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Apple Posts WWDC 2009 Keynote Address Quicktime Stream

Lackluster keynote?

Anyone else think that the keynote was pretty boring? New Snow Leopard pricing and macbook updates seem like the winner and iPhone/ATT major losers. I guess Apple didn't promise anything big for the iPhone other than OS 3.0, but I was really looking forward to a matte case, no more gaudy silver bling bezel, and perhaps bigger hardware bumps.
 
It was pretty good,
People want to see a new product or a smaller or more updated look to the iPhone or iMac, and they want flashy presentations, they totally forget the reason this Con is there for..........the Developers. People need to get there heads out from you know where.

:eek:,
Pnut
 
Maybe I missed it

I have been watching apple keynote speeches for a long time and this was average at best. Now I will not call out fanbois but what did I miss?

1)The supposed macbook updates are small and not impressive.
2)The macbook pro 15" did not get discounted--They just took out the graphics card people!!!
3)The macbook pro 13" is the exact same thing with firewire!!
4)Everyone knew the macbook air was overpriced for the hardware. Also those poor bastards that bought one last month or even last week($700 decrease).
4)MacOSX was great and a good price, but is exactly what was expected. If they charged more than $30 bucks for an under the hood upgrade people would go nutz.
5)The iphone was a small update that kept with the exact profit margin I mentioned months ago.
6)They showed off iphone 3.0 months ago!! What was so great?

I hope that they have some more announcements planned for later this year that are worth waiting for.
 
They should have called it the "World Wide iPhone and some other stuff Apple makes. Conference"

Habakuk said:
Nobody needs a front-facing camera only for conceited self portraits or completeley useless video conferences (waste of bandwidth). I never expected it and I am glad that they ignore it.

My two cents about the keynote: Everything stays better :)
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Goto Japan they have been doing Video Conferencing via Cell for years now. Obviously it is us who are extremely behind. I for one would love video conferencing.

PDXoPDX said:
Anyone else think that the keynote was pretty boring? New Snow Leopard pricing and macbook updates seem like the winner and iPhone/ATT major losers. I guess Apple didn't promise anything big for the iPhone other than OS 3.0, but I was really looking forward to a matte case, no more gaudy silver bling bezel, and perhaps bigger hardware bumps.
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I agree. They spent the bulk of the damn keynote on the stupid iPhone. I was looking for more Snow Leopard updates but its obvious that Apple is now a Telecom company first and a computer company second.
 
I was thoroughly disappointed this time around. The macbook news was neat, and makes me want a 13" real bad, but i expected more from SL. I know that apple is making a **** ton of money from the iPhone, but it seems like they are pushing everything else out of the way. They should rename themselves Apple Phone Inc.
 
NoSmokingBandit said:
I was thoroughly disappointed this time around. The macbook news was neat, and makes me want a 13" real bad, but i expected more from SL. I know that apple is making a **** ton of money from the iPhone, but it seems like they are pushing everything else out of the way. They should rename themselves Apple Phone Inc.
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Agree 100% I have been saying this on this site now for months and get flamed for being an Apple Hater or a reverse fan boy. Looks like WWDC has done nothing but prove my suspicions.
 
What about iPod Touch?

Anyone heard about new iPod Touch? I would like to buy a MBP with an iPod Touch on education promotion. But iPod Touch seems to have a new model very soon. Do you think it's going to be during this promotion (until early September)?

Should I buy it now or just wait for the new model?

Thanks!
 
Im watching the keynote now (only seen blogs so far), and apple has started bashing MS in the first 10 minutes...
It makes their entire ad campaign look very immature when they spend half the time complaining about the competition.


And they love how the Finder works.... Crap. I suppose we will never get great file management like every other OS has (explorer, nautilus, konqueror, dolphin, etc...). Finder is still stuck in the dark ages.

The new window management features look cool, but i dont think they can compare it to windows 7. Window management in 7 is just awesome.
 
