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The 9:42AM is the standard time that Apple uses on all their iPhone images and video demos. There is actually a value in the SpringBoard plist (SBFakeTime) that when set displays that instead of the real time for just this reason. As far as where 9:42 came from it is approximately the time during the MacWorld 2007 keynote that the iPhone was unveiled.

The 12:32 is just the time that the NYT was updated.

Another fun little Apple and "time of day" number factoid. Look on any Mac box (iMac, MacBook Pro) and the time listed on the screen shot on the box is the version of OS X that is came installed, ie. 10:53 or 10:46 for 10.5.3 and 10.4.6 respectively.

You really are a Fountain of Knowledge aren't you Chris... I would have never noticed that lol

Thanks alot for clearing that up :D
 
Why in the WORLD is this guy throwing his hands around?! He's worse than my three year old ADD son. :mad:
 
You really are a Fountain of Knowledge aren't you Chris... I would have never noticed that lol

Thanks alot for clearing that up :D

No problem! Just shows the sometimes strange and odd attention to detail that Apple has.

This is just the stuff I pick up from reading to much. ;)
 
That guy is so damn creepy. Can't they do someone else? He's been one of the weirdest parts of EVERY ONE of these videos.

Not to be sexist but I think it'd be nice if it was a girl. Or Steve Jobs! Or just about anyone with charisma.

I Know, right! Using a female demonstrator would be much more appealing to listen to. This guy is like a cross between Ben Stein and Kermit the Frog with a little perv thrown in!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D lol But it's cool to see an actual video of the new iPhone cause the 360 and the gallery photos look like mock-ups.....
 
I somehow get the impression that all the comments about creepiness are coming from fat sweaty creepy nerds with Cheetos residue on their neck beards and fingers sitting in their parents basement typing away.

In real life, I've noticed the people who spend all of their time talking about how creepy other people are tend to be creepy or ugly themselves and like to pick on average people to make themselves feel better.

How you act can dramatically change how others perceive you. What makes someone ugly to me has more to do with how they treat others rather than their appearance.

No obesity, parent's basement, sweat, or Cheetos residue here. Even though i partially agree with you, you are kind of breaking your own rule by saying that. Still, you can't deny that that guy is creepy.......
 
That guy either has a really long neck and disproportionate head size, or his is composited onto a body. I would put my money on the later, if you look close, his neck is a little soft around the edges, and movements don't seem to replicate real life.

It looks like his neck is tracked to the upper body, and his neck/face kinda floats around and bobs unnaturally.

I've watched the previous video before and instantly when I first watched this one, it just looked a little off. just my 2 cents.

Also at the close up of him clicking the headphones remote, the shirt collar doesn't match the one he is wearing.
 
Yeah I wouldn't say creepy.

You need to have some sort of charisma or presence to be creepy, he's more like some sort of corporate android. :)

.. I'm not saying they should have someone who'd distract from the iphone, but someone who can make the video be less boring would be nice. He was completely non-emotive.
 
I cannot wait to buy some games with this phone! I was tired of being jealous of my friends' mobiles. They had games; I did not and I had an iPhone! Ohh, I wonder if someone made a Tetris-like game. :eek:
 
10 minutes? It was more like 30. Still loved it! Btw, I met the guy in that video at this years MacWorld :D
 
i made this up

He makes very tightly controlled, unnatural movements, as if he has read somewhere that each particular flinch is going to reach out to people and help convey his point.

Listen, you can't blame Bob for that. Here's the deal. We were all set to film this vid at Apple's office at Bubb 8, in an empty space the retail group has. Filming in-house is ideal, especially for a small vid like this. Everyone is more comfortable, deadlines are a little more relaxed, it's cheaper, you don't have to bring in craft services, etc. So we borrowed a couple videographers from media and they brought some people and a whole setup over to the space. The backdrop was hung, the lights were setup, they even had the sound all ready to go. So we're waiting. Bob is always early to EVERYTHING, but now he's late... like 10 minutes late. This seems small until you consider that six very busy people are wasting their time doing nothing.

So finally he walks in, trailed by this snippy guy "Curt" from branding (think the maitre d' from Ferris Bueller's Day Off). Bob is not smiling. Snippy guy: "Folks, we're not going to try and half-ass this. We're grown-ups now. I've arranged a shoot at Chiat." Total silence, but everyone is furious. These people are pros and they were helping us out from the kindness of their hearts. The worst part though is that apparently this a**clown, who none of us have seen before, talks to everyone like that with impunity. Bob says zilch. Connie, who everyone looks to, says nothing either. I start to get some dirty looks from the guys too, now that we've just wasted their lunch breaks for nothing. So we pack it up and dismiss our impromptu crew.

