Apple Planning March 2016 Event to Unveil Next-Generation Apple Watch, iPhone 6c Possible Too

[warrior2000]

If it's round, you'll hear all the Apple fanboys saying how much nicer it looks. Months after them saying that the square Apple Watch is the best design ever.

Still waiting for that iPhone with physical keyboard I see.

So when do you think Apple will make a round iPhone? Round iPad? Round MacBook?

Blows my mind why people can't see the reason why the Watch does not use a round screen. The only people who want round screens are old foogies who remember the days of wearing a round watch. The people with vision and those who never wore watches have no problem with a rectangle screen.

 

[syphern]

No SpO2, no blood pressure = no buy.

lol so how you gonna check your bp without a cuff?

 

[niun]

Wait... No Pencil support!?

Or will that be the Apple Watch Pro?

 

[thisisnotmyname]

I was just thinking the other day how much nicer it would be if I could toast my bread using my iDevice, even at a price of that connectivity of 3-5 times more than the same toaster unconnected. Pushing down that handle is such a pain and sooooo outdated.

and monitoring of the browness without having to keep peeking down the slot or popping it up just to push it back down. and the ability to toast remotely while you are on vacation or otherwise away from home. and all the toast analytics it would collect and be able to chart such as browness by day of week or aggregate toast consumption for the year.

someone start a kickstarter.

 

[geoff5093]

Still waiting for that iPhone with physical keyboard I see.

So when do you think Apple will make a round iPhone? Round iPad? Round MacBook?

Blows my mind why people can't see the reason why the Watch does not use a round screen. The only people who want round screens are old foogies who remember the days of wearing a round watch. The people with vision and those who never wore watches have no problem with a rectangle screen.

Watches have always been predominately round.

Phones and laptops have always been predominately rectangle.

Do you really not see the difference between a phone and watch? A square on your wrist looks so out of place.

 

[alfonsog]

Well, I've been enjoying my Apple Watch 1 since April and I'll enjoy my Apple Watch 2 whenever it comes out. If you always wait for the next version you'll never enjoy anything... and critics or those that don't like the watch keep in mind it's a watch before anything else; mine replaced a watch I used to wear anyway... except now I have fitness tracking and can sketch cute notes to my friends and it sure gets me a lot more attention than my former watch that only told the time and cost as much as my Mac Pro setup.

 

[maxsix]

I have loads of money sitting around, just waiting for the ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ 2 to arrive! /s

Make no mistake, in CA especially, there's a few million people with huge stacks of expendable cash...

But if you think they care about AW, think again.

Having seen that design failure called a battery for iPhone 6S, Apple has now officially broadcast to the world that they suck.

 

[warrior2000]

Watches have always been predominately round.

Phones and laptops have always been predominately rectangle.

Do you really not see the difference between a phone and watch? A square on your wrist looks so out of place.

Phones always had physical keyboards and number keys.......

Do you not know why Watches of yesteryear were round?

Most people of the iPhone generation have never wore a watch and could not give a damn if its round or not. Like I said only old foggies who wore round watches when they were young care.

A rectangle does not look out of place on a wrist. Only if you are stuck in the past. The Watch is a computing device, and round screens for computing devices are idiotic.

 

[Bklass]

I highly, highly double the Apple Watch will get its own GPS. GPS sucks power like crazy and there is little need when most carry their iPhone with them even when working out. There are only a small number of runners that don't carry their phone while they run.

I disagree. I'm with UnionVGF on this one. No GPS no buy. There are MANY runners out there who dislike having extra bulk while running, particularly people who do any sort of long(er) distance running, as in 10k+. Minimal weight = faster times, not to mention arm bands and the like can cause chafing and restrict blood flow. If Apples wants to emphasize the fitness components of this device, they have to (eventually, maybe not 2nd Gen) put a dedicated GPS chip in it. Making the Apple Watch autonomous is a must.

 

[warrior2000]

I disagree. I'm with UnionVGF on this one. No GPS no buy. There are MANY runners out there who dislike having extra bulk while running, particularly people who do any sort of long(er) distance running, as in 10k+. Minimal weight = faster times, not to mention arm bands and the like can cause chafing and restrict blood flow. If Apples wants to emphasize the fitness components of this device, they have to (eventually, maybe not 2nd Gen) put a dedicated GPS chip in it. Making the Apple Watch autonomous is a must.

