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Were YOU joking?

The iPhone 4 does NOT have SUPERIOR specs than the EVO. Re-read my original post.

However I agree, the iPhone 4 is going outsell the EVO massively unfortunately.

APPLE NEEDS TO REFRESH HALF OF ITS COMPUTERS!

OK! Let EVO gets the HIGEST SPECS ON THE PLANET. SO WHAT??

bumping up to latest and highest tech EQUALS higher quality and better user experience? that is your logic, huh? What is your point of bringing that specs war between iP4 and EVO here? Why don't you just go buy EVO and get the hell of here?
 
So it's just everything that iPhone 2g should've been? Don't you just hate "rush to market".

Yes. Just like next years phone will also be everything the 2g should have been. and the year after that. And pretty much any time in the future. Every phone that is built with every new and emerging technology, Apple should have magically had in 2007 and built into a device costing under five thousand dollars.

Or would you prefer we all just didn't have iphones until this year? Or next year?
 
OK! Let EVO gets the HIGEST SPECS ON THE PLANET. SO WHAT??

bumping up to latest and highest tech EQUALS higher quality and better user experience? that is your logic, huh? What is your point of bringing that specs war between iP4 and EVO here? Why don't you just go buy EVO and get the hell of here?

You're freakin hilarious!

My point is that the iPhone 4 is NOT “going to change everything, again.” they're similar technologies ALREADY out there.

However my REAL point is: SCREW THE IPHONE, START UPDATING YOUR COMPUTERS APPLE. Or do them together I don't care. HOWEVER DON'T ABANDON YOUR COMPUTERS ANYMORE.

Yeah Apple your Macs, remember those? That's how you got rich in the first place!
 
Wow, I just spent the past two hours watching the keynote, and Steve Jobs really made himself look bad by harping on and on about people using WiFi.

Apple needs to either ban WiFi use in the audience, or do whatever it takes to not have the CEO of the century nagging the audience, sounding like someone's grouchy uncle or grandpa.

No, he didn't. He was jovial and smiling every time he said anything about the WiFi/MyFi stuff. And the audience was laughing along.
 
No, he didn't. He was jovial and smiling every time he said anything about the WiFi/MyFi stuff. And the audience was laughing along.

Exactly, SJ handled the situation really well, and he didn't get angry at all, even though towards the end, I'm sure that he was slightly pissed when he was having the video conference on the iPhone with Jonathan Ives and he mentioned the wifi thing a couple of times.

You can be sure that the next time Apple is going to demo something that requires a wireless connection, things are going to be different.
 
I'm surprised Apple didn't implement everything thing they could to make the presentation as bullet proof as possible, like having a private wi-fi network.

It was obvious that steve was continuously trying to equate the iPhone 4 wi-fi issue to excessive traffic on their wi-fi network, because what would've been the alternative, to admit that their precious new iPhone 4 demo unit actually might've had an issue? Steve's a business man, and he knows better than to let his shiny new product take the blame when he can easily make an excuse, and in this case, he diffused responsibility to the crowd and their use of wi-fi. It was annoying to hear him harping at the audience for using wi-fi when everyone in that conference hall knew damn well it had nothing to do with their use of the wi-fi network. Let's face it, year after year, there's never been a wi-fi issue due to traffic at WWDC events, AND, the iPhone 3GS was working perfectly fine on the same wi-fi network.

As a business man, Steve handled the wi-fi issue well.... but he wasn't fooling me. Come on, the iPhone 3GS was working perfectly fine on the same network that was apparently being bogged down.

Note to Apple: Use private wi-fi to ensure the best representation of your product during an event. Use an awesome connection and the most robust wi-fi router possible so that you'll ensure reliability and super fast DL's and UL's, to make your product appear in the best light possible. Otherwise, it's a gamble.
 
You're freakin hilarious!

My point is that the iPhone 4 is NOT “going to change everything, again.” they're similar technologies ALREADY out there.

However my REAL point is: SCREW THE IPHONE, START UPDATING YOUR COMPUTERS APPLE. Or do them together I don't care. HOWEVER DON'T ABANDON YOUR COMPUTERS ANYMORE.

Yeah Apple your Macs, remember those? That's how you got rich in the first place!

Their computers are already up to date. Following the ordinary upgrade timing.

AND, about the EVO. I wouldn't dare call it "better."
 
I'm surprised Apple didn't implement everything thing they could to make the presentation as bullet proof as possible, like having a private wi-fi network.

It was obvious that steve was continuously trying to equate the iPhone 4 wi-fi issue to excessive traffic on their wi-fi network, because what would've been the alternative, to admit that their precious new iPhone 4 demo unit actually might've had an issue? Steve's a business man, and he knows better than to let his shiny new product take the blame when he can easily make an excuse, and in this case, he diffused responsibility to the crowd and their use of wi-fi. It was annoying to hear him harping at the audience for using wi-fi when everyone in that conference hall knew damn well it had nothing to do with their use of the wi-fi network. Let's face it, year after year, there's never been a wi-fi issue due to traffic at WWDC events, AND, the iPhone 3GS was working perfectly fine on the same wi-fi network.

