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This is the only thing worth commending Apple for these days, it seems.

This and Airpods.
 
what the hell is a gigawatt?

It's a unit of electrical power. Equal to 1,000 megawatts. Or simply 1 billion watts.

It's enough to power roughly 700,000 to 750,000 average homes, assuming a steady load with no peak demands. Less if you consider peak loads.

Expressed differently, a gigawatt could light up 10 million 100 watt (old-school tungsten) lightbulbs, assuming no transmission losses.
 
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Really. You are asserting that Apple randomly bricks customer phones in order to cause customers to trade them in where they are then recycled into new phones? In the hundreds of millions?

That's quite a claim. One where I'm certain you have links documenting this practice. Feel free to post a few.

It happens a lot more than you think. It's pretty clever actually. This is one of many threads.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tivation-locked-with-wrong-apple-ids.2004550/
 
Apple can resort to randomly iCloud locking people's device rendering it a brick where it ends up as a trade in. I've seen it happen numerous times to people especially if they didn't keep sales record or got it as a gift. Pretty clever I must say.
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It's old iPhones! The new iPhone is old iPhones!
 
Only on MR could users find things to complain about with such a benign subject.

Challenge accepted.

Using more environmentally friendly manufacturing processes will lead too problems like xbox's red ring of death from using lead free solder.
 
And it's a scheme devised by Apple to intentionally brick customer phones so that people will turn them in to Apple where they can then be recycled into new phones. 100s of millions of them. Got it...

Bingo! You're catching on. iCloud locked devices are useless to everyone but Apple who can then unlock it as refurbs if in good condition or recycled.
 
Now i understand their current mac lineup. They need to wait a couple of generations so they can salvage -- er recycle parts like CPU and RAM from old windows computers.
 
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Jackson also defended Apple's history of making products that are hard to repair. Allowing customers to repair Apple products themselves "sounds like an easy thing to say," she said. But "technology is really complex; it is sophisticated to make it work, to ensure that you have security and privacy, [and] that somebody isn't giving you bad parts."

And the reward for the most pathetic excuse for the lack of upgradeability & repairability goes to...
 
I think they should make a user easily repairable iPhone. Just as a proof of concept.

I'm guessing it'd be an inch longer / wider and ½ inch thicker (and weighs who knows how much more!). They've got to have brackets/mounts for everything that doesn't get glued and forced together. Some kind of mounting for the screen and a user replaceable battery.

Well if Gary Lapointe guesses it's so, it obviously must be true :rolleyes:

The iPhone 4/4s were a lot smaller than the current phablets coming out of Apple and yet they were among the most easily serviceable smartphones ever made. In fact they were so easy to repair that Apple switched from philips to proprietary pentalobe screws leading to the popular "iPhone liberation kit". It was only on the iPhone 5 that Apple started gluing everything into a non-servicible brick entirely because they didn't want to have repairable iPhones.

There's plenty of examples of where Apple removes a feature and people like you pretend it's to save space. How about the nice big empty void in the iPhone 7 where you could have a headphone pin or a larger speaker.

They took the CD drive out of the mac mini how many years ago? The machine is still the same form factor, they've added nothing in its place and the space it used to occupy is still an empty void. Go Apple!!
 
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I love this idea. It will be great to turn in my old macs and phones and whatever and know they are recycled and taken care of properly.
 
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Climate change is real though. I don't believe republicans refute it. It's more like the amount of impact.

Did I get that correct?

When 97% of all scientific study, peer reviewed journals, and decades of research says it's happening.

we obviously need to believe the 3% who say it doesn't and trust the republicans to defend us against the evil tyranny that is climate change evangelist !

/s
 
Well if Gary Lapointe guesses it's so, it obviously must be true :rolleyes:

The iPhone 4/4s were a lot smaller than the current phablets coming out of Apple and yet they were among the most easily serviceable smartphones ever made. In fact they were so easy to repair that Apple switched from philips to proprietary pentalobe screws leading to the popular "iPhone liberation kit". It was only on the iPhone 5 that Apple started gluing everything into a non-servicible brick entirely because they didn't want to have repairable iPhones.

There's plenty of examples of where Apple removes a feature and people like you pretend it's to save space. How about the nice big empty void in the iPhone 7 where you could have a headphone pin or a larger speaker.

They took the CD drive out of the mac mini how many years ago? The machine is still the same form factor, they've added nothing in its place and the space it used to occupy is still an empty void. Go Apple!!

CD?..... what's a CD?
 
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Over a billion iOS devices shipped here boat by boat from Asia constantly being connected to a blanket of wi-fi set up by millions of routers across the world running 24/7/365 and all your data being stored in many super-computer farms (cloud) keeping track off all your searches and purchases indefinitely.

And NOW you want to save energy?

How about we just cut waste 50% instantaneously by doubling the length of time between purchasing updated products?
 
I commend apple for this. Apple though, not building any of its own products, will be interesting how they actually implement this. Very interesting supply lines.
 
Cool story. Unfortunately Apple Retail is not factored into these numbers. There's some HUGE waste there. Not to mention they don't have access to renewable energy at the stores.
 
Cool story. Unfortunately Apple Retail is not factored into these numbers. There's some HUGE waste there. Not to mention they don't have access to renewable energy at the stores.
Apple knows how much electricity is used at each store. It has to as it pays the bills. If Apple then generates that amount of electricity and feeds it into the grid they can say that their stores are powered by green energy. No one can control where the electrons used by a light are generated (unless Apple creates its own Power transmission grid that only feeds its stores) so this is the next best thing.

Like I get to charge my car from my PV Array + a bit from the grid. When the charging is done, I feed power back into the grid.
My Electric meter has moved forward less than 10KWh since the start of the month. I've charged my car 11 times in that period.
 
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This is a great goal to have and one that more manufacturers should have. However, what I find funny is that people will openly support this and say how great it is, but if it means an initial rise in costs of products, they will be furious.
 
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When I've seen recycling, be in plastics, metal, even glass bottles. I've seen they use a percentage of old material, and also add in an amount of fresh.

A bit like, well, you can use just SO MUCH recycled, but you need a good percentage of the clean fresh new to make a good product.

Do you think Apple mean (and this is a BIG difference here and is word-play

They will totally use materials that are manufactured (in the metal/glass foundry's) from 100% recycled material

Or the raw material will ALL contain a percentage of recycled material in the mix.

Can one, for example call it Recycled Glass. If the process needs 30% fresh clean glass in the mix?
 
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Simple great Apple, thanks! I think is quite impossible to be near to 70% of recycled materials but more the better.
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Gluing everything together instead of allowing easier repairs (and recycling and upgrades for the Mac etc) is a huge waste.
It is very easy to think this way as a nerd. But unofficial shops, simple costumers who try to open their devices and doing damages are wastes too and this happens every day. Device should not be opened by everyone. After years of work in support center I totally agree with apple, much more better don't have repairable thins, recycle and give thanks to hardware and software a great life to the device.
 
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