Apple Plans to Start Reopening Retail Stores in First Half of April

[mattopotamus]

My only question for people here is, why the paranoia here about this?

It is not like this is a death sentence for every single person.

If you are in the high risk group then stay inside and away from other folks, it is that simple.

It seems like you have a group that understands EVERYONE in the world is going to be exposed to this, and the group that thinks we can avoid contact with the virus. In 3 weeks time, we should have enough infrastructure in place which is all we can do.

 

[einsteinbqat]

If that is true, then it would be completely irresponsible.

 

[sirghost]

It seems like you have a group that understands EVERYONE in the world is going to be exposed to this, and the group that thinks we can avoid contact with the virus. In 3 weeks time, we should have enough infrastructure in place which is all we can do.

The problem is it’s too late to avoid contact with it.

That is plainly obvious.

 

[CarlJ]

This is horribly irresponsible to be announcing this even before the cases of Covid have peaked, which isn't likely to happen by mid-april.

They're not announcing it, they're telling their employees what to prepare for. That's not horribly irresponsible, that's prudent. And plans may change as we get closer to the dates given.

 

[sirghost]

If that is true, then it would be completely irresponsible.

Why I sit irresponsible here?

again, the virus is not a death sentence for all humans on the planet.

Those that are at risk should take precautions to shield themselves from it, real simple.

 

[JimmyBanks6]

Why is it insane to do so?

Actual proof, not paranoia would be nice For you to provide.

Again, this is not a death sentence for the majority and those that are at risk know who they are and can take to protect themselves from it.

Every medical professional in the world is encouraging social distancing right now, but yes, me repeating what the actual experts are saying is "paranoia".

The USA is about to become to epicenter of the disease, and the uneducated, irresponsible and dangerous opinions being posted on the internet by people such as yourself is the reason why.

Now go educate yourself. You can start here: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

 

[CarlJ]

It is not like this is a death sentence for every single person.

If you are in the high risk group then stay inside and away from other folks, it is that simple.

There are young people in the hospital with this too. No one is immune.

 

[mattopotamus]

The problem is it’s too late to avoid contact with it.

That is plainly obvious.

Agreed, and there is no reason to destroy an economy to try and avoid contact at this point.

 

[citysnaps]

Complete insanity to even consider reopening in the USA which is still on an exponential increase.

In the US, it's up to state Governors and their decrees. In California, Apple opening stores opening will not be happening until the situation changes.

 

[Glideslope]

...... and AAPL is back over the mark at 1.080T. I wish my children could have the world I grew up in. So sad.

 

[JimmyBanks6]

Agreed, and there is no reason to destroy an economy to try and avoid contact at this point.

Yeah, let's just completely run out of resources at hospitals and let people die instead.

Economy > People, obviously. Smfh.

 

[DogHouseDub]

"will likely remain closed longer in areas with more widespread outbreaks."

brilliant. Because viruses know to stay put, and people never travel...

 

[sirghost]

There are young people in the hospital with this too. No one is immune.

Being In the hospital is not the same as a death sentence though and there are a hell of a lot of folks acting as if getting this virus is a death sentence.

That is what is causing the mass paranoia and what not and is why people need to simply remain calm, take the precautions they need for themselves.

 

[TiggrToo]

Everyone going should use masks
At least to prevent spread.

Only N95 masks are of any value and they're needed by health professionals.

Us normal folks should not wear masks unless told to by our doctor's or other medical professional.

 

[Breaking Good]

Well, we need to start looking at this realistically for all involved.

Look I get it, you don't want to overwhelm the health system...

No, you don't get it. If you overwhelm the healthcare system then the healthcare system is no longer available for anyone.

If you doctor gets sick, then your doctor isn't available to treat you. Something you could survive if you received proper medical care could end up being fatal.

People want to compare this to flu, but it spreads much faster than flu. While most people who contract this will recover, the caveat in that is that 17%, or one in six, will require hospitalization. If there is no hospitalization available to them then many of those 17% will die. So you can end up with a death rate of around a million in the United States alone.

 

[Dave-Z]

Just going to leave this here for your viewing pleasure:

 

[sirghost]

No, you don't get it. If you overwhelm the healthcare system then the healthcare system is no longer available for anyone.

If you doctor gets sick, then your doctor isn't available to treat you. Something you could survive if you received proper medical care could end up being fatal.

