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Apple Plans to Enable 5G in Dual SIM Mode With Software Update Later This Year [Updated]
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It does not matter! What if I don't want to drive one mile down the street and I want to sit where where I have 5G signal? This is not an excuse. Mind boggling.
It affects my life because people like you are enablers of this sort of behavior. And it ends up affecting pretty much all aspects of my interaction with products. For you this is what normal looks like. Phones, cars, appliances. It's all normal for them not to work as advertised right out of the box.
I made a mistake by making the shock absorber analogy. OK! That's hardware and you needed a straw to hang on. Here is a software one. It's like a car company launches a model and emphasizes the infotainment system and delivers it without the software installed and says that it will be installed at a later date. VW did something somewhat similar now with the ID.3. Why? Because people like you think this is normal and they can get away with it. At least VW informed their customers ahead of the purcahse.
I was hoping that the idea that neither the car without shocks not the phone without 5G activated can be used as advertised would get through but it didn't. In the other thread there's a guy that thought Sydney was in the UK and kept mocking a Sydney resident complaining about the 5G thing so the bar is set pretty low.
As a member of the "small" minority of users with dual SIMs, this really should have been communicated more clearly. I was expecting 5G since it was advertised with no such caveat publicly. People make buying decisions on stuff like this. Kind of disappointed that this wasn't communicated on their website or even during the keynote.
My cynical, snarky side says that if they don't want to overtax the 5G networks, don't hype them as much, trying to get more people to use them!
It's a small population that uses dual sim but this was obviously a known problem and to have it leak through some training materials seems to me to be a screw-up.
I'll still get the pro-max and hope that end of the year really means the end of the year but it's surprising the mindset was that this was just going to go unnoticed.
I'll still get the pro-max and hope that end of the year really means the end of the year but it's surprising the mindset was that this was just going to go unnoticed.
iPhone XS models and newer feature both a physical SIM slot and a digital eSIM, allowing for a feature known as dual SIM, dual standby. This means you can have two lines of service on one iPhone, which is useful for purchasing data-only plans while traveling abroad or having personal and business lines on a single iPhone.
5G will not be available in Dual SIM mode on the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro at launch, however, according to an internal training document for Apple employees shared on Reddit. MacRumors can confirm that the document is authentic.
From the document:According to an internal Verizon slide obtained by MacRumors, however, Apple plans to enable 5G support in Dual SIM mode with a software update later this year. In the meantime, Verizon says that eSIM customers must remove the physical SIM from their iPhone 12 or iPhone 12 Pro to access its 5G network.
5G is automatically enabled on iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro models, as long as users have chosen a supported wireless carrier that offers a 5G network. To access 5G while roaming in other countries, Apple's document says that customers can purchase a local SIM card or eSIM plan and use it as a single line with 5G where available.
iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro pre-orders began last Friday, and shipments will begin arriving to customers this coming Friday. iPhone 12 mini and iPhone 12 Pro Max will be available to pre-order starting Friday, November 6.
Article Link: Apple Plans to Enable 5G in Dual SIM Mode With Software Update Later This Year
I have an Iphone 11 Plus Max with one regular SIM and an eSIM. Will ATTalso be offering the 5G service?
I’m surprised we haven’t ditched physical SIM’s yet. They take up a considerable volume inside a phone (that could be used for more battery). We have a perfectly functional ability to use eSIM’s instead. I’m sure Apple could move carriers to support this?
Im sure there would be savings in not having to produce and mail out SIM cards to customers.
Also I had a SIM card fail on me for the first time in my life this year - it was only about a year old too. So there’s that.
Im sure there would be savings in not having to produce and mail out SIM cards to customers.
Also I had a SIM card fail on me for the first time in my life this year - it was only about a year old too. So there’s that.
No, you can just wait until it's fixed. People here are antsy to pre-order an iPhone 12 as if it actually matters, so they test it out for you. What's wrong with that?
Turns out consumers happily beta test new features, even if they're useless. Best example: I've heard of corps that tried using smart home tech in the office. The conclusion was that smart home tech doesn't make anything faster or more convenient. Rather, consumers just like playing with shiny new stuff in their own homes.
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Physical SIM is nice cause you know you can insert it into the phone and it'll work, and it's apparent on any phone how you do that. eSIM, I've never heard of and have no idea how to use.
Maybe he's saying, you have the freedom to choose, so don't complain about your choice.
The difference is, in those cases the updates were available out of the box. The routers don’t fail to include some advertised feature unless you wait for weeks or months until the firmware arrives.
I haven’t carried a house key in years. Seems smart home tech made my life more convenient.
Maybe you are hearing things.
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You scan a QR code. It ain’t rocket science.
And as soon as the problem’s fixed, they’ll switch to complaining that 5G isn’t as fast as they thought or isn’t available in their area.
Still not a great analogy...you still got an infotainment system with the VW, just not one with the latest software update.
The phone still works...and again, let’s be serious here...how many of you single SIM users WON’T be posting Speedtest screen shots at the end of the week complaining about 5G speeds?
Until 5G becomes more widespread including wider band access, MOST of us will not experience the true benefit of it anyway.
I hope that’s not true, but people on here are being very nitpicky about this. Not buying the phone until 5G is available WEEKS from now seems so silly. #DramaQueens
Pretty sure you either scan a code or enter a code.
If you give me the choice of battery life or a physical SIM, I'll choose battery life every time.
Given that people hold phones for longer, the 5G capabilities are a big selling point. That said, a delay of a few weeks on being able to access 5G when using dual SIMs is less important given the current state of 5G in most countries. Low-band 5G is available in broad parts of North America, Asia, and Australia, but mid- and higher-band 5G is not.
Yes, but you need to be on one of their current unlimited plans. The grandfathered old plans don’t support 5G.
Wait for others to have the product first before you buy it if you really care about a particular feature. What if it has the feature day 1, but it's lame? Or don't buy from VW cause they suck and tried to cheat on emissions ratings.
Offices already have electronic keys, so I'm assuming it wasn't that. I remember they mentioned lights, coffee makers, and other food machines. Offices have other systems that aren't comparable to home ones, like security.
Offices already have occupancy sensors for turning lights on and off, coffee makers on, etc. too.
Your story is doubtful.
Where I work (undisclosed Fortune 500 company), there are simple occupancy sensors for lights. Enter room, lights stay on for 15min, manual button on wall too. Smart home lighting is more than that. Biggest difference is there's usually voice activation or app control.
The coffee machines are always on; not really sure if they're keeping water hot 24/7 or what. Again they aren't voice activated, scheduled, or app-controlled. Fanciest thing I've ever seen happen is the machine periodically expelling water to clean its foam dispensers.
Ok. So, yes, voice activation would have little use beyond that. So what’s your point?
Enablers vs disablers? You have options if you need 5g dual sim immediately, instead of waiting a few weeks.