No they shouldn’t. I have not seen any hybrid devices that didn’t have some sort of compromise. Adding a mouse to the iPad kills the entire point of have a versatile tablet especially when the Pencil has similar precision.
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Apple Plans to Let Developers Release Universal Apps That Work Across iPhone, iPad, and Mac
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I'll play. I use the left and right arrows the most and like the full-size versions better.
At one level that does sound cool, but from another it's really a bad idea!
A Phone or Tablet GUI is not the same as a Laptop or Desktop. Even now just in iOS we have the constant Ying & Yang between the iPhone and iPad code changes to be more intune with their unique GUI needs.
I think the goal should be the apps core primitives should be common and then the overlay of the given platform should be applied. That way the programmer can be selective on what he wants to turn out... an iOS, MacOS or other and if they think it makes sense to offer it across multiple OS's then compile it for them from the same base.
I think Apple is seeing the larger storage options in iOS devices now coming out as being what allows them to do this. But is that the best use of all this storage?? I think not!
I don't want bloat on my iPhone or iPad with MacOS stuff and even my MacBook Retina is still tight for storage so I surely don't want extra stuff on it either.
Skinny code is still in vogue!! Long live skinny code!!
A Phone or Tablet GUI is not the same as a Laptop or Desktop. Even now just in iOS we have the constant Ying & Yang between the iPhone and iPad code changes to be more intune with their unique GUI needs.
I think the goal should be the apps core primitives should be common and then the overlay of the given platform should be applied. That way the programmer can be selective on what he wants to turn out... an iOS, MacOS or other and if they think it makes sense to offer it across multiple OS's then compile it for them from the same base.
I think Apple is seeing the larger storage options in iOS devices now coming out as being what allows them to do this. But is that the best use of all this storage?? I think not!
I don't want bloat on my iPhone or iPad with MacOS stuff and even my MacBook Retina is still tight for storage so I surely don't want extra stuff on it either.
Skinny code is still in vogue!! Long live skinny code!!
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Sure, but the present and certainly the future is about software & not the OS people are using. Apple wouldn't think twice about killing Windows support if it meant their own ecosystem would benefit.
I'd say Windows support was on borrowed time unless Windows on ARM becomes a very viable option and isn't just restricted to that Windows 10 S crap...
I've always felt that iOS apps were too cheap (amazing people freak out about paying $1.99 for an app!), and MacOS apps were too expensive.
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You ain't lying!
The next MacOS is supposed to drop 32-bit support. And the current iOS dropped it already. So there’s room now. Also Apple added technology to the App Store to reduce the download size based on device... I think?
This is huge if true. It probably means UIKit is coming to Mac (arguably should have been there a while ago) but also that that version of UIKit will also be smart enough to detect touches or mouse input. Which could mean... mouse control is coming to iPad.
So are they changing all the macOS system library APIs to match those of iOS? That would be nice because it's hard to find help when you're making a native Mac application!
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It is an issue because most third-party Windows software is x86-only (much of it still 32-bit even). And the only reason to use Windows is third-party software.
If I correctly interpret your saying I've not seen enough to know what was "good," then I beg to differ. One need not have been at the table when the Declaration of Independence was signed to have realized the quality, magical transformation of what it was like to use a computer having a solid, dependable, unique-looking, clean, efficient, and intuitive interface compared to Windows' random reinventions every 3-4 years. Back Apple massaged a great & matured product annually until around 2014 when Jony Ive & others starting dabbling a la Microsoft and introduced dumbed-down UI elements in Yosemite, crapping all over what used to be an efficient and unique platform.
Here in this thread's topic, I fear more change for the sake of change and not for ultimate customer use benefit.
I really thought it would be the end of the X operating system as we knew it, but it didn't happen. Surely it's coming down the pipeline.
There is already shared underlying os and certain frameworks between Mac and iOS. Almost certainly Mac will become another target in the iOS app, like watch or tvOS.
With Apple's turning their back on macs/macbooks and trying to convince people "what's a computer" when you have an ipad with a Bluetooth keyboard & pencil on-hand (for only $129 & $99 extra each), a question to ponder is:
Do Apple engineers design MacBooks/Macs on their phones/ipads, or vice-versa.
I haven't looked at developing macOS apps for a few years, but AppKit always felt so archaic and not worth the time to get into. An expanded UIKit that works across iOS and macOS that supersedes AppKit would be awesome.
I don't see much down side to Apple doing this, it would probably help them keep their own stuff more up to date on the Mac too.
Messages for instance would be helped a lot, it's obvious the Mac version has a lot of technical debt and can't even send or receive half the content the iOS apps can.
I don't see much down side to Apple doing this, it would probably help them keep their own stuff more up to date on the Mac too.
Messages for instance would be helped a lot, it's obvious the Mac version has a lot of technical debt and can't even send or receive half the content the iOS apps can.
This is a developer thing. Today you can build one app that has targets for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, and Apple Watch. This will add a target, Mac.
The mac app store is already a ghost town with a scattering of abandoned apps. The software world will continue to ignore it and this change will not mean anything.
Edit: Well except a few fart apps and apps of that caliber will be ported to the mac.
Agreed. I don’t understand why people insist on blurring the lines between these devices. It always have limitations or compromises.
Nay. Fat binaries. One app that can run on Intel or ARM. They've had that capability for a LONG time.
Yet the default email app notifications still do not sync properly across the mac, iphone, and ipad. I have to open the app to get the badge to disappear on my mac if I open the email on my phone/ipad and vice versa.
Except a mouse is a tremendously easier tool than pencil to use when sitting in a certain position and doing certain work tasks. Similarly a pencil isn’t easy for hovering over pixels or doing other technical tasks. The idea to start combining things too much is such a bad idea, but makes sense in only today’s Apple offices where everything is treated like a minimalism & hardware-reduction design contest.
This is good if it helps developers create applications that integrate better into both platforms. I doubt Apple wants to cannibalize the mac platform, it's still an extremely large business. The fear is if they did move away from the macOS environment to simplify and created a fully walled garden. I currently like macOS for the Unix / POSIX compliant foundation, the ability for virtualization of multiple other operating systems, and its customization once you disable some of the gatekeeper function.
The biggest fear is that they create a unified operating system feature / visual wise and it becomes extremely restrictive in abilities. If this is done for the sake of making app creation more streamlined and making the creation of even an ARM-based Macbook more possible while keeping the desktop environment, that'd be great... as long as they support emulation of x86_64 in this environment.
The biggest fear is that they create a unified operating system feature / visual wise and it becomes extremely restrictive in abilities. If this is done for the sake of making app creation more streamlined and making the creation of even an ARM-based Macbook more possible while keeping the desktop environment, that'd be great... as long as they support emulation of x86_64 in this environment.
A 15" fanless ARM based MacBook Pro that runs iOS/macOS? I would literally throw cash at Apple.