When we get to Curt's "shoot" absolutely nothing is ready. He pretends to be all upset about it like it's the studio's fault, but basically he did the booking all wrong. Two hours later, after choosing the overkill option on everything, we're ready to shoot. Bob starts. Literally two sentences into his dialog, Curt yells "CUT!" One important thing to know at this point is that we don't shoot like a movie. We're doing this stuff on DV and we shoot for the edit. The director/producer might casually say cut and give the talent a count, but we're always rolling and we can do a lot in the editing booth. The idea is the keep things going smoothly and if we hit a bump, we go back a little and start again. Anyway, Curt wants Bob to enunciate more. This is ridiculous because as always Bob is speaking clearly and crisply. A few more minutes go by and Curt belts out another "CUT!" This time he wants more hand movements.

Up to this point he's just been obnoxious and controlling. But going forward it starts to get weird. Curt turns into the hand movement junkie. And he's getting specific about what he wants. At one point he actually bumps Bob out of the way and stands in front of the camera furiously flailing his hands around. He wants Bob to "puuush" the info to the audience. Nevermind that the hand movements he wants are typically interpreted as defensive. Watch the final video without sound. It's like he's saying "Woah, I didn't eat your sandwiches." Anyway I'm trying to control my laughter as I notice just about everyone else giving me looks. The studio manager is watching too and starts making comments in a not-too-under-his-breath way.

I can tell Bob just wants to get this over with, and that for some reason he just has to hold his tongue. I have no idea who Curt knows, but he's apparently got some clout. Finally we get done with the stand up footage and it's time to shoot the screens. Curt has to get a latte, "so let's take 10 everyone." The second he's gone we start working at top speed to get the setup done and start rolling. We don't even really take the time to laugh. We can tell he wants to turn this into a two day shoot. BTW Bob isn't the hand... at least not that Bob. "Hand Bob" is another good guy and when he starts doing his thing he is so on-task that we got through the script two times and shot some coverage in other apps before Curt made it back with his latte, which incidentally looked more like a giant sundae.

I had to go to a metrics meeting a few days later when they did the post production meeting, but I heard Curt was a nightmare in that too. Basically I just wanted to point out the fact that the jazz hands and robot-face are not Bob's fault. Bob is a really nice guy and I've worked with him for most of the time he's been at Apple. He is the last person you'd think of as creepy if you met him.
 
I'm glad this it's not just me who thinks that these people they pick for the guided tours are weird.

And what's with the black clothing?

This is the uniform of the Apple high priesthood. Foot soldiers have to wear t-shirts with OS X or Apple emblazoned on them. The higher up the church you get, the less that is printed until ultimately it's just the plain black shirt with lots of white neck showing.
 
Listen, you can't blame Bob for that. Here's the deal. We were all set to film this vid at Apple's office at Bubb 8, in an empty space the retail group has. Filming in-house is ideal, especially for a small vid like this. Everyone is more comfortable, deadlines are a little more relaxed, it's cheaper, you don't have to bring in craft services, etc. So we borrowed a couple videographers from media and they brought some people and a whole setup over to the space. The backdrop was hung, the lights were setup, they even had the sound all ready to go. So we're waiting. Bob is always early to EVERYTHING, but now he's late... like 10 minutes late. This seems small until you consider that six very busy people are wasting their time doing nothing.

So finally he walks in, trailed by this snippy guy "Curt" from branding (think the maitre d' from Ferris Bueller's Day Off). Bob is not smiling. Snippy guy: "Folks, we're not going to try and half-ass this. We're grown-ups now. I've arranged a shoot at Chiat." Total silence, but everyone is furious. These people are pros and they were helping us out from the kindness of their hearts. The worst part though is that apparently this a**clown, who none of us have seen before, talks to everyone like that with impunity. Bob says zilch. Connie, who everyone looks to, says nothing either. I start to get some dirty looks from the guys too, now that we've just wasted their lunch breaks for nothing. So we pack it up and dismiss our impromptu crew.

When we get to Curt's "shoot" absolutely nothing is ready. He pretends to be all upset about it like it's the studio's fault, but basically he did the booking all wrong. Two hours later, after choosing the overkill option on everything, we're ready to shoot. Bob starts. Literally two sentences into his dialog, Curt yells "CUT!" One important thing to know at this point is that we don't shoot like a movie. We're doing this stuff on DV and we shoot for the edit. The director/producer might casually say cut and give the talent a count, but we're always rolling and we can do a lot in the editing booth. The idea is the keep things going smoothly and if we hit a bump, we go back a little and start again. Anyway, Curt wants Bob to enunciate more. This is ridiculous because as always Bob is speaking clearly and crisply. A few more minutes go by and Curt belts out another "CUT!" This time he wants more hand movements.

Up to this point he's just been obnoxious and controlling. But going forward it starts to get weird. Curt turns into the hand movement junkie. And he's getting specific about what he wants. At one point he actually bumps Bob out of the way and stands in front of the camera furiously flailing his hands around. He wants Bob to "puuush" the info to the audience. Nevermind that the hand movements he wants are typically interpreted as defensive. Watch the final video without sound. It's like he's saying "Woah, I didn't eat your sandwiches." Anyway I'm trying to control my laughter as I notice just about everyone else giving me looks. The studio manager is watching too and starts making comments in a not-too-under-his-breath way.

