Apple Plans to Obscure MacBook Pro Notch With Wallpaper in Marketing Images

[jz0309]

Here come the stockholders who defend everything Apple does. I'd be happy not having a dark object on screen all the time like a hair you can't wipe off.

so a large black rectangular notch (aka bezel) that goes from all the way left to all the way right is a better solution to you?

 

[Boil]

Assuming analogous to the M1, it's seemingly a normal amount, especially as these may have four DRAM chips instead of two. Each LPDDR4X chip is 200 pins alone. And I assume the larger 32C will seat at least 4 DRAM chips (800 pins).

Desktop systems, though, can use proper DIMMs, so you can scale memory quickly without needing too many more pins. For example,

AMD Zen3 + 2x DDR4 = 1907 pins

Alder Lake + 2x DDR5 = 2276 pins

Just imagining the 16,732 pins needed for the Jade 4C in the Mac Pro lineup...!

 

[benspratling]

Wait, what if the menu bar stays where it is, and there's a new "above the menubar" status area that stays black?

status bars, menu bars, title bars, tool bars, tab bars... these things reproduce like tribbles! then you get web apps that have their own logo bars, link bars, menu bars, title bars, button bars and nearly 25% of your screen is filled by ever-present nearly useless bars! I love iOS design where there's 1 app bar and a half-height system bar, and that's it. nothing else. and the content fills the screen.

 

[sunny5]

Not sure if MCM cpu is good.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

I dont know, I feel like I am wasting my time even saying this, but.

I understand the dislike for the aesthetics of the notch. I agree it does look a little out of place.
-But it does blend in with time.
-And it does give apple a "branding" aesthetic (haters are definitely gonna hate that one).
-B U T most importantly it means a slightly bigger screen than IF INSTEAD you had a perfectly square bezel.

I swear to god for years you giant bezel haters were saying "look at all this wasted space" and Apple was like "yeah but where do we put the camera and stuff then, we aint putting it BEHIND the screen, not yet anyways". So then you all humphed and said "I hate these stupid giant bezels, look at all this wasted space".

Here we are years later Apple has LISTENED, and COMPRIMISED, they are giving you best of both worlds. You get the bigger screen where it is possible, and then a notch where it is not. It seems like the perfect too good to be true win-win, that honestly probably took some advanced manufacturing to make work. But nope, not happy. Just cause. "It doesnt bend the law of phyiscs DATS hwhy".

I guess this is just the way the world is.

"branding" aesthetic!!! Wow, that's the most glorious Apple apology I've ever heard!.

No mate, we have just seen the countless other laptops and computer screens with small bezels and no notch, and wonder why the hell the trillion dollar man can't pull it off too.

 

[Boil]

Not sure if MCM cpu is good.

Think of a dual or quad socket Xeon motherboard with dual or quad GPUs in the PCIe slots, three to five different memory pools...

Now "miniaturize" it all and put it on a package with a single memory pool...

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

I would obscure the notch by hooking up to my 32" display and closing the lid. But then the notch doesn't bother me that much. 🤷‍♂️

You will still know it is there. It will still nag at you. Just like this song will nag you all day "It's the final countdown..." Enjoy.

 

[sunny5]

Think of a dual or quad socket Xeon motherboard with dual or quad GPUs in the PCIe slots, three to five different memory pools...

Now "miniaturize" it all and put it on a package with a single memory pool...

We dont know if adding multiple chip will increase the performance and there are many software taking advantage from a single core speed instead of multicore.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

There is not going to be any notch on the menu bar or obscuring tool bars in full screen mode.

The camera module will still be above the menu bar.

Above the menu bar there will probably be a black mini LED area with notifications, etc. It would look like a bezel but with shortcuts and information.

The camera module will be in this black area above the menu bar.

 

[Zdigital2015]

I dont know, I feel like I am wasting my time even saying this, but.

I understand the dislike for the aesthetics of the notch. I agree it does look a little out of place.
-But it does blend in with time.
-And it does give apple a "branding" aesthetic (haters are definitely gonna hate that one).
-B U T most importantly it means a slightly bigger screen than IF INSTEAD you had a perfectly square bezel.

I swear to god for years you giant bezel haters were saying "look at all this wasted space" and Apple was like "yeah but where do we put the camera and stuff then, we aint putting it BEHIND the screen, not yet anyways". So then you all humphed and said "I hate these stupid giant bezels, look at all this wasted space".

Here we are years later Apple has LISTENED, and COMPRIMISED, they are giving you best of both worlds. You get the bigger screen where it is possible, and then a notch where it is not. It seems like the perfect too good to be true win-win, that honestly probably took some advanced manufacturing to make work. But nope, not happy. Just cause. "It doesnt bend the law of phyiscs DATS hwhy".

I guess this is just the way the world is.

The notch is simply not needed and the Small Bezel Cult is not to be feared, but to be ignored. Apple is a $2 Trillion company, they don’t need to run from a small vocal contingent of lunatics who cry about bezels every time a new product is released. The notch is a not needed on the new MacBook Pro and no one can honestly give a good enough reason why Apple would do it. Besides, I think it’s a feint to try and rat out leakers.