Why the hell would you need GPS on a run?
Are you running in a wilderness?
The Watch can track your distance just fine without GPS.

I'd say less than .05% of the population cares about GPS on a smartwatch. Apple does not chase niche markets.

 

[PlainviewX]

Why the hell would you need GPS on a run?
Are you running in a wilderness?
The Watch can track your distance just fine without GPS.

I'd say less than .05% of the population cares about GPS on a smartwatch. Apple does not chase niche markets.

Where did you come up with the .05% of the population cares about a GPS on a smartwatch? I'm going to guess, nowhere. The fact that there are huge segments of people who buy GPS watches for sports and fitness proves you're guess of people that care about it is nonexistent is patently false.

Why would people want a GPS in a watch?

Sprinting
Hiking
Trail Running
Cycling
Mountain Biking
Golf GPS

Counting steps is not the same thing as using a GPS, not even close. With a GPS, speed can be calculated as well and thus calculate calories expended and other fitness related metrics.

 

[warrior2000]

Where did you come up with the .05% of the population cares about a GPS on a smartwatch? I'm going to guess, nowhere. The fact that there are huge segments of people who buy GPS watches for sports and fitness proves you're guess of people that care about it is nonexistent is patently false.

Why would people want a GPS in a watch?

Sprinting
Hiking
Trail Running
Cycling
Mountain Biking
Golf GPS

Counting steps is not the same thing as using a GPS, not even close. With a GPS, speed can be calculated as well and thus calculate calories expended and other fitness related metrics.

How many GPS watches are sold a year? Probably one or two million. The world population is in the billions. Like I said very few people want GPS in a watch. GPS Watches are niche devices.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

I disagree. I'm with UnionVGF on this one. No GPS no buy. There are MANY runners out there who dislike having extra bulk while running, particularly people who do any sort of long(er) distance running, as in 10k+. Minimal weight = faster times, not to mention arm bands and the like can cause chafing and restrict blood flow. If Apples wants to emphasize the fitness components of this device, they have to (eventually, maybe not 2nd Gen) put a dedicated GPS chip in it. Making the Apple Watch autonomous is a must.

Then don't buy it. I never said you or he would. I said that Apple isn't adding GPS to the next one.

 

[Bklass]

How many GPS watches are sold a year? Probably one or two million. The world population is in the billions. Like I said very few people want GPS in a watch. GPS Watches are niche devices.

Doesn't mean Apple isn't interested in targeting/cornering that market. Yes, they care about profit margins and mass appeal, but many would argue that the iPad Pro is for a "niche market." For the longest time, the Apple TV was considered their "hobby" device.

Again, you're pulling numbers out of your ass. Maybe do a simple Google search next time. In 2011 (FOUR YEARS ago!), Garmin sold 16 million GPS units. Granted, this includes all types of navigation units (automobile, etc.), but they also stated that the fitness market logged 1.5 Billion miles on their devices that year. 1-2 million units is a gross underestimation. Think just how much the fitness wearable market has evolved in the last 4 years alone...

UnionVGF stated numerous applications for a GPS watch. It's not just avid runners. Most serious runners who don't like wasting time on a treadmill, but actually getting outdoors, are interested in GPS. If Apple wants to call it a "Sport" model, then make it appealing to a broader audience of athletic individuals.

 

[Aluminum213]

still laughable that people thought the apple watch wouldn't be on an yearly cycle

 

[geoff5093]

Phones always had physical keyboards and number keys.......

Do you not know why Watches of yesteryear were round?

Most people of the iPhone generation have never wore a watch and could not give a damn if its round or not. Like I said only old foggies who wore round watches when they were young care.

A rectangle does not look out of place on a wrist. Only if you are stuck in the past. The Watch is a computing device, and round screens for computing devices are idiotic.

I'm going to bookmark this post, because I guarantee that when Apple does come out with a round watch option, you and others will be singing it praises.

Round smartwatches are not idiotic. Look at all the watch faces right now, most are meant for round watches that either have empty space in the corners, or they fill it with icons, when there are much better ways to accomplish that.

Yup, that's a perfect use for a square display...

Looks like they realized the wasted space and filled it with some icons and texts. Now it looks cluttered...

I'm sorry, but round watch faces just look better and make better use of the space.

Have you ever used a round smartwatch? I owned one for 8 months, and being round did not hamper usability at all. All smartwatches should be used for now are an extension of your phone, for seeing notifications and using voice assist. Things either one do well.

