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I interviewed recently at Apple, honestly was not impressed with much. The hiring manager came off a bit unprofessional and inexperienced. They're all about coming into work the old school way, no remote flexibility due to their culture of secrecy. Who knows what it would be like on the 'inside'. I think that will be their downfall, in the Bay Area and many other places, no one wants to commute if they can help it. Many many other great companies to work for, with better perks.
 
The company I work for is #6 on the Fortune 500. We do over $200B in revenues in a year. The only free stuff we get is tea and coffee in the break room. We don’t get free snacks or meals and if we want Starbucks we pay for it. Is it just a Silicon Valley thing to expect all this free stuff from the company you work for?

Dunno about other Silicon Valley companies, but my friend works as a corporate lawyer for Google and all their meals are free.
 
Trying to enforce a PC culture does not bring out the best in your workforce.

I haven’t read how these statistics are fully compiled, but I’d have to think that you identified a huge kernel of truth here. Though I disagreed with Jobs on much of his social outlook on life, and though I know he could be difficult to work with/for, one of the things I admired most about his approach to leading Apple was his focus on making great stuff. Period. He didn’t feel like it was always his place to drag a company that represented people from all walks of life through his own personal political agenda.

For Cook, if you don’t subscribe to his particular philosophy regarding gender politics, or illegal immigration, etc., how WOULD you enjoy the atmosphere? By listening to the CEO, there’s only room for one outlook on American life at the company.
 
If it’s not accurate, it’s not important. It doesn’t matter if it’s the only site. Bad information is worse than none.
One would suppose accuracy estimates could be statistically adjusted if sufficient data was collected from the respondents, adjusting statistically for false inputs and information. This is how proper polling data is analyzed in various arenas, political polling being the most common. Bad information might be worse than none, but a preponderance of good information trumps outlying faulty data.
 
I don’t think I’ve ever read a thread with so much complaining about a company trying to hire people that aren’t white males.
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One would suppose accuracy estimates could be statistically adjusted if sufficient data was collected from the respondents, adjusting statistically for false inputs and information. This is how proper polling data is analyzed in various arenas, political polling being the most common. Bad information might be worse than none, but a preponderance of good information trumps outlying faulty data.

Yes. If it’s mostly true, it’s better than nothing. But this poll says people would rather work at a fast food company and a company that has fired over 30k people in the past three years than Apple.

I question it.
 
I visited Apple's campus in SF a few months ago (during WWDC) and met up with a designer who had worked there for over a year.

I was surprised to learn that his work phone was an old scrappy iPhone 5C, and that workers at Apple are never prioritized for getting the latest gear to do their work on.

We headed over to Café Macs where I was again surprised to see that every worker had to pay for a simple coffee, as if it would have been a commercial café. I would have expected free snacks, drinks, coffee and meals for working at such a successful company and I don't understand the nickel-and-diming here. I know that the work culture in the US is a bit different than where I'm from (Sweden), but it really tarnished my idea of Apple as a "magical/amazing" place to work at. It felt very cold and big-corporate. In contrast, I've visited the Spotify HQ here in Stockholm and you have access to free coffee, snacks, nuts, protein bars, catered meals, salads, sandwiches, drinks, sodas, energy drinks, etc 24/7 at no charge, you get the latest mid-high specced Macbook Pro and iPhone Plus/X, etc.

I don't understand why the wealthiest company in the world can't supply proper tools and coffee & snacks to the people on which their success is built on. Maybe these are silly remarks. But it really gave me the feeling that working at Apple is not a very great experience and that you're not really cared for as an employee.

Whilst my direct experience is not the same as yours, I can recognise what you say. I have visited Intel facilities around the world and incidentally Facebook facilities in Sweden and in all occasions I have really impressed with the culture of these organisations and whilst I can never totally put my finger on what is exactly making everything tick, I am always left with the impression that folks really enjoyed their work / workplace, overwhelmingly in the Facebook facility - the place was absolutely “buzzing”
 
Diversity how? In hiring? In the customers they serve? How does a company being a diverse and equitable workplace upset an employee?

The second stringers are looking at the end of white privilege and wondering how they will get by based on skills alone.

They are terrified that their lack of skills will cost them their jobs.
 
Last time I looked a month or so ago, engineering position reviews seemed to be about half "I love it", and half "you will have no personal life" :)

Isn't the "you will have no personal life" a given for any technical or engineering position across the tech industry?
 
I'm sorry, I just don't believe slinging burgers at In-N-Out, regardless of how tasty they may be, is better than working at Apple even with all its faults.
 
Have you ever worked at Apple?

I bet you haven’t. You’re not talking from experience. PC culture has zero to do with why they are where they are. Relentless seeking of profits, demanding employees work holidays instead of hiring more people, people never getting the raise they deserve because of quotas, lack of upward mobility, hiring from outside their stores for management positions, lack luster products that cost a fortune for employees to purchase and so many more reasons are why they are where they are.

PC culture is not why they are down.

