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...They need to come out with Snow Leopard already. And they really need to come out with a tablet/netbook thing – their customers have been asking for this for YEARS now and it’s beginning to piss me off that they keep ignoring us. I hope another company like Dell or Lenovo beats them to market with such a device...

They have. Oh, and some can even run OS X. Like Mine. :D

...My thoughts: one of the best keynotes we've had in a while...

You mean like since last year? :rolleyes:

Phil, I have three tips for you for your next conference:

1) Can you find a shirt to tuck in? You look like a slob.
2) Using your mouse pointer does not require a full arm movement when you click.
3) Can you stop saying "it's incredible" before it becomes the new geek drinking game!

LOL! :p

I was hoping to see Mr. Jobs walk on stage at the end. That was the only reason I sat watching the iPhone junk. :(

Very disappointing he wasn't there. Hopefully, he's gained the weight Phil seems to have lost. :apple:
 
Why did people laugh when Scott Forstall said Safari? Also, iPhone 2.0 always had Korean language support and I think even 1.0 also. Why did they say it was a new feature?

they were laughing at how lame ATT is.

earlier, they said MMS wouldn't be on ATT till late summer and you could hear the crowd moan and groan in disappointment.

then, a few minutes later the topic of tethering came up and, again, they announced that ATT was participating yet.

after Apple announced that, they QUICKLY moved on to safari....and the crowd was still sitting in silence and in shock that ATT was screwing us US customers....and then they started to moan/groan/boo when they realized all of this and when apple quickly tried to changed the topic.
 
Apple needs to change their name to Apple iPhone – because that’s all we hear anymore. Granted the 13” MacBook got a little bump and of course we heard more promises about Snow Leopard, but what was the main focus? What seems to always be the main focus? The iPhone blah blah blah.
I’m so sick of the iPhone.
No, I’m not saying that other cell phones are better – truthfully, I really don’t care. I don’t own an iPhone and I don’t want one. I hate cell phones in general. AND I really wouldn’t care so much about the iPhone if Apple could focus on more than one or two projects at a time!
They need to come out with Snow Leopard already. And they really need to come out with a tablet/netbook thing – their customers have been asking for this for YEARS now and it’s beginning to piss me off that they keep ignoring us. I hope another company like Dell or Lenovo beats them to market with such a device.
I’m a fan of the OS and I like my MacBook but Apple as a company is on thin ice with me.

Yeah the constant chatter about Iphones and their bloody Apps does wear a bit thin especially when you have no intention of buying an Iphone/Touch and being shafted by a mobile contract.

I dont like the way Schiller kept stating that the price on the new macbook pro's have dropped when compared to the previous versions....So it should, unless there has been a radical change from the previous versions.

The hardware, namely processor speed is very old hat by the time a refresh comes and the consumers have been getting shafted for under a year buying macbooks with processors that other manufacturers would've dropped months ago, and dont get me started on the Mac Mini.

I'm not sold on Snow Leopard as yet until I see the performance figures so I'll hang fire till then.

Their design of their hardware is pretty unified now across the board (except for the Mac Pro's/Mac Mini's that is), so I would expect the next announcements down the line to be radically redesigned Mac Pro's, Mac Mini's and perhaps the fabled Tablet, all announced by the Messiah, cough.. I mean Steve. Good things are just round the corner.....I hope!
 
Phil's looking alright. A very decent keynote by Phil, Bertrand, Scott and the rest. And it was good to see the spotlight on developers. WWDC is for them, after all.
 
So many different threads to post I'll go with the most recent. Take AT&T out of the picture for a minute, and you have a really nice iPhone upgrade. In my opinion, there were a few main missing features, all of which have been fixed:

1.) MMS
2.) Voice Dial
3.) Nike+ Sensor

I can now (finally) make the switch from Verizon. While I might pay an extra 10-20 a month, it's well worth it for making my life easier (and safer).
 
So many different threads to post I'll go with the most recent. Take AT&T out of the picture for a minute, and you have a really nice iPhone upgrade. In my opinion, there were a few main missing features, all of which have been fixed:

1.) MMS
2.) Voice Dial
3.) Nike+ Sensor

I can now (finally) make the switch from Verizon. While I might pay an extra 10-20 a month, it's well worth it for making my life easier (and safer).