I laugh at your pathetic attempt to discredit Apple while they continue to steal customers from Android and are generating $700,000,000 in sales a day and $50,000,000,000 in profits annually. While they sit on a bank account of $200,000,000,000. But in your pipe dream world they are a failure. LOL.

Yes, from sheep like you who blindly pay for anything Apple creates because you think they are the best of the best and never release a product that may not be the best thing ever.

Why the hell would you need GPS on a run?
Are you running in a wilderness?
The Watch can track your distance just fine without GPS.

I'd say less than .05% of the population cares about GPS on a smartwatch. Apple does not chase niche markets.

Who needs GPS? What about people who hike, bike, walk, run, or do almost anything outdoors and want accurate tracking with distance, elevation, and grade during their workout? The watch can estimate your distance without GPS, but it requires your phone to be with you AFAIK, and doesn't track elevation changes. It also doesn't work for biking or hiking. Where did you come up with .05%? The vast majority of people who use fitness trackers want distance, calories, and elevation tracking.

 

[PlainviewX]

How many GPS watches are sold a year? Probably one or two million. The world population is in the billions. Like I said very few people want GPS in a watch. GPS Watches are niche devices.

You're so very wrong. Garmin had $2.6 billion dollars in revenue in 2012 with 30% of that coming from fitness and outdoor gear. Just Garmin along shows the gross fallacy in your claims.

 

[Q-Dog]

Please tell us you didn't pay $18,000 for a watch which became obsolete in 12 months?

A 1-year-old car isn't obsolete. Neither are my phones and ipads. How is a one-year-old watch obsolete? Older? yes. Obsolete? no.

 

[nviz22]

Idk if I should get an Apple Watch now or wait for the 2nd gen? Interested in getting good battery life, GPS, and better speaker, so maybe I'll wait?

 

[HarryWild]

I looked at the current iTouch at the Apple store and I happy with the looks and feel. All Apple has to do is make it about 1/8" thicker and add back the cellular radio component and keep the same storage and I good to go! I love to have 128GB 6C in dark gray!

 

[The Game 161]

gen

Idk if I should get an Apple Watch now or wait for the 2nd gen? Interested in getting good battery life, GPS, and better speaker, so maybe I'll wait?

Maybe wait and you can get the first gen cheaper?

Battery life is fine on the current watch. it's at about 35% at 23:00 at night..fine to me

 

[GadgetBen]

The majority of people working out bring their phone with them according to a survey by Outdoor Magazine.

IDC research, along with Facebook, showed 79% of people ages 18-444 have their smartphones with them 22 hours a day. 63% keep it with them for all but one hour. A full quarter of respondents couldn’t recall a single time of the day when their phone wasn’t in the same room as them.

So again, it appears that the vast majority carry their phone with them while they're doing nearly everything.

I'm sorry you're in the small minority but Apple isn't building a watch for everyone. They're building it for the greatest majority of consumers out there.

Most people aren't hardcore runners. 80% of Americans don't get the recommended amount of weekly exercise according to the Centers for Disease Control. Most wouldn't have a need for GPS because they aren't that dedicated to working out.

It's time to start recognizing that your own needs aren't those of the majority and instead represent a small minority which may be better served with a niche product than with one that is designed for the average user.



Sports is just a reference to the band cause they didn't wanna call it the Apple Watch Plastic or the Apple Watch Basic.

To their credit, it is the best band for working out as sweat on the other ones if more of an issue. Leather and sweat or leather and metal aren't nearly as easy to clean as some rubber.



You'll never see battery like that. Not given the current advances in batteries. Elon Musk and Apple have made it clear that batteries simply don't work like that with advances.

You'll have to hope for Gen 50+ for something like that.

WOW how can someone be so out of touch! Welcome to 2015 Old School Mac Guy!

The watch will become more independent from the iPhone and the idea is that people doing sports will be able to use the watch independently from their iPhone. The minority aren't the people doing sports, the minority are people like you and others who don't understand the demand for a product that is multifunctional - not just a watch.

If the new Apple Watch doesn't have more fitness tracking features then you can come back on here and rub my face in it. But I predict at least one more fitness sensor and more fitness tracking capabilities.

The reason people are carrying their phone with them everywhere, is because the watch can't function without it! I expect a greater independence with the new model.

