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Apple Planning March 2016 Event to Unveil Next-Generation Apple Watch, iPhone 6c Possible Too
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I have a Garmin. Two of them in fact. Counting these two, I've had 4 different models (301, 305, 315xt, 910xt). I would put the odds of having a GPS in the next Apple Watch at less than 50%. I just won't be buying one until they do, because it would be something I take off to go run, and what would the point of that be. To me, it's not a useful health and fitness device without a GPS.
And that will be the day everyone here will whine that they'll need to buy another data/voice plan from their wireless carrier.
Will you?
Well the implication is that Apple is reckless enough to release a software update en mass without making sure that would happen.
1. It's definitively in Apple's self interest to make sure that those things don't happen. Aside from the fact that they don't want to kill people just so they can release buggy software on a whim, it would also hurt their brand reputation, and get them in trouble with regulators, they would also get sued etc. nothing good comes from them releasing bad software.
2. I want Apple, not the F'nDA, in charge of my software,,,, call me crazy lol.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. You can shove your authority right up your orifice. Don't tell me whats best for me, or that some little fascist moron on the public dime knows technological hardware and software better than Apple.
*Ahem* I hate when people tell me what to do at gunpoint. Should stop that.
Now.
You give me one good reason why it would be beneficial for Apple to release software that "devices that tell you that your BP is fine when you are actually dying." One. Good. Reason. One SINGLE way in which they benefit from doing something like that.
I'll wait.
And when the best thing you can come up with is "Well, they might release software with bugs in it by accident or something," you tell me with a straight freaking face that you trust the little fascists at the FDA with Hardware/Software/Services more than you trust Apple.
I'll wait for that too.
... Have you seen the state of the Healthcare system, or a public road lately?
Besides, they don't have a right to tell me I can't buy something from someone if it poses no risk to anyone else, and they don't have a right to tell Apple that they can't sell me something I want, so long as they're not lying to me about the way in which it would perform while they do it. It is a choice between me and them. Do us a favor and keep your nose out of our business. Don't like it? Don't buy one. Simple.
As a surfer, I really want to be able to wear the watch, and use the apps that would be developed, in the water. Most of my meager cardio/exercise comes in the water.
lol...
In all honestly, I can see Apple releasing a round watch, but in the very distant future.
No way at the moment.
Once the market is fully mature, designs are boring, and it's a case of more options for customers, THEN I can see it happen, but not for quite a lot of years yet.
We've along way to go before then I'd say.
But like Stylus = Stupid
Small tablets = Stupid
Large phones = Stupid
OLED = Stupid (unless it's on a watch)
Round watch = Stupid may well be another one that changes in years to come.
Not it's not FAT. It's the average size of current watches on the market;
check it out yourself before saying nonsense.
Right.... bet.
No... Not in the way your talking.
The main obstacle to battery life, besides the battery itself is the screen tech, next is the com chips.
Nothing in the pipeline will take significant less power from them in the next 5 years: maybe 25% less.
Say, 100% less power used by the CPU (if people don't use it more obviously by using more power hungry apps).
As for the battery itself, there is no tech in the pipeline to increase the density in a commercial product significantly there too; let's be generous and give 30% more there too (though I have no clue were this would come from...)
So extra battery life by this very rosy glass scenario would be about
0.3 * (1 /(1 - ((50%+30%) * 0.25 + 1.0 * (20%)))
0.3 * (1/0.60)
= about 50% , pretty good, but not anywhere near what your talking about.
The thing that would make the most difference is a dynamic refresh screen tech that takes very little power.
If you get that, then a long battery life is possible.
Maybe people get to the second day with the 42 mm, with this, they'd get to the third day (so 3 days between charges)
BTW, the inside of the Watch is already pretty tight, not much room to cut things off...
BTW, getting it much thinner AND having a long battery life is incompatible; you'll get one or the other (or a bit of both).
Also, you forget that instead of adding battery life, many people may want more functionality instead.
Adding Cell phone function and GPS would kill any increase in battery life from any source and assure that the watch would not get thinner.
Huh! Why on earth do you need a GPS to run? Are you lost? The accelerometer (when it's tuned to your stride) gives you the exact same info (just without were you went). Unless your running in the brush or in a place with much hills, I don't get why you'd need a GPS. The GPS has a precision of +- 6-8 meters, so your not gaining much by using it, especially in an urban setting (and it's kill your battery).
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That's alright, they can be thrown onto the great gold recycling train, as represented in this South Park clip:
Will be interesting to see what they do with the watch, would be nice if they made a band too.
I feel burned by the current watch. Not because I felt it lacked features at launch and not because it will become obsolete... But just because it became a significantly worse experience with WatchOS2 and I spent 1/3 of my time with the device trudging along with that experience.
So far I've not been interested in the watch, but if they add the ability to FaceTime in the next version then I may be tempted. I'm not sure how practical it would be, but I was a Star Treck fan as a kid and taking video calls on my wrist just appeals
Not sure why some won't treat the watch like they do the phone and upgrade with each new device. I plan on picking up the next version.... was going to pick up a black SS but will now wait for March. Good stuff.
theres no need for you to act like such a condescending know it all. i have several high end watches and i assure you, the apple watch is fat and ugly and will be much thinner in the coming years, one would have to be pretty daft not to realize that.
im not sure why the fact there isnt any spare room in the current watch means they wont be able to slim things down in the future. obviously its as thin as they can get it - today. "no spare space" in the watch is different from any old fat apple product how? im sorry but there was no spare room in the iphone 3g either, but technological developments allowed the phone to get to less than half of that thickness in about a six year time frame.
youre also admitting that what i want is possible with advanced screen tech.
you then contradict yourself and concede that while screen tech would get us there, you turn around and say its impossible to have good battery life and thinness. i guess its good (and obvious) that you dont work for apple. apple will surely prove you wrong in the next few years.
you also say that theres no tech in the pipeline to increase the density and consider a 30% increase "generous". youre wrong here too. why dont you google SiNode Systems (a successful startup started by a college lab partner of mine www.sinodesystems.com) and read the very homepage, they have already developed graphene batteries that yield 200-700% more density than a typical lithium ion battery, forget your "generous" 30%.
before acting like a condescending know it all who can see into the future of technology, you should probably educate yourself on current technological developments. seems like you are devoid of a technical background, given your posts trying to sound authoritative on a subject you dont seem to actually know much about.
That has no meaning to the value. You are looking at functionality. Those that matter with money want the symbol of the period. An Apple One cannot run a TCP/IP stack but yet they sell for a half million dollars. Get your perspectives right.
This is the truth. My iPhone 6s has largely stayed at home since I got it, I still run with my old 5s. I'd get the watch if it meant I could ditch that as well.