NoSmokingBandit said:
Im watching the keynote now (only seen blogs so far), and apple has started bashing MS in the first 10 minutes...
It makes their entire ad campaign look very immature when they spend half the time complaining about the competition.


And they love how the Finder works.... Crap. I suppose we will never get great file management like every other OS has (explorer, nautilus, konqueror, dolphin, etc...). Finder is still stuck in the dark ages.

The new window management features look cool, but i dont think they can compare it to windows 7. Window management in 7 is just awesome.
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Fluff

Making unsubstantiated claims is just as immature. What's so great about the file management in Explorer, Nautilus and Konqueror? Why is Windows 7 window managment "awesome" ?

Opinions don't have to be backed by facts but at the least one should attempt to articulate the very features that they claim are superior. Otherwise your just making noise ..but there is no signal.
 
inkswamp said:
Try this.

Go to System Preferences > Quicktime > Advanced > MIME Settings...

Select "Custom..." in the transport menu. Switch the transport protocol from UDP to HTTP. (No idea why Apple buried this options so far down where nobody can find it.)

And as a network admin, I'll assume you won't need an explanation as to why that works. :D
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OMG!!!!! Thank you so much! They never worked for me and I did that and it works. I always though it was something with their servers or something since they would never play for me. :rolleyes:

Thanks again. :D
 
nuckinfutz said:
Fluff

Making unsubstantiated claims is just as immature. What's so great about the file management in Explorer, Nautilus and Konqueror? Why is Windows 7 window managment "awesome" ?

Opinions don't have to be backed by facts but at the least one should attempt to articulate the very features that they claim are superior. Otherwise your just making noise ..but there is no signal.
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Have you used windows 7? Snapping windows, aero peek, previews in the taskbar (which apple has graciously copied with Dock Expose), resize from every edge (fitz's law, which fanboys love to reference), etc...

Nautilus, Explorer, etc all have this neat thing call Cut/Paste, its pretty cool. They have breadcrumb trails that are useful and not just a visual aid like Finder, they remember view setting per-folder instead of changing everything to list/icon/whatever all at once, they allow you to force a refresh instead of hoping finder does it for you, they all have address bars...

Is that enough for you?
 
did anyone notice

that the macbooks and snow leopard took up only 37.5% of the presentation?

never mind, seems you guys did. i really ought to look through these forums better
 
PDXoPDX said:
Anyone else think that the keynote was pretty boring? New Snow Leopard pricing and macbook updates seem like the winner and iPhone/ATT major losers. I guess Apple didn't promise anything big for the iPhone other than OS 3.0, but I was really looking forward to a matte case, no more gaudy silver bling bezel, and perhaps bigger hardware bumps.
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Don't mean to pick on you.. I've just read the thread and you clearly reflect the feelings of many in the thread. However.... Where we watching the same thing?

1. Apple have simplified their laptop line up (one name, three sizes), and actually bloody listened for the first time in how long?

2. SL was pitched as a refinement, and priced to match. Fantastic. I agree with others, Windows 7 has come a long way in Window management, and in some areas is plain and simple better. However, Expose is the single most sexy gorgeous slick UI feature ever that I use and abuse every hour of every day. It just got even better.

3. I'm an iPhone developer, so the OS 3.0 stuff didn't excite me, but the apps? Sublime, amazing, lovely.

4. The new phone... boy I wish they did these every 6 months, but its a solid enough upgrade. Those whining about AT&T are also surprised at their own reflection. We all knew it was there behind the mirror the whole time, except them apparently.

I really enjoyed the pitch, and although I kinda worship at the alter of his Steve-e-ness... I think it showed a well rounded team who "get it". Phil is always kinda of cheesy with his windows hits. However, it's more like when my dad tells a rude joke, it's a little clumsy and awkward... but kinda funny.

Well done Apple, loving your work.
 