I like also how you only refer the use of Apple Watch to American users. Apple is a global brand and whilst 80% of Americans might not get the recommended weekly exercise (according to you), the rest of the world is different.

The sports band is NOT a reference! The sports band material is made for exercise! If you take yourself over to the Apple website you will see plenty of references made for Apple Watch being tailored for sports use. In fact there is a whole page dedicated to sport:

http://www.apple.com/uk/watch/health-and-fitness/

I really think you are out of touch with the times and why Apple created the watch in the first place. They created it because fitness trackers out there have become very popular (FitBit) but they are merely just plastic and have limited use. Apple have combined a fitness tracker, an iPhone and a watch all into one.

Otherwise why would Apple have put a heart rate monitor in them?!

 

[Keirasplace]

theres no need for you to act like such a condescending know it all. i have several high end watches and i assure you, the apple watch is fat and ugly and will be much thinner in the coming years, one would have to be pretty daft not to realize that.

im not sure why the fact there isnt any spare room in the current watch means they wont be able to slim things down in the future. obviously its as thin as they can get it - today. "no spare space" in the watch is different from any old fat apple product how? im sorry but there was no spare room in the iphone 3g either, but technological developments allowed the phone to get to less than half of that thickness in about a six year time frame.

youre also admitting that what i want is possible with advanced screen tech.

you then contradict yourself and concede that while screen tech would get us there, you turn around and say its impossible to have good battery life and thinness. i guess its good (and obvious) that you dont work for apple. apple will surely prove you wrong in the next few years.

you also say that theres no tech in the pipeline to increase the density and consider a 30% increase "generous". youre wrong here too. why dont you google SiNode Systems (a successful startup started by a college lab partner of mine www.sinodesystems.com) and read the very homepage, they have already developed graphene batteries that yield 200-700% more density than a typical lithium ion battery, forget your "generous" 30%.

before acting like a condescending know it all who can see into the future of technology, you should probably educate yourself on current technological developments. seems like you are devoid of a technical background, given your posts trying to sound authoritative on a subject you dont seem to actually know much about.

Hey bud, you merit EXTREME condescension. Learn to read.
You want pipe dreams. Learn to follow an argument.
There is no such tech coming. NONE.
Got that.

And current average watches on the market are that thickness or even more.
That's a fact; you may think personally it's too thick, but that's all you.

 

[puma1552]

Hey bud, you merit EXTREME condescension. Learn to read.
You want pipe dreams. Learn to follow an argument.
There is no such tech coming. NONE.
Got that.

And current average watches on the market are that thickness or even more.
That's a fact; you may think personally it's too thick, but that's all you.

You should go back and re-read your initial reply to me, it was pretty arrogant.

If you want to get petty about reading comprehension, it isn't me that struggles with it.

You said this:

As for the battery itself, there is no tech in the pipeline to increase the density in a commercial product significantly there too; let's be generous and give 30% more there too (though I have no clue were this would come from...)

To which I pointed you to the SiNode Systems home page, which clearly states the exact opposite of what you said:

Whereas current graphite-based anodes offer a capacity of 372 mAh/g, SiNode material can be customized to achieve capacities between 1000 mAh/g and over 2500 mAh/g, delivering higher cell level energy density. In addition, in-plane nano-engineered porosity is introduced to the graphene layers, allowing rapid ionic diffusion through the structure for faster charging.

The technology ALREADY EXISTS, which I ALREADY POINTED OUT. Are you done pretending to act like you know what you're talking about? It's clear you are the one that can't follow an argument, and admit when you're wrong. You made a bogus claim and I cited a legitimate source to refute it 1000%. Deal with it and admit you have no idea what you're talking about. Instead you continue to look childish ignoring it completely and stating as a de facto fact that the technology doesn't exist when it does. I mean what do you expect me to say? How can you look a blatant fact in the face and continue to ignore it?

I don't know where you get off telling me to learn to read, I read everything you said and pointed out where you were wrong, and then you dismissed hard facts proving what you said was wrong, and you tell me to learn to read? Seriously? You were condescending, I simply responded in kind and after that you still continue to ignore facts and make up your own which are outright wrong.

Clearly no need for me to waste any more time here.

 

[nviz22]

Maybe wait and you can get the first gen cheaper?

Battery life is fine on the current watch. it's at about 35% at 23:00 at night..fine to me

I am hearing it will have a FaceTime camera; which is a nice add on.