As a business man, Steve handled the wi-fi issue well.... but he wasn't fooling me. Come on, the iPhone 3GS was working perfectly fine on the same network that was apparently being bogged down.

Note to Apple: Use private wi-fi to ensure the best representation of your product during an event. Use an awesome connection and the most robust wi-fi router possible so that you'll ensure reliability and super fast DL's and UL's, to make your product appear in the best light possible. Otherwise, it's a gamble.

Erm, you don't understand wifi do you. He was complaining about the myfi hotspots out there, there are only 3 real separate wifi channels you can use. Each myfi hotspot is a cellular to wifi personal router device polluting the room with dozens if not more of networks, which is not how wifi is supposed to work. He probably had a private wifi network, but it wouldn't matter, you can't protect wireless signals from massive interference. I'm just not sure how you think wireless signals work, once sent from the antenna a password/encryption isn't going to magically shield it from interfering/competing signals. The air is a shared medium, adding encryption/private does nothing to change that. An apple event with hundreds of people in a room is probably the most excessively overloaded situation you can get. Someone who's already loaded a webpage and perhaps doesn't really care if its a bit slow sending their tweets might be fine with that situation. Not so much if you are doing a demo.

anyways wifi connectivity is a fundamental function of the phone, in other words its not some obscure ability that might slip under the radar of testing. its not believable he had a unit that couldn't do wifi.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20005447-265.html
"9:37 a.m.: Vincent has to move around to try and get a better signal. He's using a wireless keyboard that seems to be the main problem, in that this place is lit up like a Christmas tree with wireless signals. Unfortunately for Google, we're getting a sense of why television is called "a vast wasteland," as the Today Show moves between bizarre Nicholas Cage quotes and Octomom updates.

9:37 a.m.: Google is asking attendees to turn off their cell phones, as the interference has ground this demonstration to a halt. Awkward. "

As you can see, it happened at google as well.
 
Originally Posted by Stevamundo
Were YOU joking?

The iPhone 4 does NOT have SUPERIOR specs than the EVO. Re-read my original post.

However I agree, the iPhone 4 is going outsell the EVO massively unfortunately.

APPLE NEEDS TO REFRESH HALF OF ITS COMPUTERS!
Why don't you just go buy EVO and get the hell of here?Why don't you just go buy EVO and get the hell of here?

Obvious reason: Thats because he is a party pooper, trying very hard to get people laughing with his iPoop and iPuke jokes. Also, trying very hard to convince people that he cannot discern a superior product even if it stares at his face.

Someone should tell him to sod off to some droid forums where his wisdom and wisecrack will be celebrated.
:rolleyes:
 
Text transcript?

Has anyone seen a full text transcript of the keynote posted somewhere on the web?

Not sure if anyone has done this in the past for previous keynotes, but I'd be interested to see it.
 
The Biggest Bing?

Has anyone else noticed what sounds like Steve pulling a Bing plug in his keynote? At about 1:04:45 he says "the biggest Bing is..." before he has acknowledged his inclusion of this search feature.

Spooky
 
Kind of a let down. The iPhone looks new and has a front face camera, iOS, and thats it. What happened to the computers?
 
i wish this was up 12 hours ago :mad:

This was up Live during the keynote. I starting watching it but it was downloading so slow with horrible lag.

Something I noticed on the live page however was June 8th was displaying on the page when it was June 7th.
 
Erm, you don't understand wifi do you. He was complaining about the myfi hotspots out there, there are only 3 real separate wifi channels you can use. Each myfi hotspot is a cellular to wifi personal router device polluting the room with dozens if not more of networks, which is not how wifi is supposed to work. He probably had a private wifi network, but it wouldn't matter, you can't protect wireless signals from massive interference. I'm just not sure how you think wireless signals work, once sent from the antenna a password/encryption isn't going to magically shield it from interfering/competing signals. The air is a shared medium, adding encryption/private does nothing to change that. An apple event with hundreds of people in a room is probably the most excessively overloaded situation you can get. Someone who's already loaded a webpage and perhaps doesn't really care if its a bit slow sending their tweets might be fine with that situation. Not so much if you are doing a demo.

anyways wifi connectivity is a fundamental function of the phone, in other words its not some obscure ability that might slip under the radar of testing. its not believable he had a unit that couldn't do wifi.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20005447-265.html
"9:37 a.m.: Vincent has to move around to try and get a better signal. He's using a wireless keyboard that seems to be the main problem, in that this place is lit up like a Christmas tree with wireless signals. Unfortunately for Google, we're getting a sense of why television is called "a vast wasteland," as the Today Show moves between bizarre Nicholas Cage quotes and Octomom updates.

9:37 a.m.: Google is asking attendees to turn off their cell phones, as the interference has ground this demonstration to a halt. Awkward. "

As you can see, it happened at google as well.

Great post, glad that now I know what was really the case, and the bit of info from the google event was good evidence to support what you explained. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize there were a ton of people on cellular wi-fi cards polluting the room and hindering the wi-fi signals, for some silly reason I thought everyone was logged onto whatever free wi-fi the building was providing for the event. Makes perfect sense.
 
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