Quick question. I've read just about everything, as much as I have time for, but can't find anything on the monthly cost of the data plan. Is it still $30 or are they dropping it to $20?
 
NoSmokingBandit said:
Have you used windows 7? Snapping windows, aero peek, previews in the taskbar (which apple has graciously copied with Dock Expose), resize from every edge (fitz's law, which fanboys love to reference), etc...

Nautilus, Explorer, etc all have this neat thing call Cut/Paste, its pretty cool. They have breadcrumb trails that are useful and not just a visual aid like Finder, they remember view setting per-folder instead of changing everything to list/icon/whatever all at once, they allow you to force a refresh instead of hoping finder does it for you, they all have address bars...

Is that enough for you?
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Dock Expose is superior to Taskbar Previews IMO. If I want to be able to differentiate between windows in an app I want as large of a preview as possible. It's kind of hard to claim that Apple ripped this from Windows as Expose predates any similar feature in Vista.

Resize from every edge ...not a bad feature and certainly superior to the OS X method. I guess it would save me the hassle of dragging a window and then resizing.

There is a new feature in Snow Leopard that I think will work like the pinned windows. Evidently you can take a window and control drag it and squeeze any open windows against the side of the desktop. It appears trivial to open a couple of windows and then "squeeze" them together for a nice two window setup.

I'd say that I'm not a big manual file management fan. I use Hazel on my Mac which means that I can setup a myriad of rules based on content. My download folder is watched so that graphic files, movie files, compressed files and more are stored in their particular folder. I believe the function of a computer should be to help me manage data "without" mirroring a poor paradigm like folders which has carried over from the physical world.

Folders are just poor tags and rigig hierarchy. What I want is smart folders, global tagging (xattr- extended attributes) and actions based on tags. By 10.7 I expect to reduce my folder structure by an order of magnitude and rely on tagging to give me the appropriate views into the file structure that I need.

Apple is clearly ahead of Microsoft here and I hope they keep working hard towards this end.
 
This was great. Great MBP Line, great pricing, and $30 Snow Leopard! WTF! Awesome on the Mac side.

Disliked how uncooperative AT&T is, but loved the well-deserved subtle but pointed public jabs they felt confident to make there. Clever writing.

Guess there's really no point in a front-facing camera right now, when the sluggish lummox of a service provider would rather suck money for offering minimal service, than catch up to where China was 5 years ago * and support video chat anyway. Might as well focus on getting the rest of the device up to speed.

Perhaps at exclusive-contract-negotiation-time we'll see some more big-picture innovation.

*Insert joke about free-market capitalism falling behind communism by stifling innovation here.
 
*LTD* said:
No.

It's because in the entire industry desktop sales are in the basement.

There is not enough demand for any additional Mac desktops. They'd be a money-loser for Apple.
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That is simply NOT true. Yes laptop sales are overtaking desktop in total, but desktop sales are not in the basement. That is like saying 4 door cars are in the basement because SUV and Truck sales have passed them.
 
patsfan83 said:
SD cards have become the norm for consumer and professional cameras. Just like firewire 400 lost out to usb2 (in consumer areas), Apple will follow the direction of their consumers, while also steering the industry in new technologies (wireless-n). They must feel that more consumers would use an SD slot than, say an express slot (1% of users used it was what Phil said in the keynote).
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Yup, I think you're right. I know I'm only one user, but I think this is fairly typical-- my video and still camera, and a very cool sound recorder that I use to practice music, all use SD. The LACK of an SD card slot, which (I hate to say, as I am very much an Apple fan) most of the "other" brands of notebooks have, plus of course the price, have kept me away from the MBPs, although they seem like sweet machines.

Well, my iBook (yes, iBook) is starting to seem awfully long in the tooth, and, at $ 1699 with the SD card slot for the 15" (this is a desktop replacement, the other option would be an iMac), I'm seriously thinking of treating myself...which I would not previously have considered. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one. I think this is a smart move for Apple.
 
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