Whatever the issues, AT&T will cave. They need Apple and the iPhone too much. The iPhone made AT&T into what it is today.
 
Been trying the Quicktime stream but keep getting this error…

Frustrating. Seems I will have to wait for the Podcast later.
 

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Brilliant keynote. New notebooks (HA! I say to all those who doubted it), a good look at Snow Leopard (what a beauty) and what's more the Mac CAME FIRST!!!! My faith in Apple has been restored.

As for the iPhone, like 1% of Macrumors I couldn't give a flying, well, you know, so was sadistically happy to see the lack of a decent hardware update.

The Mac is back :D
 
Brilliant keynote. New notebooks (HA! I say to all those who doubted it), a good look at Snow Leopard (what a beauty) and what's more the Mac CAME FIRST!!!! My faith in Apple has been restored.

As for the iPhone, like 1% of Macrumors I couldn't give a flying, well, you know, so was sadistically happy to see the lack of a decent hardware update.

The Mac is back :D

C'mon, you must have known Apple wouldn't leave its biggest moneymaker out in the cold? ;)

I share your enthusiasm! Apple seems to be completely on top of the notebook game.
 
To all you bitchers, all i hear is blah blah blaaah bla blah blah blah blah blaaaah.

This was a stonking update, marred a bit by crappy telcos and having to wait til Sept for SL.

Go get a life, cos you ain't gonna turn any fanbois here. :D
 
Was anyone else disappointed by the speech itself? I mean a lot of it was about Snow leopard and Iphone os3 which have already been covered before. Anyone else notice the speakers had some of the same speech mannerisms as Steve? Guess they have the same coaches.

Yes! That was Insanely Incredible! ;):)
 
I really enjoyed watching this keynote. It was probably Apple's most substantial keynote for some time, perhaps since Macworld 2004. At over 2 hours, it was also Apple's longest keynote since WWDC 2003, which ran for about 2:10:00.

The keynote was at least 20x better than Macworld this year. Phil had to somehow draw out just 3 product announcements to 1.5 hours. At least there was substance to this keynote. Anyone thinking that this keynote was terrible would even admit it was better. What makes a good keynote is the the amount of content and the way it's presented.
 
This is the worst keynote of all time. iPhone 3GS upgrade for 400/500 dollars on top of the monthly plan that charges as though its subsidized? AT&T never ceases to amaze me.

What will never cease to amaze me is people like you who sign a two year contract to get a subsidized phone and that can't believe that they must honor their contract.
 
iPhone Slight...

The S upgrade, I believe, is a partial upgrade..
It seems too minor in my opinion.
I think again they're holding back the bigger upgrades until next year when the tech is ready.... or perhaps not to distract the market from near term future products........MacBook Touch perhaps?
 
Not sure what all the haters are talking about. First, This is WWDC. Second they updated their ENTIRE laptop line AND dropped the price. Education Discount/Free iPod with these babies and it's hard for me to resist an upgrade.

iPhone doesn't have a front facing camera. Kinda disappointing, but I wouldn't put it past Apple to be waiting out this horrible AT&T deal to bring out something special when they stop exclusivity. Sucks for those of us buying the 3GS as we will probably miss next years upgrade (i'm an original iPhone owner - just freaking dropped mine after 2 years of handling it nice).
 
Why did people laugh when Scott Forstall said Safari? Also, iPhone 2.0 always had Korean language support and I think even 1.0 also. Why did they say it was a new feature?

They added the North Korean version....:D
 
laptop vs desktop

My biggest complaint about the keynote was when they said that most people where choosing laptops over desktops.

THAT IS BECAUSE APPLE DOES NOT OFFER A TRADITIONAL CONSUMER DESKTOP LINE!!!!

If Apple offered a line of systems using the i7 quad core "desktop" cpus in systems in the $1200-1800 range, and E7xxx, E8xxx and Q8xxx CPUs in systems in the $600-$1200 range they would certainly close the gap.

But of course Apple isn't interested in the gap. They are happy selling more laptops than desktops. When their "desktop" systems are roughly the same price for the same performance as laptops (because they are using laptop parts), why not buy laptops....
 
This is the worst keynote of all time. iPhone 3GS upgrade for 400/500 dollars on top of the monthly plan that charges as though its subsidized? AT&T never ceases to amaze me.
How many subsidized phones do you think you're worth? You got the 3G at $199, be happy with your phone.

