are you... are you suggesting that we should accept a 10% mortality rate for a disease that could infect 70% of the US before herd immunity starts to stop it? I want to make sure I’m not misunderstanding you here, so is that what you’re saying?
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Some of your posts recently (compiled):
“Go to work. If you get sick you get sick. If anyone dies from this they’re ready to go. We need to thin the population anyway. A bunch of old people are dying...real breaking news. A few people have died, big deal. Just don’t screw up and delay the fall iPhone launch and I’m good.”
With most flus you infect 1.3 to 1.4 people. After 10 levels of infection are passed on you’ve infected between 14-29 people. With covid-19 each person infects 3 others. After the same 10 levels you’ve infected 59,000. About 15% go to hospital. You’ve sent over 8,000 people there. Assuming it stops at 10 levels. Which it won’t. And that’s just you. What does your healthcare look like now? What about non-covid health services?
It’s not just affecting the old and susceptible. But according to you they can just die. So long as you get your iPhone.
the point is that 70%, if not much higher, of people in America already probably have it. Focus on quarantining the sick, not the people who are unaffected by the virus carrying it. It can’t be done.
This virus does not present symptoms for up to two weeks after infection. The symptoms are mild for most people. As a result of these two facts, this virus spreads quickly and spreads easily.
For a select group of people (elderly and those with respiratory issues) there is a high risk of death.
Combine a virus that most people could easily get and ignore, with a select group of people who could easily die. The sum of that is the death of millions globally.
Isolation is not to protect the majority of the population. It's to protect those who are vulnerable.
(Furthermore, as mentioned earlier in this thread, if hospitals are overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, others who need care for non-coronavirus-related issues could suffer or die from things are otherwise treatable.)
This is completely made up and factually wrong.
Oh my.... they are closing down whole countries and all could've been averted if only they had asked you first!
It's all just paranoia, and all these pompous scientists in them white coats have no idea.
Why didn't you say so!
Like surely you have informed yourself thoroughly and have a really good overview over the virus and the disease, and you also know a lot about epidemiology and how an outbreak can be handled by a society.
So you have a solid basis for your opinion.
Right?
Also those all those elderly who need care... couldn't they all just help each other? This way they can stay inside and healthy!
smh
I’d be willing to bet that for every 1 confirmed there are hundreds if not thousands unconfirmed with mild/no symptoms.
If this is a typical American attitude then ... you're doomed.
It’s crazy that landlords have to collect rent to make ends meet too! Greedy bastards!
Instead of making things up you should use that time to educate yourself properly.
Finally someone is speaking the truth!
To hell with the elderly and sickly!
Money is far more important.
I wanna go to Disneyland next week and on a cruise this spring. And if can't go to my favorite pizza place every week, I get really mad, I tell ya!
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I have. Thanks though. Get ready for the numbers when everyone can test. Specifically when you can test if you had it but are now cleared.
This statement is proof that you haven't: "the point is that 70%, if not much higher, of people in America already probably have it."
Laughably wrong.
That is not true. Infectious disease naming is managed by the WHO (World Health Organization). With the assigned name set by the ICD (International Classification of Diseases).
You do understand that poverty causes more issues than this virus will right? Suicides, divorces, lost businesses, lost pay, lost medical coverage, lost of property (property like the ability own a business or get to a business (transportation), death (from all sorts of medical issues people cannot pay for, etc).
We live in a society every day that has multiple risks. People were at risk before this and I guarantee you the majority of you didn't give a sh-t about protecting them from the flu which is almost as deadly to them.
You probably went to work sick, you probably coughed, sneezed in public without covering your mouth, touched things with your hands with viruses on them, didn't wipe down your work stations, probably got others sick (going to work, out to bars, etc) who then took it home to those that cared for elderly, young, children, at risk, etc.
There's a reason an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza...
So yah, we need to take CV seriously but not this seriously, but we need to take the flu WAAAAAY more seriously. Again, on a scale of 1-100, we're at a 10 with the flu and a 100 with CV...need to dial one up and dial one back.
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I am infected with this virus,and no, it is not nearly as bad as you are making it to be.
The only symptoms I had was a mild fever for about 12 hours, some body ache for a few days and a tiny cough.
Again, it did not and is not killing me.
As seen, this is what most people will experience and MOST people will not die form this.
So I ask again, stop blowing thisout or proportion as it the likes of you driving the media to blow this up and causes others to blow itup way out of proportion.
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They say the virus can live of surfaces for 14 days. To think it’s able to be contained is a joke.
We have no idea how many actual cases are in CA, because so few people have been tested. Since the availability of testing in the USA has been absolutely terrible, we can't even fathom a reasonable guess as to how many actual cases are out there. The only thing we can measure with any confidence is the number of people who have actually died from it. In CA, the total number of people dead has been doubling every four days. So, if this has not been mitigated already, the total number of deaths will be 1000x higher in 40 days. That's how exponential growth works. In 28 days, the total number of deaths in CA will be 128x higher, or about 5,000 total; again assuming no mitigation in the past. I say this because the average time between infection and death is 30 days, so those people are already dead men walking. Some of them may not even know they are sick, yet. To summarize: there are about 5000 Californians who are going to die from coronavirus in the next 28 days, no matter what else happens in the future to halt the spread of the disease.
Exactly, since it is already out there for most likely the majority of the country, why kill the economy of the world.
Every post you have made has been easily dismantled by the actually educated people in here.
Your opinions have been shown to be irrelevant.
For those that think the economy (money) is everything: What happens to the economy if 5% (extra) of the world population dies in a period of months? The global economy can't even deal with 0% *growth*, let alone a sudden 5% contraction (that can't be replaced by some Central bank and/or government policy shift). The global economy demands never-ending growth, which is, ofc, impossible in a finite world. So, one way or another, what we are currently experiencing is exactly what needs to happen, on a permanent basis, in order for our species, as well as all life on the planet (if they die, we die), to survive long-term.
Wow this is the dumbest discussion yet. You Corona deniers are about as bad as climate change deniers or flat earthers or anti-vaxxers. I'm out.