I can tell Bob just wants to get this over with, and that for some reason he just has to hold his tongue. I have no idea who Curt knows, but he's apparently got some clout. Finally we get done with the stand up footage and it's time to shoot the screens. Curt has to get a latte, "so let's take 10 everyone." The second he's gone we start working at top speed to get the setup done and start rolling. We don't even really take the time to laugh. We can tell he wants to turn this into a two day shoot. BTW Bob isn't the hand... at least not that Bob. "Hand Bob" is another good guy and when he starts doing his thing he is so on-task that we got through the script two times and shot some coverage in other apps before Curt made it back with his latte, which incidentally looked more like a giant sundae.

I had to go to a metrics meeting a few days later when they did the post production meeting, but I heard Curt was a nightmare in that too. Basically I just wanted to point out the fact that the jazz hands and robot-face are not Bob's fault. Bob is a really nice guy and I've worked with him for most of the time he's been at Apple. He is the last person you'd think of as creepy if you met him.

Is this post legit? Do we actually have people who are working for and/or with Apple on these Forums??

If so that's cool and I'm sure that answered a lot of peoples questions anyhow if it is accurate.
 
Is this post legit? Do we actually have people who are working for and/or with Apple on these Forums??

If so that's cool and I'm sure that answered a lot of peoples questions anyhow if it is accurate.
Apple do check the forums from time to time. Occasionally if someone posts a photo of a new product before it's released, Apple get their lawyers onto it.

But that guy who posted about the Apple video didn't indicate that he worked for Apple at all - just a production company.

And it still doesn't explain why the presenter (who I am sure is a nice guy) keeps trying to show us how big the fish was that he caught last weekend. ;) Although I know what it's like - I remember doing a speech years ago, and apparently my hand gestures looked like I was imitating a windmill.
 
But that guy who posted about the Apple video didn't indicate that he worked for Apple at all - just a production company.

Clues: post title (!), posting history, post content... .

Curt says nighty night.
 
I don't think this is Apple's problem to deal with, in any case. Apple is not a mapmaking company, nor have they ever developed GPS navigation software. Google has a Map feature which can be accessed through the iPhone, but was never intended to be a turn-by-turn navigation program. So, for now, the ball's in Google's court; will they get this going on the iPhone or not?

If Google doesn't do it, it's only a matter of time before TomTom or Magellan or someone else makes an App for the iPhone with this feature.

Didn't say it was, just addressing some of these misplaced comments in this thread...
 
Apple do check the forums from time to time. Occasionally if someone posts a photo of a new product before it's released, Apple get their lawyers onto it.

But that guy who posted about the Apple video didn't indicate that he worked for Apple at all - just a production company.

And it still doesn't explain why the presenter (who I am sure is a nice guy) keeps trying to show us how big the fish was that he caught last weekend. ;) Although I know what it's like - I remember doing a speech years ago, and apparently my hand gestures looked like I was imitating a windmill.

Ahh that is true.

And yeah, when you do a speech you do tend to forget about the hands, but this shouldn't be an issue for someone working for the company... (I think whoever it is, Bob? working for iPhone product development or summin') should have more experience doing speeches or presentations and knowing what to do with his hands and that.
 
I am sick of the black shirts Jobs and the guy in the 'how to' videos. It's getting quite old. Other than that, I'm excited to get the iphone.:)
 
TomTom is already reaching the end of development for their app for the iPhone:

http://gizmodo.com/5016378/tomtom-on-the-iphone-may-not-be-completely-dead

I know I can't wait to sell my TomTom and have an all-in-one

Thnks for the link.
... " Lafargue confirmed that there was a version of TomTom software running on the iPhone but he does not know if they will ever actually ship the product. You would think that the major reason for not shipping would be the clause in the SDK agreement that states "applications may not be designed or marketed for real time route guidance,..."

I wonder if this was added at the request of AT&T and other carriers so they can eventually charge us even more for their own GPS Navigation service.
 
lol, yeah, this guy is sooo weird. nobody acts like that in real life. and why is he dressed like steve jobs.
 
Anyone else thinks he loses his sex appeal when he's on a white background? :p

Seriously though how did they manage to drag that on for 10 minutes their isn't a whole lot of new stuff the big thing coming is the app store because that will define the iPhones.
 
Copy And Paste??????

WIlLL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY THERE iS STILLLLLLLL NO COPY AND PASTE??????? PLEASE?
 
I have to say--this thread has really given me a good laugh. I especially enjoyed iDork 2.0 and patsfan83's post about Bob's unnatural movements (which I agree with--something is off there).

The video was informative but still boring. I can't believe he dragged it on for 38 minutes. Anyways, it's a good video for new iPhone owners to watch--it teaches you all the tricks you need to know to use iPhone efficiently. The what's new video was a lot better for people who have already owned an iPhone.

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