Apple Posts January 2010 Media Event QuickTime Stream

[NAG]

And I'm not the only one. I tech multimedia at several Universities over here and for as long as I can recall Quicktime streaming has never "just worked" the way it does with other streaming technologies and I've tried it from a host of different machines from ye old eMacs, G5s, Mac Pros, iMacs, PCs of every kind. Of course most of that was trying to use streams from other countries, but that shouldn't matter. I'd go as far to compare it to Windows Media Format streaming which falls on it's face just as often as Apple's technology seems to.

The only time I've ever had problems with Quicktime streaming was with respect to port numbers. Otherwise it was fine. It really sounds the "that shouldn't matter" comment is what is actually causing the problem. If the stream isn't compressed enough and you're trying to stream from say, Japan to America, then yeah you're going to have a heck of a time getting it to buffer well.

 

[xDYLANx]

I always wait a few days for the HD version. It's really hard though.

 

[Padriac]

Saying "Quicktime is great" because you don't have issues is unfounded from my perspective. I have zero issues with any most other online video technologies except QuickTime streams (and WIndows Media streams, they're rubbish too), and it happens on my Windows 7 desktop and My OS 10.6 Macbook Pro.

I can watch the Quicktime video of the iPad commercial/video on Apple's site perfectly but the stream of the keynote play 2 seconds of audio then just stop, yet it keeps leeching data from apple servers according to my network monitoring tool.

And I'm not the only one. I tech multimedia at several Universities over here and for as long as I can recall Quicktime streaming has never "just worked" the way it does with other streaming technologies and I've tried it from a host of different machines from ye old eMacs, G5s, Mac Pros, iMacs, PCs of every kind. Of course most of that was trying to use streams from other countries, but that shouldn't matter. I'd go as far to compare it to Windows Media Format streaming which falls on it's face just as often as Apple's technology seems to.

Alas this is getting totally divergent to what the thread ought to be about - it's just at times like this the failure of QT streams and Apple's lack of live video technologies really gets under my skin. I mean - 2010 - shouldn't they be streaming this stuff live by now?

I'm not trying to generalize, but I'm pretty confident Apple's streams get hammered MUCH more than the others you're referring to. So it could be Quicktime or simple traffic. If you try the stream in a week do you still get the same problems. Because, as I and others have pointed out, not everybody is having your problems.

 

[Swampfoot]

QuickTime Streaming

All I can say is, on the day of an Apple Event, as soon as the stream link is posted on the Apple website, the QT stream has NEVER worked for me until at least the next day. Barely plays at all and you have to give up.

Never.

Why the frack can't they post it to the videocasts section of itunes and be done with it? Or better yet just use frigging flash in the browser like everyone else.

 

[DeepCobalt]

One word comes to mind folks...

maxiPad
For that time of the month​

 

[DeepCobalt]

Has anybody heard if there is going to be an educational discount?

Students carry one iPad with 10 different books, interactive books, with them at all times. This could revolutionize text books!

THIS is where Apple should be positioning the device. But for students, the price point is a bit high. Otherwise, this is a revolutionary application for the product.

 

[ARF900]

Until about 20 minutes had passed into this I was almost expecting him to just drop the thing off the stage say "SIKE" and demo "the real iPad".... no joke

Jobs is one of the best business men of all time, but this was probably his biggest fail.

 

[akadmon]

Well, if Steve thought he'll be able to roll over and die after this, I've got news for him: you gonna have to suffer us a lihel longa! Looks like the chemo musta damaged his sense of "wow", 'cos frankly... IPad = iDud

 

[boombashi]

This stream is working for me in Quicktime 7. Quicktime 10 on Snow Leopard is not working for some reason.

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/1001q3f8hhr/1001908r5ft6dswz_1_350_ref.mov

 

[HLdan]

I'm having so much fun reading all these negative responses from these Windows-lovin' Fanboys. If this device was created by Dell or HP or even if Microsoft decided to make it they would be laughing at Apple for not thinking of it first, AND they would be saying that "It's the best device ever made, why didn't Apple think of this"????

If this device isn't for YOU, go get a Kindle for $489, it has about 1% of the features of the iPad for about the same price. If this device isn't for YOU, go get a PC tablet with a clunky Windows 7 desktop UI.

