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Can someone confirm if all these new features will work on an iPhone 3GS? If so, is it buggy? If it does work and isn't too buggy this will make my day :)
 
no, i dont. "What'sApp" lets me text for free on my iPhone to other iDevices as well as Nokia, Blackberrys and Android



just get WhatsApp ... it doesnt even cost money in the appstore o_O

Well thats cool then...I'll have to check it out
 
Wireless sync will be more than welcome. I also thought the split keyboard thing was kinda neat. Can't wait to upgrade. I hope they don't push it to the end of fall, cause that's December...
 
I was looking forward to a file management center or a central documents folder on iOS. Nothing like that here except icloud... Wish I bought the 3G iPad now.

Quite disappointed, mostly meh upgrades nothing that really says Wow! Really, really need to get iOS 5.
 
Apple is sleeping or something.. Nothing is available today?

In case you forgot, this was the World Wide DEVELOPER'S Conference. Not the World Wide Consumer Conference. That means this is strictly for developers to give them a glimpse into what's coming, release the SDKs so developers can all get on board PRIOR to the launch of the new iOS 5.

Have you been asleep?
 
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I agree. It seems that Apple is now following Android in the phone area. Notificatioms is pretty much an outright copy of what android already does. Apple still owns the tablet but I think they better wow folks soon or they can find themselves falling behind with marketshare. Keynote didn't have past years wow factor for me. Cloud is ok but nothing available til fall stinks.
 
one thing I haven't seen in this WWDC presentation of IOS 5 is the ability to switch between apps seemlessly without the use of the home button...

kind of like Mission control on the iPad or Expose....

it would make moving between apps faster......this is the biggest thing I was hoping to see.

Hopefully it will be in the final release of iOS5....
 
How does the new newsstand app affect those of us who get magazines and newspapers through existing newsstand apps such as Zinio and PressReader. Will any of these subscriptions move over to the new app? Will the new app put these other apps out of business?

you kind of answered yourself I think. If you didn't buy a subscription from the app store, then why would the app store update subscriptions you bought from somewhere else in their app? That would me like expecting to find your Gmail inside your AOL mail box kind of or apple happily syncing your Kindle purchases with iBooks.
 
They spared the renaming of iOS5 to Android but otherwise this release has Android watermarked all over it.

Which isn't a bad thing as now everyone can enjoy a real powerful mobile OS and who knows I might finally get the iPad :cool:
 
If Maps truly isn't changing at all (the only thing I noticed was "alternate routes"), that's pretty pathetic. It's been virtually the same for 5 years!!

Really. Apple will need to re-hype IOS5 with the iPhone 5 launch. We saw the heavy changes to IOS, but what we didn't see was a play by play on Apps really except Safari (and things that relate more to developers, not consumers).

I expect we will see more come fall. This was more to let developers begin the cycle of app updates with the new APIs.
 
I can't believe they still don't allow motion backgrounds or themes.

I love my iPhone but i really hope Apple throws some cool carrots to us. Every iPhone looks exactly the same. We are all individuals. Please let us change something more than just the background!
 
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I'm pretty excited about the iMessage service. I know it sounds pretty mundane, but it's essentially BBM for iPhone. BBM is the most useful app on a Blackberry for most users. This could really help draw people away from their Crackberry's as long as they're friends are also making the switch.
 
>iOS

Hory sheet we have android features!

Done better.

>iCloud

Hory sheet we have amazon cloud storage and google music features!

Done way, way, way better. I'm sorry, there is no comparison to what we just saw today and 'google music features' coupled with amazon cloud storage.

Automatic and persistent document state/versioning across all devices simultaneously? Easy APIs for developers to utilize that same functionality in arbitrary apps? Seamless integration of cloud storage services with background upstream/downstream IO keeping everything tightly woven and ready to use at your fingertips regardless of which device you pick up? A couple of disparate, single-track utilities with no system-wide integration, no instant built-in utility, no cohesive, holistic approach to solving instant data sharing and synchronization do not a consumer solution make.

