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I was half beliving Apple would drop the Mac Pro and their desktop display line other than the laptop-centric 24".

June? Really? They've devoted so much to the soemwhat overhyped iPad that they've lost sight of everything else!

Looks like Apple cares more for iPod users than for the Pro users that kept them afloat during the lean years.

Remember, Apple - trust is hard to earn and easy to lose.

Kept them afloat? It was precisely the opposite: the pro users went to Windows in droves. It was the myriad consumers who bought iMacs and iPods that revived Apple.
 
Not sure if its mentioned, however does this really make any logical sense. Lets look at some of the facts:

1) 21" iMac will allow the monitor to accept an external video source.

2) 24" ACD LED IPS is not a true 16x9 ratio, though display only.

3) 27" iMac will allow the monitor to accept an external video source.

would the next display option not be a...

4) 30" ACD LED IPS is not a true 16x9 ratio, though display only.


Why would :apple: release and carry 2x27" display/AIO option when it would clearly be advantageous to buy the 27" iMac and use the display with an external video source when need be. It makes more sense to release a 30" to match the present offering or exceeding the specs. Take this for simple math for thought:

21+3 = 24
24+3 = 27
27+3 = 30

My hunch is that this rumour should state 30" vice 27" LED ACD IPS displays.

For clarification, they will be H-IPS [if not already] versus S-IPS. The refresh rates are considerably better w/ H-IPS.
 
Hmm seems like a silly product next to the dell U2711. It has VGA, HDMI, DisplayPort, Component, Composite, and two DVI ports. It also has 3 usb ( 2 downstream 1 up) audio out and speaker port. No way the apple one is going to have anywhere near so many option in terms of video connecting. And I would be very very very very surprised to have it priced at 1099$ which is what the dell is going for. (ITS ON SALE FOR 799 IN DELL CANADA TODAY ONLY)

The connections might not be an issue for some people, but cmon, if the thing is priced higher than what dell offers, this is a no brainer for me. There would have to be something to justify a higher price and not just pretty looking apple design. But thats just me.
 
I'm disinclined to see Apple offering a new 30" ACD, mainly because nothing was stopping them from making the iMac a 30" display as opposed to a 27" other than the higher cost of the 30" panel.

So that Apple did not choose a 30" panel for the iMac, which would have given them an excuse to launch a new 30" ACD, makes me inclined to believe the 30" ACD will be End-of-Lifed in favor of this rumored 27" display.

And with Apple phasing out the 20" and 23" ACDs in favor of the 24" model, it would not be unreasonable for them to phase out the 30" in favor of a 27" model.
 
I'm disinclined to see Apple offering a new 30" ACD, mainly because nothing was stopping them from making the iMac a 30" display as opposed to a 27" other than the higher cost of the 30" panel.

So that Apple did not choose a 30" panel for the iMac, which would have given them an excuse to launch a new 30" ACD, makes me inclined to believe the 30" ACD will be End-of-Lifed in favor of this rumored 27" display.

And with Apple phasing out the 20" and 23" ACDs in favor of the 24" model, it would not be unreasonable for them to phase out the 30" in favor of a 27" model.

As long as there is no pixel count loss, I agree.
 
no, but what exact advantage do you perceive from a white led backlit screen, other than it being one of the latest buzzwords?

It's my understanding that LED backlit displays offer more uniform backlighting, are quicker to come to full brightness, and don't dim nearly as quickly after hours and hours of use as compared to fluorescent bulb backlights. And don't they use less power? At least that's what I've been led to believe.

Of course if yellow tinting is a byproduct of large LED backlit screens then it's not worth those supposed advantages.
 
Exactly. Add to that the 6+ year time span since the release of the 30" ACD + pent up customers that have been waiting for the update, and I'd say your pricing guesses sound practical in this case.

Except if this were true everybody who isn't a moron would just buy a 27" iMac for the exact same price since it can be used as an external display, and they'd get a pretty nice computer for "free". So no way the 27" ACD costs this much.

Yes, you're right. I forgot to factor in the base 27" iMac (even when I just mentioned it in a previous post :rolleyes:).

Since Apple's already set the bar then, perhaps a $1299 starting price might be the safest bet?

You guys make sense. I can accept being wrong here without a fight because my price being wrong is great news for everyone. I was happy to pay $1800x2 for two of them, so paying $1499 for each is a lot nicer.

I am now curious to see if Apple really does put a $1499 price tag on it, because it'd be a lot closer to Dell's pricing for a monitor. Which is a miracle IMHO.
 
Quick call the WAH-mbulance!!!!
APPLE'S RELEASING YET ANOTHER GLOSSY SCREEN!!!!!

Get over it people.

If you don't want it buy a different monitor.
If you don't want a glossy screen iMac, then buy a Mac mini, Mac Pro or one of the MacBook models and attach them to your beloved matte screen.

Plain. Simple. End of Story.
 
Also I hope in a new Mac Pro's case... Not only performance, but design! :D

I like the design. Easy hard drive install/remove trays, RAM slots that can be easily accessed, two optical bays & very quite operation. Sure it's big but it is a workstation.