 

[Antaios]

The iPad is not designed or marketed for the Technorati. This is not designed to be a Tablet Mac. This is an INFORMATION DEVICE for adults. A serious adult is not going to use an iPod Touch, it's too small and tedious to zoom in, pinch and stretch. An iPod Touch is seen as a novelty item for kids and young adults or an iPod that does some 'other' stuff. This is an INFORMATION DELIVERING DEVICE for everyone who doesn't want to be stuck in contract with at&t and pay $30 a month. This is for everyone else who can now receive information on the EASIEST platform to use without the restrictions of the iPhone (at&t & contract) and the limitations of the Touch ( small, childlike-toy) This is truly a new product that is INSANELY familar to the Technorati but new to a WHOLE new market....

 

[MajorTCS]

A Waterproof iPad?

It would be useful to use in the bathroom and/or pool. For camping, sailing or any other outdoor pursuit.

 

[Terry W]

What's funny is Steve Jobs actually CALLS the iPad an iPod at 29:30ish on stage at the Keynote: "So that's a little bit of an overview of the iPOD's hardware."

Noticed that too! Validates what a stupid decision it was to name it iPad...

 

[MikhailT]

THIS is where Apple should be positioning the device. But for students, the price point is a bit high. Otherwise, this is a revolutionary application for the product.

Textbooks are never going to be cheaper, not if the publishers will set the prices. Students will pirate it instead..



Actually, Safari Books Online will be frigging excellent on iPad for the IT students. That's one of the reason I would consider getting an iPad.

 

[StoneyG]

wasn't this up a while ago? im like at the 20 min mark

To me, this comment 'touches' on the ridiculousness of some people on here/out there. No offense to this fellow or anything, but he makes it sound like 20 minutes is a long time. Hell, in the 80s and 90s, it took a matter of MINUTES to rewind a VHS tape! Fast forward to now, and here we've got people bitching that Apple's latest offering doesn't give them precisely the features THEY want DAMMIT! I'm sure it's not going to be the single best way to serve each and every function that was mentioned in the keynote, but it's gonna do at least a decent job at a lot of things nonetheless. If they added voice capability to it, people would complain that it's a big, awkward, and clunky phone. On the other hand, people may feel that it's unfortunate that you need TWO HANDS to operate it. Obviously there's going to have to be some compromise.

(See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkusicUL2s )

Anyhow. I think it's damn cool, and am hopeful that subsequent revisions of the iPad and iPhone OS, not to mention the further development of 3rd party applications and accessories, will make this thing beyond awesome.

 

[JohnnyQuest]

I have a MBP and an iPhone. Yet, ever since tablet rumors seriously started coming in, it sparked my interest. I wanted a device that I could take everything I loved about my iPhone, and make it bigger and better. Watching these videos and hands-on pictures, I realize that this really could fit into my lifestyle. My 15" isn't exactly the easiest thing to carry around, especially to classes. The iPad takes the technology from the iPhone, and adds ebook and iWork capabilites, as well as improved applications to make it truly seem like cross between a laptop and an iPhone. Of course, there are missing features, and maybe more will be announced before launch (remember YouTube for the iPhone?), but regardless, I think this device would be a pleasure to use, and it's really just the beginning for the iPad.

 

[Gunga Din]

I have a MBP and an iPhone. Yet, ever since tablet rumors seriously started coming in, it sparked my interest. I wanted a device that I could take everything I loved about my iPhone, and make it bigger and better. Watching these videos and hands-on pictures, I realize that this really could fit into my lifestyle. My 15" isn't exactly the easiest thing to carry around, especially to classes. The iPad takes the technology from the iPhone, and adds ebook and iWork capabilites, as well as improved applications to make it truly seem like cross between a laptop and an iPhone. Of course, there are missing features, and maybe more will be announced before launch (remember YouTube for the iPhone?), but regardless, I think this device would be a pleasure to use, and it's really just the beginning for the iPad.

Agreed, at first I was against it, but after working the rest of the day and then watching the video tonight, i've changed my tune.

Seriously, don't keep reading this forums or talking Apple for 3-4 hours, have a beer , watch some TV, then go watch the video fresh.

