain because it's so profitable, and then some bug. it has no defense for, comes along and wipes it out.
They've passed up $50K of my business since 2012 because they're a toy company now.
iDevices are not substitutes for computers (no matter how many cute commercials they run, it's not the case). I'll be happy to write that epitaph on Apple's tombstone.
Why people insist they can't sell more than one thing, and we all have to accept that, is short-sighted and irrational.
Wait until you see the price tag. The 2 years is to start saving now.
Actually their commercials aren't cute anymore. It's the usual thing over and over (white background, soothing voice, some inspirational words).
Now, the google free up memory commercial (the one with Queen's Don't stop me now song) is a great commercial. Frustrating and funny at the same time.
You're right, but they're cuter than they are clever.
Soooo, my iPad Pro [9.7"] will now be relegated to "low end" status,
while the new iPad Pro will gain an inch? Eh, who cares ....
I gave zero interest in 10.5" & 12.9" tablets, and my current one's just fine.
However, I absolutely adore the iPad Mini as a "runabout tablet".
I'd immediately get an updated one, but this guy says they're, most unfortunately, phasing them out.
while the new iPad Pro will gain an inch? Eh, who cares ....
I gave zero interest in 10.5" & 12.9" tablets, and my current one's just fine.
However, I absolutely adore the iPad Mini as a "runabout tablet".
I'd immediately get an updated one, but this guy says they're, most unfortunately, phasing them out.
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The trouble is the iPhone +caters for completely different market compared to iPad mini. The price point is also double for iPhone compared to mini. Mini can be bought as wifi only whilst iPhone not.
iPhone + will have all kinda gizmos, eg dual cameras, etc etc, iPad will not.
Sorry, when I read "Revolutionary OLED iPad" I get a little cynical and picture Tim up their saying something mindless like "It's the best iPad since iPad!!!!" *cue the cheerleaders*
Because, we truly need another form factor. Just another way to gouge out another pound of flesh from the masses.
I also wonder if they aren't saying internally that they can kill of the iPad mini because the iPhad *ahem* iPhone Plus is only marginally smaller.
Because, we truly need another form factor. Just another way to gouge out another pound of flesh from the masses.
I also wonder if they aren't saying internally that they can kill of the iPad mini because the iPhad *ahem* iPhone Plus is only marginally smaller.
(1) He didn't say that - commenters here are assuming that because it's not mentioned in an analysts report.
(2) I wouldn't bet the farm on Kuo - he's good, but not farm betting good.
(3) The mini 4 was an amazing update - why not consider the mini 4?
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Hope I'm missing out on the sarcasm tag. The Plus is WAY smaller than Mini. The mini and air are closer in size than the mini and plus.
You know, I don't really consider myself a "pro." I use my computers for my consulting business, for my teaching (online) and of course email and all the basic tasks most people do on a computer. And the thing is, even for my relatively modest needs, an iPad is insufficient. Occasionally I do need to have several word docs open at once. I can't even do that on an iPad. I can't edit raw photos easily. For the minimal Photoshop I need to do, well, it's pretty painful on an iPad.
I wish Cook and company would get over this crazy need to call a device like the iPad Pro a "Pro" when you can't do so many simple things on it. At best it's deluded, at worst it's disingenuous. In either case, using the term "Pro" seems as though it's intended to raise profit margins. Apple has always been on the arrogant side. But it's crossing the line from arrogant to just plain out of touch with reality...
I wish Cook and company would get over this crazy need to call a device like the iPad Pro a "Pro" when you can't do so many simple things on it. At best it's deluded, at worst it's disingenuous. In either case, using the term "Pro" seems as though it's intended to raise profit margins. Apple has always been on the arrogant side. But it's crossing the line from arrogant to just plain out of touch with reality...
I wish people would stop placing so much emphasis on the word "Pro". It's a marketing term and product identifier, not a promise.
I have an iPad Mini 4. In fact, I'm using it right now! lol
What I meant before was that I'd like to see it updated.
Say, to the power of the current iPad Pro: A9X, 4 speakers, TruTone, etc.
Absoposilutely! I makes me insane when all these people say
that the iPad Mini is superfluous because of the iPhone Pluses!
They're nowhere near "the same size" and the iPad Mini is
my overwhelming favorite of all the iPad's form factors.
