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It's not a physical button. Software driven sensors. If phone freezes up touch may not work. Hard reboot is now power and lower volume keys.
just saying a touch sensor can still be a physical thing. Didn't know the changed hard reboot combo

No touch screen is capacitance and pressure running through software.
Wasn't saying it necessarily is, just that it can be. You can physically interact with something that doesn't need software or power and isn't a clickable button.
 
Again, what's the use case? The whole point of the right angle connector is create a low-profile connection to take the strain and minimize pressure applied to a plug sticking straight out of the bottom. So there shouldn't be a lot of front to back motion to torque the connector, especially in a pocket. But in that same application there would be considerable opportunity for a long plug to encounter opposing forces.

I am in no way trying to put you or anyone down here by saying this, but there was a time when Apple prided itself in thinking about any and all use cases and wanted its users to feel that "oh! they thought of that!" no matter how small or singular the use case be. Apple wanted to be that provider who cared.

Today, it is more about "Oh! They didn't think of EVEN this?!"

Do you really want more stickers? I am sure all of us here want top-brass usability and impeccable versatility and reliability. That is slightly dwindling at the moment. The Music app is nowhere as simple as it used to be, visually or functionally, both. For a 100 billion dollar company, this really is shameful.

People here are often times quick to look down on those people who lament upon lost versatility or feature-set simply in the name of progress. If they say they are unhappy about Apple removing the headphone jack, there are quick quips about never upgrading, going to Android, and what not. But, it is the use-cases, no matter how minor, that Apple wanted to also think of at one point of time, and it did it beautifully. On the Mac, running 10.2 Jaguar, I remember how thoughtful it was to see that while I am typing or whatever it is I am doing actively, no other window could steal my cursor or my focus to itself. This was in such stark contrast to Windows where any and all programs could play cricket and rugby and soccer with your focus. Say, you are typing something, and immediately, suddenly, you are typing into something else. On the Mac, this was taken care of, and that made me respect Apple and the designers of the software.

It hurts to see that today such subtle focus is being killed off, apps are nowhere as strict as they used to be in The Jaguar days (my beginning of Mac journey) right up to Snow Leopard. Today, on El Cap, Yosemite, Sierra, there are many times when I find that annoyance just like Windows. These are the things Apple needs to focus more on, their real user base, not animated chatbot-centric youth base for the purpose of making more money through selling stickers to kids than helping professionals and actual users have a rewarding and superior computing experience.
 
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I'ts not bashing, why so negative *giggles*.

"I told you so" isn't bashing. It's just what it is. Why fiddle with something that has been working and working so well for so long? Why mess around? Just for the sake of a thinner device that's water proof? Why cater to people who don't learn, keep your phones away from water period, protect these boutique gadgets, if you don't care, then just get a new one every time you mess up, otherwise, take better care of your over priced tech stuff for crying out loud. The industry creates problems by trying to cater to the clumsy consumers.

They just bully us around and force us to comply to their supply, they create a demand from thin air and everyone goes crazy for it. That's just ignorant :D

I LOVE You all... Take good care of each other :D
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I am still using my iPhone 4S it's still really snappy and in pristine working order... The problem isn't lint nor the device. Just saying.
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Common sense on how to care for our tech stuff really goes a long way in it's life time. I've had the same set of headphones since 1997. I just take really good care of them.

I'm not clear what you're saying regarding my post. My controls didn't work on my headset, I took it into the Apple store, I watch them take pocket lint out of the jack, and now I have no control issues.
 



Apple is working on a fix for an issue that can cause the new Lightning EarPods designed for the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus to stop working properly, the company said in a statement given to Business Insider.

When using the EarPods, there's an occasional bug that can cause the remote portion of the accessory to become unresponsive. While audio will continue to play, the remote does not work, so there's no way to control the volume, access Siri, or answer a phone call.

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Apple plans to issue a fix in an upcoming software update, but there's no word on when it might be released. Business Insider is not sure if third-party Lightning-based headphones are affected, but there have been reports of similar bugs with the Lightning adapter. Some headphones, such as Beats headphones with a 3.5mm connector, appear to have a non-functional remote when plugged into an iPhone with the Lightning adapter.

Because the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus do not have a headphone jack, Apple shipped the devices with a set of EarPods that feature a Lightning connector instead of a 3.5mm headphone jack. The EarPods plug into the Lightning port, making it more difficult to charge and listen to music at the same time. Apple has also included a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter for customers who want to use their own headphones.

Article Link: Apple Preparing Fix for Glitch Causing Lightning EarPods Remote to Stop Working
[doublepost=1478347279][/doublepost]Using the provided dongle with my old ear pods work great. But it makes it just long enough to get hung up on EVERYTHING!
That is all . . .
 
[doublepost=1478347279][/doublepost]Using the provided dongle with my old ear pods work great. But it makes it just long enough to get hung up on EVERYTHING!
That is all . . .
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Amazing...another Chinese made product not working correctly....who knew?
 
Um, so the jack wasn't the problem, the *broken* headphones were then, right? So the fault wasn't the jack, so much as the defective/crappy made in china headphones.... right? And if the Lightning EarPods develop a similar fault at the connector end, you know, the stress point in most all headphones, they won't work at all.

How is this an improvement again?
This innovation has become a crutch. It seems that Apple no longer love their users
 
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I'm still having this in october 2017...Did the software update fix all cases for everyone else?
 
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