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You don't need OS X to be productive on an iPad.

Well it depends on what you consider to be productive. I cannot get the same amount of work done on iPad that I get done on my mbp. I create a lot of word and power point files . Although office for iPad is nice it still doesn't have the features of a desktop version.
 
Would this thing PLEASE run real OS X?!? And PLEASE ditch the broken Lightning connector :-/
 
No. Wacom and N-Trig tech don't rely on powered pens at all. It's the screen itself that's doing all the work.

You don't necessarily need specialized tech to drive it. A pressure sensitive screen with a much, much finer resolution capacitance grid threaded through it would probably net about the same results without adding any weight or thickness to the device.

I'm referring to the wireless charger and receiver.
 
Not buying another iPad til I get access to the file system and terminal.

F...i...le....sy...st....em? What is this advanced technology? :D

Yeah, I really want real OS X on here-which is what I wanted from the iPad to begin with. I was expecting exactly what Microsoft did with Windows 8-an optional touch interface and some tweaks so the desktop would work well with touch.

I also want a better charging interface as Lightning is garbage/defective. Even just use the same thing from the Macbooks would be fine with me.

I'll probably buy one even if it's iOS if they get rid of Lightning, since a 12.9" iPad even with OS X would be a great ereader for stuff like graphic novels and magazines, but I'd preorder for sure if it was running OS X.

EDIT: I suppose they could even do something like Windows RT...have it running on ARM without (or preferably with) the ability to run x86 programs, but that would let it run iOS stuff in addition to having a real file system, maybe include the "big" version of iWork the way RT includes Office. That would make some kind of sense, not as cool as x86, but you'd still have iOS compatibility then but with some more capability.
 
It is very difficult to be productive while using your finger to write. It feels unnatural and looks like the hand writing of an eight year old. The technology is there. A stylus is essential for productivity. It's either that or voice dictation.
 
Fix the iPad Pro Vibration Problem First!!!!

Why would I want a stylus when I can't even hold the iPad Pro without it vibrating like crazy when the sound is on? Fix the vibration bug first and then I'll get the stylus.
 
Would this thing PLEASE run real OS X?!? And PLEASE ditch the broken Lightning connector :-/

F...i...le....sy...st....em? What is this advanced technology? :D

Yeah, I really want real OS X on here-which is what I wanted from the iPad to begin with. I was expecting exactly what Microsoft did with Windows 8-an optional touch interface and some tweaks so the desktop would work well with touch.

I also want a better charging interface as Lightning is garbage/defective. Even just use the same thing from the Macbooks would be fine with me.

I'll probably buy one even if it's iOS if they get rid of Lightning, since a 12.9" iPad even with OS X would be a great ereader for stuff like graphic novels and magazines, but I'd preorder for sure if it was running OS X.

EDIT: I suppose they could even do something like Windows RT...have it running on ARM without (or preferably with) the ability to run x86 programs, but that would let it run iOS stuff in addition to having a real file system, maybe include the "big" version of iWork the way RT includes Office. That would make some kind of sense, not as cool as x86, but you'd still have iOS compatibility then but with some more capability.

iPad could probably run an OS X-like OS with a file system (and I'm all for that), but to run x86 applications apple would have to use an intel chip, which would immediately make the ipad significantly thicker and heavier and less battery efficient, which I think we all know apple won't do to their ipad line. IF they did, it certainly wouldn't be called an ipad. It would probably be considered part of the Mac product line. Maybe the MacPad. (Still kinda sounds like Maxi Pad)
 
Looking at Apple's PRO product history....How long before Apple launches this PRO tablet and then discontinues it? I'm still bitter about Xserve, Final Cut Pro, XserveRaid, Final Cut Server, etc.
 
iPad could probably run an OS X-like OS with a file system (and I'm all for that), but to run x86 applications apple would have to use an intel chip, which would immediately make the ipad significantly thicker and heavier and less battery efficient, which I think we all know apple won't do to their ipad line. IF they did, it certainly wouldn't be called an ipad. It would probably be considered part of the Mac product line. Maybe the MacPad. (Still kinda sounds like Maxi Pad)

What you suggested will be the future but in the iPad's current form, weight and battery life. Basically an Apple tablet running a desktop-class form of Mac OS. Unless Apple's about to blow us away with a new technological breakthrough type of product, we're probably 2-3 years away from this being a reality.
 
It's a little different on a 13" screen where you have higher resolution and require finer touch resolution than your finger.

This iPad pro I can guarantee is going to be a surface pro 3 competitor and I bet it's going to have OS X running one or two of apples chips.

You'll be wanting that stylus with a 13" touch screen and OS X.
You can guarantee a rumored device is going to be a competitor to the SP3?
 