I bought the original 1st generation phone for my wife and I at $499 each (16GB models at least) -- I figure it's OUR turn to get a nice chunk in return, considering I invested about $1150 with tax for ours.

The Keynote was NOT "the wort of all time". It was a solid WWDC. This is for the developers not the public, though there's so many people who are watching Apple, it's just free publicity. Great info about iPhone OS and Snow Leopard OS; Amazing $29 price for Leopard users; really nice updates on laptops with excellent price reductions; Macbook brought into the Pro fold; iPhone 3.0 coming soon and a new iPhone with great new abilities -- all you took away from it was the fact that you'll pay $200 more. Big deal. You'll still have your first 3G phone in your pocket… to either use as an amazing iPod or give to a relative or friend.

People: if you watch keynote, you'll get a lot more out of it then just from any blogger. The info about stuff about to arrive is amazing. Don't get hung up over a couple hundred bucks.

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About AT&T: be as pissed as you want. Do you think Apple is happy with them? This is only good for us as Apple will be trying to get out from under the companies that won't do the things they need to do to keep this whole thing moving as it should: forward.
 
I loved the keynote, can't wait to get my new iPhone and mac os x.
But i don't like the new macbook pros.
I'm forced to buy a 17 inch macbook because of the new SD card slot.
I don't need an SD card slot, because i buy sony cameras (love all sony devices) and they use memory stick(which is faster then SD, or at least on my pc). And for that i need an expresscard slot.
No new laptop for me this year :(
 
All in all, a pretty solid PhilNote. Good updates to the laptop line-up coupled with good price drops was a great way to start the event.

SL looks like a solid upgrade, and at $29 I expect that the overwhelming majority of folks with Leopard running on an Intel will upgrade.

iPhone 3.0 will be a welcome update for most 3G owners who aren't inclined to purchase a 3GS model.

The 3GS is a decent update. Will be better if AT&T ever updates their network to 7.2 and permits tethering.

I really don't understand all the furor over AT&T not letting 3G owners upgrade for cheap. It's not a penalty people. You signed a contract, and the phone subsidy is recouped by AT&T over the 2-yr contract. Why should they sacrifice one iota of their subsidy so you can have a new phone? They are a business (just like Apple), and need to turn a profit for their shareholders.

quityerbitchin:rolleyes:
 
My biggest complaint about the keynote was when they said that most people where choosing laptops over desktops.

THAT IS BECAUSE APPLE DOES NOT OFFER A TRADITIONAL CONSUMER DESKTOP LINE!!!!

If Apple offered a line of systems using the i7 quad core "desktop" cpus in systems in the $1200-1800 range, and E7xxx, E8xxx and Q8xxx CPUs in systems in the $600-$1200 range they would certainly close the gap.

But of course Apple isn't interested in the gap. They are happy selling more laptops than desktops. When their "desktop" systems are roughly the same price for the same performance as laptops (because they are using laptop parts), why not buy laptops....

No.

It's because in the entire industry desktop sales are in the basement.

There is not enough demand for any additional Mac desktops. They'd be a money-loser for Apple.


I really don't understand all the furor over AT&T not letting 3G owners upgrade for cheap. It's not a penalty people. You signed a contract, and the phone subsidy is recouped by AT&T over the 2-yr contract. Why should they sacrifice one iota of their subsidy so you can have a new phone? They are a business (just like Apple), and need to turn a profit for their shareholders.

quityerbitchin:rolleyes:

Correct. It's a CONTRACT.

I'm with Rogers, on a 2-year contract, with an iPhone 3G, started in August of last year. I'm not eligible for a hardware upgrade either. Have to wait a year or else buy the new iPhone outright. I assume if you bitched enough to your carrier they *might* be able to do something for you, but as it stands that isn't policy.

AT&T might cave and throw customers a bone (they might be smart to), but they're really not bound to do that.
 
Did anyone else find the french guy annoying? They do use articles in french too...like he said there are refinements across board.....and when he did say "the" he said "ze" everytime...which I don't get as you would say "le" in French not zee...

I just felt like he should have been doing a cooking show, with huge bowls of chocolate fondue....that's usually when I am accustomed to such cloying accents, it somehow parallels the rich chocolate.
 
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