People want to compare this to flu, but it spreads much faster than flu. While most people who contract this will recover, the caveat in that is that 17%, or one in six, will require hospitalization. If there is no hospitalization available to them then many of those 17% will die. So you can end up with a death rate of around a million in the United States alone.

The issue is, the media are not reporting numbers of people who are going in the hospital for this, they are using number of infections which is inflating people’s fears of the issue of overloading the medical system.

So again,it is stil not as bad as everyone is making this and is not a death sentence for every single person on the planet.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Bring it on!
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Again, this is not a death sentence for the majority and those that are at risk know who they are and can take to protect themselves from it.

Blows my mind that people think we should shut down the world for a very small percentage of people at risk that can take care of themselves by staying away from the rest of us. If I give your grandma thismess, guess what, she was out in public too.

 

[[AUT] Thomas]

Several hundred per day?

There are only 2,000 cases in all of California and it took a while to get to that point.

Yes, there are more infections every day, but no need to exaggerate.

New York City has 13,000 cases which is unfortunate.

Exponential growth. And what you see in the charts is data that likely is a week behind.
You will have 20-30% more cases as the day before if you do nothing, so for CA 2300 infected at a 25% d2d rise:
In one week: 11k
In two weeks: 40k
In three weeks: 250k
Of those 5% hit the ICU.
Tricky part: your actions today will only show effectiveness in 14 days. So, when you act only on the status quo situation you'll be too late...
As for the growth part: I recommend this vid:

Why? If im not sick why should i wear a mask for?

Because you don't know if you are sick. You can spread it 2-3 weeks without noticing. You may recover from it without noticing either, yet spread it. However, if you have no symptoms, the risk of infecting someone during a brief talk e.g. at a counter mainting distance is likely next to non-existing, which is why the usefulness of masks on the general population is questionable and certainly not recommended when we have a shortage and need all of them in the hospitals.
EDIT: As for masks: I'm talking about surgical masks - these provide not filtration, but prevent spitting small drops when talking. FFP masks are for people who are exposed to aerosol from infected people coughing or sneezing. FFP masks only make sense if you're in contact with likely infected people or need the maximum of protection because your system is compromised (cancer patients,...).

 

[TiggrToo]

Bring it on!
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Blows my mind that people think we should shut down the world for a very small percentage of people at risk that can take care of themselves by staying away from the rest of us. If I give your grandma thismess, guess what, she was out in public too.

Are you for real? Heaven's sake, this is incredibly serious and you're joking around.

 

[citysnaps]

Being In the hospital is not the same as a death sentence though and there are a hell of a lot of folks acting as if getting this virus is a death sentence.

That is what is causing the mass paranoia and what not and is why people need to simply remain calm, take the precautions they need for themselves.

Are you suggesting there should not be sheltering in place for all people, say, in the US?

 

[luvbug]

I really don't understand the thinking here in the US. You either shutdown, or you don't. If you shut down in a "hot" spot, but then reopen (or not close) in "cool" spots, all you are doing is inviting people in the "hot" spot to come over to the "cool" spot to shop. I'll let you figure out what happens after that in the "cool" spot. The virus is at least as mobile as we are.

 

[Neepman]

Bottom line. You cannot destroy the world economy for generations. There is a price on human life no matter what flowers and unicorns vision of the world one might have.

 

[RogerWilco]

Several hundred per day?

There are only 2,000 cases in all of California and it took a while to get to that point.

Yes, there are more infections every day, but no need to exaggerate.

New York City has 13,000 cases which is unfortunate.

Absent a lockdown, the case numbers will increase by a factor of ten every 14 days. Two weeks from now CA will have 24K cases, 240K in a month.

 

[Mw0103]

Bring it on!
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Blows my mind that people think we should shut down the world for a very small percentage of people at risk that can take care of themselves by staying away from the rest of us. If I give your grandma thismess, guess what, she was out in public too.

Blows my mind that people think “the rest of us” won’t overwhelm the hospitals if we all go back to business as usual.

And, in case you aren’t aware, people aren’t very good at following directions. We tried social distancing before stay-at-home orders. Guess what? People ignored social distancing. Now, granted, some people are also ignoring the stay-at-home orders, but its a smaller number of dumb selfish people traipsing around in public because (1) the seriousness has dawned on some; (2) public perception; and (3) there aren’t many places left to go.