Comparing the iCloud implementation and its built-in integration with all iOS/Mac devices/software/applications to 'amazon cloud + google music' is like comparing a Mercedes-Benz to a 'little-red-wagon + leaf-blower motor'.

>Lion

Hory sheet we have a repository!

I think you watched a different keynote than I did.
 
Apple is sleeping or something.. Nothing is available today?

It is called a "developers conference." They announce this stuff to developers so that they can start developing, so that when 5 is released there are apps that can use the new features.
 
Just a little piece by piece breakdown of the new features and how they compare to Android and WebOS and WP7 Mango.
• Notifications will see a major overhaul as rumored most recently by TechCrunch. The new Notification Center in iOS 5 will aggregate all notifications, accessed by swiping down from the status bar at the top of the screen. New notifications will appear at the top of the screen and will be less obtrusive overall. Notifications will also be displayed on the lock screen along with weather and stock alerts. Tapping on a notification will automatically open the related app.
Yep, this almost brings iOS on par with Android & WebOS. It is a more intrusive approach (big popup instead of in the notification bar), and also doesn't appear to have a clear all function or a gaming mode system (instead just halting notifications during gaming). OTOH, this does provide more info passively (without dragging down the notification bar to reveal the drawer) than Android does, since Android merely uses a 1-line display followed by a icon in the notification bar, instead of usinga large, 4 line display at the top of the screen. Overall, I prefer Android/WebOS's approach, but either is impressive and could be argued to be the best. Advantage Draw.
• iOS 5 will be "PC free" allowing new device activation and iOS updates over the air. Also, iTunes library syncing will be possible wirelessly via Wi-Fi. While an iOS device is being charged, it will automatically find the associated iTunes library and sync automatically.
This mirrors the similar feature on WP7, Android, and WebOS, without completely copying it. Instead of relying on simply hooking up to services like Facebook, Google, Windows Live, Yahoo and Amazon for syncing your stuff, Apple has created their own sync service, iCloud, hosted on their own datacenter, bypassing those companies altogether. And the wi-fi syncing is an alternative to simply downloading everything OTA/streaming stuff as you do on android, or the various third-party WiFi sync tools for Android/WebOS. The downside is if you already use Google Apps, or if your business uses Google Apps, or you already use Yahoo/Windows Live tools, syncing will be more complicated than it is on Android/WebOS/WP7. OTOH, if you're on a mac or iPad as your main computer, syncing is easy, since iOS 5 & Lion will both support iCloud with their built in PIM tools & other stuff. Hopefully Outlook > iCloud sync will be in Windows iTunes too. Advantage Draw/iOS slight win.
• AirPlay Mirroring will also be possible to wirelessly mirror an iPad's display to a television connected to an AppleTV.
This mimics tools like DLNA, except it only supports Apple's own Apple TV, whereas DLNA supports a wide range of TVs, BluRay Players, set-top boxes, and the Xbox 360. Advantage DLNA (which is supported by many Android devices.)
• Also as rumored, Twitter will be integrated into iOS and several apps including Camera, Photos, Maps, and Safari. Contacts can also be updated automatically with Twitter handles.
This is highly similar to services like TouchWiz's Social Networking Feeds Feature, except TouchWiz, Sense, and Blur integrate Twitter, Facebook, and sometimes Myspace and LinkedIn & RSS, all together, rather than just Twitter. The advantage of integration is crossposting, crossviewing (viewing a combined feed), cross commenting, and pulling contacts, pictures, and information from all services at once. WP7 and WebOS also do this (WP7 "Mango" will be the first version to support both Twitter & FaceBook) Advantage Android/WP7/WebOS
• As reported by This is my next... earlier today, Apple introduced a new unified messaging service between iOS users called iMessage. iMessage will allow iOS users to send text and multimedia messages over Wi-Fi and 3G with read and delivery receipts and real-time typing indication. Messages will be pushed to all iOS devices a user owns.
This mimics BBM, but also mimics the Google Talk service found in most android phones, and of course IM apps. In other platforms, IM apps can integrate with your contacts list, for instance on TouchWiz Android phones, tapping an AIM account on your contact list launches AIM to that user (if AIM is installed or preinstalled on that phone). Same with WebOS and Sense Android phones. Most android phones also come with Google Talk. Advantage iOS, unless your friends are on other networks, not iMessage (which is iOS-only).
• Game Center will be enhanced with profile avatars, friend recommendations, and the ability to purchase new games within Game Center.
This mimics Playstation Certified Game Center and Windows Phone. OTOH, the iOS platform already has a huge base of games & users, so Advantage iOS.
• Mobile Safari will also get several new features including tabbed browsing and a Safari Reader feature where users can save articles for later reading in the Reading List, which will be synced across multiple iOS devices for easy access.
This mimics various popular apps on all platforms, including replacement browsers, extensions, and instapaper. This cannot really be quantified, because that would turn into an overall Mobile Safari vs. stock & replacement browser comparison. Suffice to say I prefer Android's stock browser, but like Mercury for iOS better than any browser on Android.
• A new Reminders app will offer task tracking in iOS 5 with geolocation capabilities to trigger reminders based on user location.
This mimics popular apps for all platforms. Some Android apps by manufactures integrate this in, but not all.
• Camera will get a shortcut from the lock screen for quicker access. New features include optional grid lines for better framing and on-device editing like cropping and rotating plus red-eye reduction. The volume up button can also be set to trigger the shutter.
Many other cameras on other phones have many of these features. Of course, iPhone 4 still has the best video recording, and good low-light performance among cameraphones. Many cameraphoness that dont have a lock screen shortcut have a dedicated camera button. Many cameraphones also use this button to trigger the shutter. Ae/AF lock, and other features, can be found in some other cameras. However, the biggest feature in a cameraphone is the camera (and flash) itself. The iPhone 4 is outmatched by the best other phones, but in the upper class of cameraphones in that category.
• Mail will also see some signification changes including rich text formatting, message flagging, draggable addresses.
These features are excellent. AFAIK most are only matched by Android apps that are third-party and not carrier installed. The standard mail client on other platforms doesn't compare.
• Other new system-wide features include a dictionary that can be accessed by any app and keyboard enhancements to modify the on-screen keyboard.
Cool. Android has a choice of keyboards, but to my knowledge none with that split design.
• A new app called News Stand is also coming to the App Store with iOS 5. It will be a counterpart to iBooks featuring newspapers and magazines and will download new issues automatically in the background.
Using those Sekrit Download-in-Background APIs are we? :D But cool!
iOS 5 will be available in the fall and will support the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, 3rd- and 4th-generation iPod touch, and iPad and iPad 2. Developers will be able to access a seed today.
Yay! Android 4.0 is coming holiday 2011.
 
