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....Apple are not satisfied with what they can do in the Netbook category. It's a nascent category with "not a lot of them being sold". .....

Oh, really??


(From Amazon, now - 3 of the top 5 are netbooks (and the other 2 are Apple!))
 

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Geez, where is everybody?

:p I figured all the hard-core Apple-istas would be glued to this financial report thread. Only three pages so far? :D
 
iPhone sales...

I can't stress enough the schadenfreude swelling up in me for the iPhone bashers who listed deal-breaker after deal-breaker of missing or improperly functioning features and predicted no one would buy such a loser of a product. Those Nobel Prize winning, armchair wizards of consumerism are always good for a laugh. Will we see these self-appointed marketing experts returning here to post their mea culpa for being so completely wrong in their assessments? Hell no they won't, of course. After they lick their wounds for a day or two they'll be back at it pontificating about how the iPhone needs this or that to succeed and how the android phones will kill the iPhone. Why not through in the headless, cheap, beige box Mac they insist is needed for Apple to survive too, just for good luck.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

What a pack of losers!
 
And in the cell phone market, they are competitors.

Well then let's compare total phones sold. As an example: Nokia sold over 115 million phones in Q1/2008, LG has sold over 27 million phones in Q2/2008 (LG's goal is 100 million in 2008). And LG isn't even in Job's revenue list.
 
Steve Jobs: Netbook market, wait and see.

No doubt Apple has some cool toys in the can that they can whip out as the market changes.

I can see Apple waiting until the next round of technologies (OLED screens, their ARM-based SoC designs, wireless USB, etc.) mature to introduce a new product category.
 
Oh, I agree with you that they are in different sub-markets, but they are both in the larger category of the cell phone market as a whole. And in the cell phone market, they are competitors.

I think there is a certain degree of overlap. Apple is taking away _some_ customers from RIM right now, and it will get worse for RIM.
 
Well then let's compare total phones sold. As an example: Nokia sold over 115 million phones in Q1/2008, LG has sold over 27 million phones in Q2/2008 (LG's goal is 100 million in 2008). And LG isn't even in Job's revenue list.

LG was fifth or sixth. After Sony-Erikson, in front of RIM, and all behind Nokia, Samsung and Apple in revenues in the September quarter.
 
"And $25 billion of cash safely in the bank with zero debt."

Is that typical of most corporations, or is that high? How many corporations have around this much socked away?
 
It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. Apple only makes an All-In-One desktop with decent specs at a reasonable price. Not everyone wants an All-In-One period.

So Steve trots out this canard about 2/3 of the Macs are notebooks as if it is justification for not having a decent headless Mac. The reason that notebook Macs are 2/3 of sales is because there is a hole in the lineup! The rest of the industry is not 2/3 notebooks. Sure notebooks now lead but not 2 to 1.

So...basically what you're saying is that YOU know how to run Apple better than Jobs does...do I understand that correctly?!:rolleyes:
 
"And $25 billion of cash safely in the bank with zero debt."

Is that typical of most corporations, or is that high? How many corporations have around this much socked away?

Not many. Quite a few companies are hemorrhaging money right now.

Don
 
I can't stress enough the schadenfreude swelling up in me for the iPhone bashers who listed deal-breaker after deal-breaker of missing or improperly functioning features and predicted no one would buy such a loser of a product. Those Nobel Prize winning, armchair wizards of consumerism are always good for a laugh. Will we see these self-appointed marketing experts returning here to post their mea culpa for being so completely wrong in their assessments? Hell no they won't, of course. After they lick their wounds for a day or two they'll be back at it pontificating about how the iPhone needs this or that to succeed and how the android phones will kill the iPhone. Why not through in the headless, cheap, beige box Mac they insist is needed for Apple to survive too, just for good luck.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

What a pack of losers!

It must get embarrassing to be wrong so regularly. I have no idea why they bother.

up 10.32% after hours :)
 
It must get embarrassing to be wrong so regularly. I have no idea why they bother.

up 10.32% after hours :)
So what is this "after hours" thing anyway? Does it mean the mesh shirt guys went home and the real traders continued using automatic trading?
 
we are all still listening to the questions Steve is answering...

Yep, same here too. But that didn't mean a thing a week ago because this place was hopping the entire time. I was reading the Ars and Gizmodo feeds and hanging out in here. Thankfully it was a slow day in the office for the first time in months.

A good point was brought up about RIM's customer base being largely of the upgrade route and not necessarily new customers. I gotta agree with the caller's assertion that this only makes the iPhone's sales performance that much more impressive. I went through two 'Berries myself before defecting to an iPhone, FINALLY.
 
Jobs asked to elaborate on "extraordinary opportunities for companies with cash". Dodges the question.
 
Watch that switch next quarter :)

I don't think so. RIM sells primarily to businesses and many have exhausted their budgets by the 4th quarter while Apple sells to consumers and xmas is coming!!
 
$25B in cash and no debts... up from $19B...

And Notebooks went up in price because?! Not truly impressed, but good to see they aren't feeling the credit crunch too bad.

Apple raised MacBook prices to make room for a 799$ 3G NetBook :p
 
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