If Apple had continued to stay out of the phone market, I think we'd have a far greater variety of popular phone form factors. E.g. more emphasis on functionality, ruggedness and battery life, instead of on a glamorous and ever thinner slab.

Looking at the devices we had, I'm talking the real world devices, not the ones Apple fans like to post pictures off, then I fully believe the market was heading towards thin designer slabs anyway regardless of anything Apple did. I fully believe if Apple never made the iPhone, than Android devices would still look like they do today and even Windows devices would too.
 
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Looking at the devices we had I'm talking the real world devices, not the ones Apple fans like to post pictures off, then I fully believe the market was heading towards thin designer slabs anyway regardless of anything Apple did. I fully believe if Apple never made the iPhone, than Android devices would still look like they do today and even Windows devices would too.

Indeed. I think the more interesting thing would be in regards to how the OSes would have developed.
 
Yeah, I find that funny considering Google and Android phones wouldn't even exist in their current form without iPhone.
I find it amusing you think you know what Android would be today without iPhone.

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You are aware that iPhone made Google go back and redesign Android completely right?

So actually, it basically is.

Citation: http://bgr.com/2013/12/19/original-iphone-android-story/
You are aware that some of that is speculation? You are aware you don't actually know what happened?
 
The iPad pro is much needed. We are now using MS Surface throughout my organistion at cost of £2k each there is some serious cash being left on the table by Apple.

There is a need for the iPad pro running MS word and excel etc that can cope aswell as the MS surface.

Hopeful that it launches soon.

Out of curiosity, why did your organization choose the Surface over the Macbook Air? Doesn't MBA run MS word and excel? Did it need to be a tablet form factor, and with a stylus?
 
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, actually I'm not really sure what you mean at all. :p. Do you mean Apple will "copy" OSx? Well then it would be OSx wouldn't it? Or at least to a certain degree. :rolleyes: I'll predict it's nowhere near OSx for the simple reason that Apple makes a large part of its money convincing consumers they need a laptop with OSx on it AND an ipad with iOS on it. In any event if they do multi window I'll bet it's very reminiscent (copied) from Samsung.

It's sarcasm. Apple doesn't need anything from Samsung to know how to do a multi window interface, since they've been implementing them for decades on computers and tablet-like devices.
 
If Apple did do this, I hope the pen would be pressure sensitive for digital painting and stuff.

Totally agree. The problem to date with most pens is that they are not pressure sensitive or require special apps in order to make them work. A pen that would allow fine lines and pressure sensitivity to work across a broad spectrum of apps without the need for any thing else would be a great addition for those that need it like artist, graphic designers, architects, etc.
 
None of this really applies to what is being talked about here. They use the word "stylus", but really they're talking about a 'pen'.

What's the difference? Well, I consider a stylus to be a pointing device - something you use to bring up menus and move around the page, etc. A pen is really more of an accessory for drawing-type tasks (although that's not to say you can't use it to navigate menus and such, just that it isn't its primary purpose).

Styluses are a bad idea - it's much more convenient and intuitive to use your fingers to navigate a device. Pens, however, are very good ideas - they allow us to keep on directly manipulating things on the screen (which is what makes iPhones and iPads so great and so different from PCs), but they allow us to do it more precisely and comfortably (palm rejection).

I would love a pen for iOS. The Samsung pen is basically the only thing I'm jealous of from the Android world. I want that pen, but with Apple's software and system integration.


This is guy is getting it.

Just as well Steve Jobs is no longer alive:


Apple are certainly copying and following the others if they do launch a Stylus for the iPad.

You and so many others here unfortunately don't
 
Apple feeling threatened by the Surface Pro 3, perhaps?

I dont know that apple is threatened by the surface pro, specifically--but i think apple perhaps sees the value of the concept: a larger tablet with a robust pen functionality.

I dont know if apple will enable it with osx, but i wouldn't be surprised to see apple introduce a oneNote clone that runs in ios and osx.
 
Funny enough I never found the need for one. Can't help but think there are millions like me.

i got one for my ipad, somewhat useable then tried it for my iphone 5 - awful results, glad i ditched it. However, the stylus on my sisters note-3 and my google nexus 7 works so much better and is so much more function, thus i think software interface and integration may have a big impact.
 
If Apple had continued to stay out of the phone market, I think we'd have a far greater variety of popular phone form factors. E.g. more emphasis on functionality, ruggedness and battery life, instead of on a glamorous and ever thinner slab.

If that's what people want then why aren't we seeing more form factors like that? But now the rumors are the Galaxy S6 will eschew removable battery for a glass back.

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Apple feeling threatened by the Surface Pro 3, perhaps?

Perhaps Apple is able to do some of this stuff now that Steve (and Scott Forstall) are no longer around.
 
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