this update is HUGE - it fills in all of the android / BB gaps and adds quite a few features they don't have. 1 big thing no one is talking about is AirPlay Mirroring. this is the first step in turning the iphone/ipad into a wii/xbox replacement. depending on how much control they give the game developers this could be huge.

A dedicated game console will always have better graphics then a device in the same price range. It will also have a universal control scheme. People buy iOS devices for a plethora of reasons. People don't buy a Wii to get on netflix, they don't get it to play music they get to play games. iOS devices, Android Devices will never replace consoles. Just because they sell a lot a day does not mean everyone of those will be used for games. But Every single PS3, Wii, Xbox360, PSP, and 3DS sold today will be used mainly to play games.
 
Can someone confirm if all these new features will work on an iPhone 3GS? If so, is it buggy? If it does work and isn't too buggy this will make my day :)

Too early to tell yet, check back around August/Early September, right now the beta SDK is probably incompatible with most apps and very bug same as all other initial beta releases.
 
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Rodimus Prime said:
Google can't sue and have no grounds to - Android is open source, so Apple can do what they wish.

open source does not mean you can steal the lay out. It comes with its own rules and requirements and Apple could easily be violating those.

Google copied their system from webos and the jailbroke iPhone system. Both of those developers work for Apple. Unraveling who stole what from whom would be rather complicated.
 
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