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Apple Privacy Chief: North Dakota Bill 'Threatens to Destroy the iPhone as You Know It'
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That's how it's been with the Mac for the 30+ years I've been using it. And Windows.
If you having a problem with an app, you contact the app developer, not Apple. It wouldn't/shouldn't be any different with an iPhone.
If it goes through, then just have a phone setting to allow the new unsigned apps. The unsigned apps don't even have to show up in the app store if you don't have the option selected. Also mark the icons of the unsigned apps in a way that makes it obvious (red outline or something) or if that ruffles feathers, brand the official apps with a mark (a star, or a green outline, or whatever).
This is just about making sideloading official, in a safer way than jailbreaking.
This is just about making sideloading official, in a safer way than jailbreaking.
Quoting Benedict Evans
You can believe all the following:
1: The sandboxed app store model is a huge step forward and ending it would be very bad for users and almost all developers
2: Some of Apple’s rules are bad and it too often enforces them badly
3: Apple’s app payment model is unsustainable
I think most people dont gasp the the above idea well. Especially when the world becomes Digital, and Smartphone has become essential to society. And before someone claiming Apple dont have Monopoly, considering the following.
Today, iPhone has 66% market share in the United States, 75% of U.S. App Store revenues, and over 80% of time spent on the mobile internet.
You can believe all the following:
1: The sandboxed app store model is a huge step forward and ending it would be very bad for users and almost all developers
2: Some of Apple’s rules are bad and it too often enforces them badly
3: Apple’s app payment model is unsustainable
I think most people dont gasp the the above idea well. Especially when the world becomes Digital, and Smartphone has become essential to society. And before someone claiming Apple dont have Monopoly, considering the following.
Today, iPhone has 66% market share in the United States, 75% of U.S. App Store revenues, and over 80% of time spent on the mobile internet.
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Feel free to point me to examples, but I don't generally see people blaming Apple under that scenario. I certainly see people on this forum who like to hack around—I'm among them—but this isn't an Apple support site.
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Hard disagree. Every time I ponder buying a piece of Mac software I check to see if it's available on the independent developer's site as a direct purchase. That way 100% of my money goes to them, versus Apple taking a huge cut. I was using a Mac for a long long time before the App Store even existed and I am very grateful it's still open enough of a platform that Apple doesn't have a stranglehold over every single aspect of it. In fact, some things I use regularly aren't even allowed on the App Store, like Audio Hijack from Rogue Amoeba. They're a very reputable developer with longstanding ties to the Mac but their software has capabilities that exceed what App Store apps are allowed to do.
The iPhone was locked down from the very beginning, and that's why we're seeing moves lately for Apple to open up the platform a bit: choosing default apps, for one. I hope the trend continues.
Umm...this argument might be valid if Mac OS wasn't a thing. And how is some tiny subset of Hackintoshers "blaming" Apple any grounds for decision making?
Oh noes, some random person somewhere blamed someone for something => iOS needs to remain closed to one app store!!!!!
They should! If you buy something it should be yours to use. How about if your Honda would only accept Certified Honda™ accessories you buy from the dealer at whatever price they set? You wouldn't agree to that, but somehow we're used to letting tech companies play by whatever monopolistic rules they set.
So lot of Walmarts have Subways in them - they have a deal of course. This would be like the state forcing them to also have Burger Kings, but without a deal.
One of the things that’s always concerned me about this is the high risk of fragmentation, requiring folks to deal with a variety of different stores to get the apps they want.
Once upon a time there was this service called Netflix that had almost every show and movie you wanted to see, all in one place. Now most of that content is scattered exclusively across a dozen other streaming services each run by the content owners, requiring subscriptions to multiple services to get everything you used to be able to watch in one place.
That’s obviously an imperfect comparison, as developers can sell on multiple stores much more easily than Hollywood studios can, but I suspect it wouldn’t be long before third-party app stores began popping up from big content owners — this is obviously what Epic already wants to do — and others start trying to craft lucrative marketing and promotional deals and other terms to lure developers into selling exclusively on their stores rather than the main App Store. We could find ourselves having to dig through multiple app stores every time we want to find a new app, as well as deal with other issues such as losing access to updates because a developer decides to change stores because they find a better deal elsewhere…. And that’s not even getting into how in-app subscriptions and purchases would work.