So, yet another Apple Retail employee chimes in with an opinion about what it's really like to work at Apple. As someone who worked in Cupertino doing Cupertino stuff, I assure you that the Apple you work for, and the Apple I worked for, are not the same company, culturally. It would behoove you to step off your soapbox, as it really isn't as elevated a position as you seem to believe it is.
 
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I haven’t read how these statistics are fully compiled, but I’d have to think that you identified a huge kernel of truth here. Though I disagreed with Jobs on much of his social outlook on life, and though I know he could be difficult to work with/for, one of the things I admired most about his approach to leading Apple was his focus on making great stuff. Period. He didn’t feel like it was always his place to drag a company that represented people from all walks of life through his own personal political agenda.

For Cook, if you don’t subscribe to his particular philosophy regarding gender politics, or illegal immigration, etc., how WOULD you enjoy the atmosphere? By listening to the CEO, there’s only room for one outlook on American life at the company.

That is true of all companies. From what I have seen, "PC" means that everyone is treated like white males are treated.

As one middle aged white male to another - get over it. The days of white privilege are over.
 
I bet a lot of reviews come from Apple’s retail positions. Not an entirely fair comparison, I’d say.

Excuse me, are retail employees working for a different company? The title says working for apple, and as far as I'm concerned, when you work at an apple store you ARE working for apple.
 
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Of course! The only time any ranking system, analyst or other entity is right is when they are ranking some positive aspect of something and puts Apple #1. If Apple is not #1, the entity doing the placement is entirely wrong, taking payola, suspect and so on.

We'll even readily flip flop faulting an entity when Apple is not #1 and praising them and/or offering them up as examples in other threads when the same ranks Apple #1. Consumer Reports is one that is particularly standout if anyone knows how they work. They are so right when they are praising Apple and so wrong/suspect/"need to alter their methodology" (more favorable to Apple) when they are panning something from Apple... or even not ranking that something #1 with mostly praise.

We are consistent about this in all threads. Is it a rule? ;)

It’s in the fine print.
 
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These rankings should be taken with a grain of salt, even when they are good.

"Proprietary algorithm" is code for "we don't know and take our best guess to represent the voices of thousands of people."

It's a pretty intense algorithm. Source - I work at Glassdoor.
 
What's the ranking for Glassdoor? This is another non-useful ranking like best place to live, best pizza, etc. If there was that large of a change in ranking, up or down, there's probably an issue in your methodology to begin with.
 
It’s in the fine print.

With patents are only valid when they work FOR Apple. Else the patent system is broken and needs reform?

And "99% don't want/need" when whatever the subject is not available from Apple? But when Apple does get around to adding it, then apparently everybody must have it?

And rationalizing such collective flip flops by "Apple isn't first but they wait to get it right"?

etc?

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I don't think anyone takes Consumer Reports seriously.

I take Consumer Reports seriously. There one of the few left that adhere to objective standards, not even taking advertising revenue to do their thing. When I want to buy something they rate, they are one of the first things I check to find a good one.
 
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It's a pretty intense algorithm. Source - I work at Glassdoor.
I'm sure Glassdoor has done a lot of self validation of their methods. It might be a pretty algorithm, but it's inherently hard to draw any conclusions with any confidence for such a broad question. Glassdoor says my company sucks and I think it's great.
 
Apparently, Tim Cook advertising Apple's high morality on every occasion and subject, thinks (or pretends...) different.
Again, their agreement with Hon Hai doesn't mean they are a low morals company. It's business. Hon Hai exists for the very job Apple hires them to perform. And Apple doesn't determine the cost of labor at Hon Hai or in China.

Furthermore, the kind of skills and number of people Apple needs to do the job required DOES NOT EXIST outside of Asia. Period.

So for the people wanting Americans to assemble iPhones....not going to happen and it's not only because it would cost too much. We simply can't do it here.
 
Is Glassdoor that important? I’ve nevet used it. Do many people here use it?

I've used it to evaluate my potential employer(s) before and I must say they are fairly reliable. I just wish that I had paid more attention to it when I joined my current employer.
 
Most of you talk about the Engineers but thins about all the people on the shop floor. Did they not use to get really good christmas gift but then suddenly last year only got a T-shirt and a motivational quote? Small things like that matter.

It’s retail, any idiot off the street can work that job. It’s a nice gesture to be given nice gifts or bonuses for holidays, but it shouldn’t be expected in those positions.
 
With patents are only valid when they work FOR Apple. Else the patent system is broken and needs reform?

And "99% don't want/need" when whatever the subject is not available from Apple? But when Apple does get around to adding it, then apparently everybody must have it?

And rationalizing such collective flip flops by "Apple isn't first but they wait to get it right"?

etc?

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I take Consumer Reports seriously. There one of the few left that adhere to objective standards, not even taking advertising revenue to do their thing. When I want to buy something they rate, they are one of the first things I check to find a good one.
Of course you think it's good if you check Consumer Reports to find something.
 
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