I think you will look at the device differently when you cool down.

 

[Mr. Gates]

If you have a mbpo and an iphone and can't figure out why you might need this... I am guessing you are not what one might perceive as being bright.

Please : Feel free to Explain !!!!

 

[JohnnyQuest]

Agreed, at first I was against it, but after working the rest of the day and then watching the video tonight, i've changed my tune.

Seriously, don't keep reading this forums or talking Apple for 3-4 hours, have a beer , watch some TV, then go watch the video fresh.

I think you will look at the device differently when you cool down.

Exactly. Everyone was so heated that it was a fairly basic device. But it will only grow from here. I think it a device that covers our day to day needs in a fantastic way.

 

[jkbuster]

THIS is where Apple should be positioning the device. But for students, the price point is a bit high. Otherwise, this is a revolutionary application for the product.

Actually, this isn't too bad. At least at my engineering school, you can easily spend $500 on textbooks for one semester. With a $500 iPad and digital textbooks closer to $100, you could be back saving money within a year or two of school!

I'm planning on seeing if I can not only use it for my textbooks, but for my notes as well.

 

[NetScheduler]

I'm having so much fun reading all these negative responses from these Windows-lovin' Fanboys. If this device was created by Dell or HP or even if Microsoft decided to make it they would be laughing at Apple for not thinking of it first, AND they would be saying that "It's the best device ever made, why didn't Apple think of this"????

If this device isn't for YOU, go get a Kindle for $489, it has about 1% of the features of the iPad for about the same price. If this device isn't for YOU, go get a PC tablet with a clunky Windows 7 desktop UI.

I enjoy waiting for the fanboy lingo to sprout up in posts. So all other products that don't have an Apple on them are "Clunky" huh?? I bet you think they're "Crappy" too, don't you??? Hahahahahaha I bet you think the iPad is "elegant" and "delicious" too???


I love my iPhone and my Macs, but this thing won't do 1% of what my cheap HP netbook will do. Thanks to people like you (who would buy a left nostril inhaler for $500 if Apple produced it), Apple will sell some, but it's not for me (and judging from the reviews in the real world, not too many others are impressed)..

It's not a "game changer" or a "revolutionary device", it's just a blown up iPod touch that runs a bunch of little "applets" and browses the web.

I'll be on a jobsite with my "cheap and Clunky" HP Mini, running Primavera Project Planner, printing engineering drawings out of AutoCad, doing a video conference with Skype, and typing reports in Microsoft office.

Have a nice time sitting at home enjoying your iPad running "Ifart"...

Game changer..

 

[btcutter]

iWorks alone almost make it worth while to buy the iPad. These damn programs are frigging amazing. It's so intuitive and all by multi-jesture. I don't use Microsoft Office....why didn't they think of these things.

 

[kddpop]

The iWork demo is by far the most interesting and telling bit of the whole presentation. This is the stuff that YOU CAN'T DO ON AN IPHONE. And these are for real, productivity apps built from the ground up for a touch interface. It's really remarkable, and shows the potential of the Touch OS.

totally agree. these are the things that make me want to break down and buy. (i will, however, wait until version 2 or 3)
content CREATION is where the future of touch is.

 

[MikhailT]

Actually, this isn't too bad. At least at my engineering school, you can easily spend $500 on textbooks for one semester. With a $500 iPad and digital textbooks closer to $100, you could be back saving money within a year or two of school!

I'm planning on seeing if I can not only use it for my textbooks, but for my notes as well.

But you can't resell those digital textbooks. I almost always sell my books back to classmates or the campus book store and get half or more of the original price back. That's the only issue.

 

[gugy]

I like the iPad, but I understand most folks frustration.

Two things that people might have to be patience.

• Multitasking hopefully will come once iPhone OS 4.0 comes out, probably in July when the iPhone 4g is released.

• Apple is expecting/hoping companies like Adobe. Microsoft, etc will follow suit and create specific apps from their software that work on the iPad. Just like Apple create iWork.

I think once these two things happen it will open this device to a huge amount of professionals and people who are on the fence and frustrated now.

Adding the huge amount of establish developers for the iphone/touch I think this thing has a huge chance to be so successful, but it will take awhile.