The one i would like would be a dust screen for the air flow. I'm tired of almost once a month of cleaning the dust out of this 2008 Mac Pro. Yes, I do have a clean work area but I get a ton of fine dust for the chiller system here at work.
 
I like the design. Easy hard drive install/remove trays, RAM slots that can be easily accessed, two optical bays & very quite operation. Sure it's big but it is a workstation.

The one i would like would be a dust screen for the air flow. I'm tired of almost once a month of cleaning the dust out of this 2008 Mac Pro. Yes, I do have a clean work area but I get a ton of fine dust for the chiller system here at work.

I don't think that most of us want a huge physical update... just ANYTHING!
:)
 
The Mac Pro was last updated over a year ago (March 3, 2009). So the rumor pegs an update after 15 months? Apple is still charging premium prices for year old hardware, that's crazy. :eek:
 
meh...27 inch is way too big and not for me.it's for editors and ppl who work on heavy stuff.

24 inch is the perfect size,drop its price soon,please.
 
I just hope my 9400m Mac Mini will be able too drive this thing! :)

My dreams have come true, just hope its not too expensive in the UK otherwise an iMac makes more and more sense. (Just hate the design)

Apeture will be my main gpu intensive app.
 
This is the hostile attitude I really disagree with. The processors just debuted earlier this week. I just think it is amazing that people think Apple can pull these processors out of thin air. Saddly it is an attitude seen far to much on this forum. The Mac Pros will come when Apple has all of it's ducks in a row. The processor is just one of those ducks.


Dave

You mean those obsolete processors? How is that "amazing"?
 
The Mac Pro was last updated over a year ago (March 3, 2009). So the rumor pegs an update after 15 months? Apple is still charging premium prices for year old hardware, that's crazy. :eek:

i haven't looked at Dell workstation prices, but everyone is still selling Xeon 5500s. even after the launch HP is still charging the same prices on their current servers even though the 5600 Proliants don't ship until March
 
The 27-inch LED Cinema Display is said to use the same panel as that used in Apple's 27-inch iMac and will closely resemble the existing 24-inch LED Cinema Display released in October 2008.

The old cinema display (before it was outdated) used to be a serious step up from the iMac screen quality.

The new cinema display seems to be just an iMac without the computer.

What Apple should deliver: a high quality wide-gamut display with built-in hardware calibration. Competing with NEC, Eizo, Viewsonic quality monitors.

Instead we'll be getting a mediocre piece of stylish lifestyle equipment, and (just like the 24" monitor) not good for color critical work.
 
I hadn't read about lightpeak until earlier in this post. As I understand it, is it a replacement for SATA connections? It claims to have a faster transfer rate for optical drives, etc. If lightpeak (a SONY invention?) is going to be implemented in a new Apple system, if would be across product lines and when it has been utilized as a standard. I doubt the next Mac Pro will use it.

Also, could it be added through a PCI-Express card?

You OBVIOUSLY have NO idea what you are talking about!
Read: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/
 
Doesn't make sense.

Would be surprised if Apple makes enough on a 27" derivative to make it worth while ( must have 29-35 % margins ). A 30" version would be doom. (e.g, the completely non value price competitive pricing on the current 30" ... it is just in the store because it already existed and the R&D is already paid for. )

In the classical world of economics I would agree with you, however this is :apple: we are talking about, they do not care about cost on pro displays and workstations including laptops. They have a split cost coverage on this, when it includes anything iPod, iPhone and now iPad the business plan is to get it into as many hands as possible. Give the software for free as well to wet the average consumer into trying it without risk. The classic hook and reel. Next is lure these addicts with the Mac hardware and the sort.

If :apple: really cared for cheaper they would lower the price of the Mac Mini, :apple:TV or even the MacBook. While they are at it why not offer another eMac. However this is not :apple: game plan. Sell the iPod/iPhone/iPad for less and then make profit off the other hardware.

Remember that :apple: was one of the few companies on the scene to release a 30" ACD back in the day and regardless of cost it still sold like hot cakes. I gather that a 30" LED would fit the same logic of past. Funny thing that you mentioned that it would not sell because people commented the same back when there was talk of a 30" ACD.
 
Whole day today, I was having dilemma whether to get the Dell U2711 for $799.

Now this news??

I think 27” Apple LED will be around $999-1099 range, 24” will be around 699-799 range. Maybe a 30” version from $1599-2000?

Coz if 27” LED is selling for $1300 and up, people would just buy 27” iMac for $1799: $500 more for

3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1TB Serial ATA Drive
ATI Radeon HD 4670 256MB
Apple Wireless Keyboard
8x double-layer SuperDrive
Apple Magic Mouse

So, 27” LED Apple should realistically be around $999. And that would means 24” Apple LED price will be lowered.

All above are in CAD.

I know a lot of people are saying Apple normally charge more than other brand like Dell, but I think Apple is ready to compete in term of pricing.

Eg. iPad: Rumoured to start from $699-999? BANG! $499.

I think SD slot will be in the new 27”. Maybe with a few more inputs too.

I’m optimistic person and hope I’m right.
 
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