Once upon a time there was this service called Netflix that had almost every show and movie you wanted to see, all in one place. Now most of that content is scattered exclusively across a dozen other streaming services each run by the content owners, requiring subscriptions to multiple services to get everything you used to be able to watch in one place.
That’s obviously an imperfect comparison, as developers can sell on multiple stores much more easily than Hollywood studios can, but I suspect it wouldn’t be long before third-party app stores began popping up from big content owners — this is obviously what Epic already wants to do — and others start trying to craft lucrative marketing and promotional deals and other terms to lure developers into selling exclusively on their stores rather than the main App Store. We could find ourselves having to dig through multiple app stores every time we want to find a new app, as well as deal with other issues such as losing access to updates because a developer decides to change stores because they find a better deal elsewhere…. And that’s not even getting into how in-app subscriptions and purchases would work.
How does someone else using an app from outside the App Store affect you one bit? People buy and use Mac apps all the time that never touch the MacOS App Store. You have a problem with that too?
FFS, I dont want multiple app stores on my phone. It's going to turn into PC gaming where you have to have 5 different services installed, all running in the background just to keep your games updated. It's a pain in the arse and it's unecessary.
you people make it seem like if apple enables sideloading, that the ghost of Steve Jobs will come to your house and make you download malware and pirated versions of your favorite developers’ apps.
Actually you can have issues with your warranty if you install something on your car that's not from the manufacturer.
But they could totally put similar conditions on the App Store, like a warning message that you need to confirm like 3 times to be sure, and then you can do whatever you want.
Here's another example - Nintendo has been selling games for 40 years now. If a 3rd party wants to release a game on a Nintendo system they pay Nintendo a small fee. Everyone sees that as fair... we always have.... for 40 years!!! After all Nintendo did a lot of the legwork to release that system. Should other companies be able to sell games for a Nintendo system without paying Nintendo any money at all?
what about apple gives people the option to unlock their phones to give access to alternate app stores but in doing so they lose access to the Apple App store and any icloud services most people wouldnt do it and maybe just having the option would appease the courts
No, I bought an iPhone because the hardware is excellent and iOS has a well-designed UI. In fact, my iPhone is Jailbroken.
And what I most dislike about my iPhone is the fact that I need to literally hack it myself in order to install the software I want, and that I have to miss out on updates as a result.
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Give the option and see what users do with it, I suspect Apple's mainstream consumer which makes up the vast majority of their users will remain with the Apple App Store as they have confidence in it.
I mean I have confidence in it, and I don't particularly like it.
I mean I have confidence in it, and I don't particularly like it.
The blind leading the blind. I'm sure a state senator in ND has a deep understanding of all the issues involved. I wonder how many iPhones/iPads Apple sells in ND?
Auto manufacturers also have warranties so technically you really can only use certified accessories or risk voiding the warranty. Same as everything with a warranty honestly. They’re playing the same monopolistic rules as everyone else.
No one is making anyone buy a new iPhone when there are open source phones out there, the same as no one is forcing anyone to buy a new car with a warranty.
If something ain’t broke don’t touch it, let it be, if people aren’t happy they can go open up their own App Store or switch to android, simple as that 🤷♂️
One of the things I don't understand is why so many people have a problem with Apple taking 30% of developer profits on the app store. Leaving devs with 70% seems like a pretty good deal to me (full disclosure: I'm not a developer). Apple is in business to make money, not give stuff away for free.
Do I really want to run anti malware software on my iPhone? Do I want to give free rains on social media companies and the way they use the user data? Apps side loading some crap once you let them in... In all honesty, in what alternative universe is that benefiting the consumer? Sure I might get apps 10%-15% cheaper from the third party store but I can also get an app with a “Trojan skimming my ApplePay from that same place”.
The fact remains, my iPhone and iPad are my most secure digital devices because all of the software has been verified by Apple and by huge number of users. If something bad happens I can always point my finger to Apple. With third parties providing the store services and the infrastructure the whole security scene will change.
The fact remains, my iPhone and iPad are my most secure digital devices because all of the software has been verified by Apple and by huge number of users. If something bad happens I can always point my finger to Apple. With third parties providing the store services and the infrastructure the whole security scene will change.