 

[Jdhommert]

If they have a 16" screen without a notch now, why the hell will they need a notch in the new one? Just trying to make the bezels smaller?

Well looking at a pic of the current 16, there is a decent size bezel up top. So I'm ok if they add real estate up top if it means a notch. I almost exclusively use Safari and dont think it will interfere in the menu bar and will just give more viewing real estate. Same with the iPhone. After a day or so you dont even see the notch and id rather have more screen real estate than less. Maybe it screws up the aspect ratio or something, idk. I'm also an idiot who doesn't know anything who spends thousands of dollars on a laptop to browse the internet exclusively

 

[Zdigital2015]

so a large black rectangular notch (aka bezel) that goes from all the way left to all the way right is a better solution to you?

Yes, a notch is stupid no matter how Apple tries to spin it.

 

[aevan]

Here come the stockholders who defend everything Apple does. I'd be happy not having a dark object on screen all the time like a hair you can't wipe off.

I suggest no one here orders the new MBP! More left for the stockholders, those naive bastards! Don't buy, the notch is terrible, it is the worst! Don't be a sheep!

(I just realized the more people buys this, the harder it will be to get one for those of us that do want it)

 

[joey0]

I feel like the past few posts today have gone against a lot about what we've learned about the refreshed machines over the past 2 years. MR has been very liberal in entertaining these unheard of leakers more than other news sites.

 

[xMorgoleopardx]

It is but will also have a notch.

Yay

 

[aevan]

Yes, a notch is stupid no matter how Apple tries to spin it.

I don't know about laptops, we'll have to see the reasoning there - but so far I haven't found a better solution on the phone (until they can have something as secure as FaceID beneath the screen), so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But looking at my Mac screen - that area is probably the least used area on the screen - it is either covered by a black bar from a video, by a title bar of a window or by the Mac menu bar. It's empty space 99% of the time for me, so I guess, if it means having a larger screen on a smaller device.... maybe it's not so stupid after all.

 

[jz0309]

Yes, a notch is stupid no matter how Apple tries to spin it.

to YOU it's stupid, for ME it's a great idea to gain more screen real estate ... but we don't have to agree but we will find out tomorrow ...

 

[Jdhommert]

Speaking of im an idiot...explain to me what the hell all this talk of pins and double chips or whatever

Does this mean the CPU will be super duper gooder or is teh talk of 8/16/32 core just referring to the GPU or?

It seems like so much performance focus talk these days is GPU not CPU...

I live in Safari with more tabs than my moms study bible, so I want 32gb of RAM. How important is CPU vs GPU for using Safari? Or maybe I should say-should I be more concerned or excited with CPU or GPU improvements?

 

[BradWI]

I've seen some very, very thin top bezels on Windows laptops that still had decent webcams in them. Apple had better be using some very special camera/sensor setup such as Face ID to necessitate cutting into the screen real estate for it. If it's just a FHD webcam and ambient light sensor, there's no justification for the notch.

 

[UnusedLoginID]

Lots of comments here, so what I’m going to say might have been mentioned before …

I don’t see why Apple would bring back HDMI and SD card ports. Hardly anybody uses the latter, as to HDMI, the limited number of users who would want to connect a sub-par display can purchase the HDMI/USB/ USB-C adapter. Most high-resolution 4K or 5K displays now use USB-C.

Basically adding these ports would be a waste of money and space, not in apple’s interests.
And Apple is not known to remove old limited-use features and bring them back later. They’re more inclined to add brand new features (touch bar, 3D-touch) and remove them if they’re not catching up.
Of course, there’s always the MagSafe exception, but then it was forward-thinking and loved by all.

 

[Burger Thing]

I've seen some very, very thin top bezels on Windows laptops that still had decent webcams in them. Apple had better be using some very special camera/sensor setup such as Face ID to necessitate cutting into the screen real estate for it. If it's just a FHD webcam and ambient light sensor, there's no justification for the notch.

This should be automatically copied and pasted as a reply to all the Notch enthusiasts here in this forum.

 

[SegNerd]

If the notch rumor turns out to be false, then this will forever be known as "the time MacRumors accused Apple of trying to cover up something that didn't even happen."

 

[inteliboy]

I don’t understand the notch. Apple pulled off a beautiful design with the iPad Pro screen and there is no notch. It’s built into the bezel which is quite small. Why not just keep that design language and extend the sides and bottom to go more bezel less and just leave the top bezel to feature the hardware underneath.

Why not make use of the real estate either side of the camera array? Put useable screen area there.

 

[1984]

I've seen some very, very thin top bezels on Windows laptops that still had decent webcams in them. Apple had better be using some very special camera/sensor setup such as Face ID to necessitate cutting into the screen real estate for it. If it's just a FHD webcam and ambient light sensor, there's no justification for the notch.

If the leaks are true the bezels won't even be as thin as those yet still requite a notch and not even for Face ID either.

 

[Thebrochure]

Until they go back to the type of keyboard that the 2013 MacBook Pro used, I will not be upgrading.