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I get what you're saying, and I appreciate that it doesn't bother you. But to me, it as a marketing term it fails completely. There is nothing 'pro' about it.... It was a term tacked on to a product to justify charging more. But, like I said, I can appreciate that it doesn't bug you in the same way.
This is just getting ridiculous. Let's just go back to iPad. One version, one price, one vision.
I get what you're saying, and I appreciate that it doesn't bother you. But to me, it as a marketing term it fails completely. There is nothing 'pro' about it.... It was a term tacked on to a product to justify charging more. But, like I said, I can appreciate that it doesn't bug you in the same way.
Looking at the pros and cons of the iPad Pro, the use of the term Pro would be a con to you?
So you're saying a Core i5 Macbook Pro from 2013 wasn't able to run Zbrush or Maya? It's not really a matter of the hardware anymore, but whether or not the software developer has an economic incentive to create an iOS version. You're also forgetting that the iPad Pro has 4 GB of RAM and a GPU that compares favorably in performance to an AMD Radeon R9 M370X (2015 Macbook Pro).
http://barefeats.com/ipadpro2.html
I wanted to make it VERY CLEAR, I AGREE with everything you just said. Damn fine post.
I only wish Apple hadn't waited so long to offer a Mini with a decent display. I was ready in fall 2013 to walk into an Apple store and slap $500 into someone's hand for a Retina Mini. Then Apple gimped the color gamut so I saved $300 and got a Nexus 7. It was yet another of their too clever by half marketing schemes in which they string out updates over several years instead of just giving the Mini a screen of comparable quality to the 9.7" iPad.
Having used the Nexus 7 for years now, I'm not sure I'll ever go back to an iPad. Android is very, very good and I can actually use the file system to manage files like the tablet is a computer. Thus I can mirror entire directories of articles on my tablet without messing around with the opaque cloud file system used on Apple's toys. If Apple offered this feature on iOS I would RUN to an Apple Store and throw money at them for such a tablet. And if they used OS X's file browser in iOS it would absolutely dominate anything on Android. Imagine the synchronization possibilities!
For phones I still love iOS, but I think a tablet GUI should be closer to a computer. The iPad is so powerful now and with such a beautiful display it makes no sense to gimp the OS like Apple does.
Key word being Yet. In 1984, when the first Mac was released, people said the same thing back then - The Mac would never replace the Apple II / Lisa or command line. As we know the rest is history.
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When the first Mac came out in 1984, it was the beginning of the Apple II / Lisa (or command line). Took some time, but it happened. So there is precedent
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Not necessarily. If you take the 12.9" iPP resolution of 2732 x 2048 and squeeze it into a display which has 326 dpi resolution, guess what screen size you get - 10.5"
So Apple can theoretically have the following iPad line up:
iPad mini - 326 dpi screen
iPad Air 2 (3?) - 264 dpi screen
iPad Pro 10.5 - 326 dpi screen
iPad Pro 12.9 - 264 dpi screen.
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good point.
I don't think you'll ever see an A9X, or any X, in something the size of the mini.
Sorry, I really don't care much for pentile displays. Yeah color accuracy is actually very good on last gens (S6,S7), but I still don't enjoy working with pentiles and the resolution issue remains
Except I didn't say it was the same.
Different people will have different requirements.
I used to have a non retina 15" MBP - when it came to replacing it, I realised I could have the same real estate on a retina 13" as I had on the non retina 15", and a smaller, lighter laptop to boot.
I don't really care how big a screen is - the important thing to me is how much stuff can fit on the screen, and a resolution I am comfortable with.
My point is that the market for 17" laptops was already small before screens got as high res as they are now. And now that they are much higher res, some people who may have preferred a 17" laptop in the past for the real estate would now be fine with a 15".
You might not be in that group, but its still a perfectly valid view to have. And assuming some people share that view, then the already small market for 17" laptops will now be smaller than it was already.
Heh. (typing this to you on my early 2008 17" MBP running the latest Sierra beta). Yes, I'm one of THOSE people that felt a little betrayed when Apple dropped the 17" model. I keep dreaming that they'll bring it back with an 8k screen *drool*.
THAT would be amazing to use for all kinds of work (including editing of 4k & 4k+ videos). Maybe someday....we'll see if I can keep this one going until that day.