So amusing to look at people losing their wits over this. Get a hold of yourselves.
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Apple Plans to Start Reopening Retail Stores in First Half of April
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The problem is YOU don't know if you are sick or not. You can spread it and not even know you are doing so. So basically you are killing someone's grandma or putting some child in the ICU or someone's parent or someones teen just because you can't stay put. Selfish is what people are these days. You also don't know how your body will react to something completely foreign that it has never seen before. Odds are you will be ok, but the odds aren't that great that you won't.
Regarding CA. They have (currently) added 361 cases today, by the end of yesterday they added 381. NY today has 4790 cases and added 53 deaths just from this to their total. Of those 53 deaths, how many of them could have been prevented by people just listening to what they are supposed to do? How many of those 53 deaths or hospitalizations will cost someone else their life due to heart attack, stroke, car accident, or even the flu because there isn't room to treat them in time?
Stop being a selfish prick, unfortunately we all have to live on this planet together, even the *******s.
The only way they should reopen cities and businesses is to test the entire population for antibodies. If you have the antibodies then you are cleared to return to normal life. If you don't then you stay put. But we all know they won't do that because the dollar is more important than lives. The ass in the white house doesn't care about lives, he wants his hotels reopened and the market to reverse itself so that the stock he owns will be worth something when he gets voted out of office.
Except that “contact” is what will ultimately destroy the economy.
Given that Hong Kong started to loosen restrictions and it quickly saw a surge in cases...this whole "let's get back to normal" doesn't bode well...
I for one bought two Apple devices this week. A phone and a Mac.
Apple today informed employees that it plans to reopen its Apple retail stores starting in the first half of April, according to Bloomberg. Retail stores will not all reopen at once and will likely remain closed longer in areas with more widespread outbreaks.
Apple closed all of its stores outside of China on March 14, and at the time of the closure, said that retail locations would remain closed until March 27. That date was later extended with vague wording on the Apple Store website that said stores would be closed "until further notice."
Apple's retail chief Deirdre O'Brien apparently told employees today that remote work plans will be extended through at least April 5, but after that date, brick and mortar stores will be reopening on a staggered basis. Apple plans to reevaluate work from home arrangements on a weekly basis based on workers' locations.
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If you read, I said those at risk, meaning those that are elderly and those that have underlying issues that the Chinese virus would cause to be more inflamed.
Thanks for misinterpreting what I said before.
Just sad, Apple!
Trump really does want to open everything up by April 12th from the looks of it. Apple must have gotten the green light from Trump.
Trump really does want to open everything up by April 12th from the looks of it. Apple must have gotten the green light from Trump.
So?
Italy had about 3 million flu cases and about 250 flu deaths the entire season.
Compared to nearly 7,000 Covid-19 deaths in less than 3 weeks, with numbers still sharply rising.
And this is not some poor 3rd world country with a crappy health care system.
The region that is mostly hit is the Northern part around Milano, that is among the richest areas in Europe.
[1] https://www.thelocal.it/20200123/flu-outbreak-in-italy-half-a-million-people-struck-down-in-a-week
[2] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
The complete disregard for human life shown in this thread by (thankfully) a small minority is completely sickening.
Why is it not that simple? People who are elderly and those that are high risk know that they are so.
It took 64 days to hit 100,000 infections worldwide. It took 11 more days to hit 200,000. 4 days to hit 300,000. Today we will hit 400,000... two days later. Anyone want to take a crack at the math on hitting 500,000? A million? 10 million?
And those death rates that seem reasonably low now? Wait and see what happens to those rates when critically ill patients cannot get ventilators. Oh wait, we’ve already seen it, in China and Italy. Death rate spikes to 8 (Italy)or 12% (China).
This is not a matter of opinion. This is math. Millions will die, and not just old people.
And those death rates that seem reasonably low now? Wait and see what happens to those rates when critically ill patients cannot get ventilators. Oh wait, we’ve already seen it, in China and Italy. Death rate spikes to 8 (Italy)or 12% (China).
This is not a matter of opinion. This is math. Millions will die, and not just old people.
The issue in Italy is the population there is mostly elderly and is why there numbers are skewing higher.
It’s people like you who will allow this to continue to grow and spread.
Nearly 1000 people a day in Italy are dying from this. The mortality rate of this is about 30 times the flu and there is no vaccine and no treatment. It’s a pandemic. I’m sure you’re more knowledgeable about this then the entire CDC, the WHO, all of the scientists and Drs working on this etc. You seriously just compared a year of flu statistics to a couple months of this (the flu is still ongoing simultaneously with this btw). You should really just refrain from commenting on things you literally don’t understand at all.
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But again!it is also not EVERYONE will die form this.
Yes, the death rate will go up, yes, that is not a good thing, but guess what, it is reality on this planet that people die.
Not saying this is the same as the flu, but people die form the flu and other viruses, both known and unknown and we do not panic over that.
The virus has been here since November folks....the first cases were in China in November now. We didn't shut travel till end of Jan.The CDC is starting to admit they missed this early & thought it was just a bad flu strain in early December. We didn't shut the country down. Ignorance is bliss. Now we have fear/panic that just isn't warranted.
And let's be honest, these expert's though amazing, are just guessing for the most part...in fact they are so narrowly focus they can't see subjectively . If you compare things to the past we're well beyond a measured response.
www.theatlantic.com
And let's be honest, these expert's though amazing, are just guessing for the most part...in fact they are so narrowly focus they can't see subjectively . If you compare things to the past we're well beyond a measured response.
The Peculiar Blindness of Experts
Credentialed authorities are comically bad at predicting the future. But reliable forecasting is possible.
This guy thinks we should only worry about pandemics that have a 100% kill rate, lmfao.
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Clearly you do not understand the concept of exponential growth. Please familiarize yourself with it before posting any other silly statements like this.
Italy had 24000 deaths in 2017 from respiratory viruses. The reason is their population of elderly is 20% higher than the average in the EU. This isn't some new phenomenal in Italy you know right?
• In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%.
• More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.
• Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.
Second: it’s not that simple because the non-high risk will still need hospitalization in greater numbers than available beds if we return to “business as usual” too soon. So you’ll remove a bunch of the workforce permanently (and, hint: that’s not great for the economy). The world is in this together. Why would the economy of any country that controls this be affected long-term? Did I miss the research that showed that the world’s money supply would be burned each day a shelter-in-place order is in effect? Seems to me a global pause to keep the workforce alive is better for the economy than random hotspots where significant chunks of the workforce are permanently removed.
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Good, because people need work to pay rent! It's crazy we still have to pay rent during this pandemic.
Your snark isn't necessary. It was a genuine question.
So, if the elderly and those with underlying issues are sheltering in place, what about everyone else along with those who are asymptomatic infected?
Business as usual for them? Just let the the virus run its course, while people are out and about business as usual, with the number of infected doubling every 3 days (as in New York) until the entire population is infected and suffering? It won't take many days for that to occur. That's the power of exponential growth.
Italy has roughly 2 ICU hospital beds per 1,000 citizens. California, around 1.4 ICU beds per thousand people.
Right now it is unknown if people can be reinfected. And a vaccine will likely be unavailable for at least a year.
What is your plan for dealing with the potential situation of the total population being infected and suffering?
You’ll see increases in the thousands soon in the US and Canada, one person can lead to over 400 infected in 30 days based on normal everyday life as it was before the lockdowns.
In the U.K. for instance 1 to 2 weeks ago the infected were in the hundreds, today it’s at 8077, and only people in hospitals are being tested.
so it is indeed correct to say several hundred a day. The virus spreads with ease due to no one having immunity against it.
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