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Apple Pro Machines -- Still Coming?

9800 cards may add another variable...

tech support has just learned that there is a specific issue with the ATI 9800 Pro cards in G5s and (only) the 23 CD. the 9800s are backordered until may. this follows an issue with the 9600 cards that was only recently resolved.

whatever the revisions or updates, it will be interesting to see if they ship machines with their high-end card when paired with the 23CD...
 
visor said:
just yesterday, everyone was hopping mad because apple makes a promo with <any> g5 and a nice 23" display - thinking that this definately means no updates, and today someone points out that <any> g5 might as well be a new update, and everyone is glowing with joy.
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Actually, it was the change in the memory offer that spelled "patience" for a lot of us. Please have some sympathy for those of us waiting eagerly to buy a new powermac. We realize the best time to buy is right when items are announced to maximize the system's usable lifetime and when any of us saves enough money to buy the one of the best computers available on the planet, we're ready to do it now! :)
 
we're just begging for anything at this point...
the rumors have been so dry that now we are grasping
at straws on a see-saw...
i hope theres some updates soon... but its already
the end of march... if we get a g5 speed bump now
what will that do to the timeframe of the dual 3gig's...
knowing apple... even if the bump came tomorrow
they wouldnt ship for a month... thats may... are they
really gonna bump to dual 3gig's by end of summer...
march 30 dual ???'s
august 31 [tuesday] dual 3gig's
thats only five months... how long have the current
g5's been out without an update...
they might as well just wait and slap the dual 3gig's on us...
now that would be one hell of a speed bump!!!
and one worth the wait... ill buy one... and a 30" monitor please...
 
Why don't we stop denying it and just admit it...

Apple is NEVER going to release updates, ever again! :eek:









At least then when the upgrades are released, we will be happily surprised :)
 
Dippo said:
Why don't we stop denying it and just admit it...

Apple is NEVER going to release updates, ever again! :eek:

At least then when the upgrades are released, we will be happily surprised :)
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What's the bet that all this fuss over the Mini iPod has forced them to devote their focus to production of them and getting iTunes stores organised world wide at the expense of other hardware release dates...
 
Sounds like spin control to me

From AppleInsider, "Apple's latest 'Brilliant savings' promotion should not be taken as an indication that new Power Mac and display models will be delayed until Apple's World Wide Developers Conferences (WWDC), sources close to the company said."

IMO, this sounds like damage control from someone "close to the company." It's obvious that Apple would not want people to think that this promo represents a lame-duck-style sell off and that new and better machines are going to be released in June at WWDC.

The current Power Mac G5s certainly are NOT lame-duck (they're actually very nice machines). However, the utter lack of any meaningful rumors surrounding new Power Macs, the delay in the Xserves, and these new promos probably indicate only one thing -- no new Power Macs until WWDC.

In any case, what I would like to see is a G5-based PowerBook. Give me one of those BEFORE WWDC and Apple will be sitting pretty regardless of when updated Power Macs appear.
 
even if the PM's are released in the near future, we know that they are not going to ship for a long time like usual. hence this really wouldn't interfere with the promotion.
 
swissmann said:
Last rumor noting the display promo had everyone saying no new Powermacs for a year. This rumor seems to have turned the opinion around. (Funny how much we sway with rumors). I'm guessing this rumor is wrong and that we will jump to 3 GHz at the end of summer. Maybe we should have a macbets.com where we can place wagers on apple updates against each other. :)
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This place is like drugs, there are good trips and bad ones.

And I think there already is a betting site for macs.
 
3 years betwen updates?

All I know is that there were 3 years between the Apple /// and the Apple //e (four years between the ][plus and the //e), so perhaps we have a few more YEARS to wait? :p
 
It's about time APPLE!!!

Apple ... if you are listening...... bring on those g5 updates ..... you already have many of us waiting ..... some a long time and others just tapping in. APPLE ..... give to your fans what they want ...... SOON .... like in the next day or so ...... you're making many Mac Nuts nuts.
 
Wonder Boy said:
i'm so disheartend right now, i dont even care. apple has crushed my spirit, and nothing short of revamping of the entire line will save me.
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I could say something witty here, but decided against it. :rolleyes:
 
AppleInsider didn't seem that optimistic about new models.

So, even if the promo doesn't mean no new models until WWDC, AI has also said that we wouldn't see new models in quantity until May at the earliest.

If we take AI at face value (a mistake, I know), although it's possible that Apple will announce new machines in the very near future, they won't be on the shelves or in our hands for at least another month or so.
 
:)

in Reply to Griffindor73

That was 1 of the funniest posts i've read in a while. I'm still laughing at it. Keep it up son.

On a different note, let's hope apple release dual 3ghz so we can go into dells website and fill their forums with much deserved banter.

BY THE POWER Of GREYSKULL!!! (points sword to baby green Tiger)
 
fpnc said:
From AppleInsider, "Apple's latest 'Brilliant savings' promotion should not be taken as an indication that new Power Mac and display models will be delayed until Apple's World Wide Developers Conferences (WWDC), sources close to the company said."

IMO, this sounds like damage control from someone "close to the company." It's obvious that Apple would not want people to think that this promo represents a lame-duck-style sell off and that new and better machines are going to be released in June at WWDC.
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Yep, damage control.

17"s and 20"s move pretty quickly I imagine, but 23"s are at a price point that is too high for home users

Why push 23" screens out?

Because
(a) too many are in their inventory.

(b) they plan to drop the price at WWDC and don't want people to feel pinched if they buy in the next 3 months

(c) of that new better screen with a new form factor on the way at WWDC and they need to clear channels & dont want buyers of the current 23" to be too pissed when the new model appears because they got their cheaper

(d) all of the above...
 
ccuilla said:
Whew. Someone said it.
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Hey! I kinda said that in the other mammoth thread on this subject.

to quote me
Also, anyone who is going to sit here and tell the rest of us that their Dual 2 GHz G5 just isn't fast enough anymore...is dillusional. I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement but there is always room for improvement. It's the nature of computers. Look, if you need G5 power now, then go ahead and buy a G5 now. Even if you wait for the updated PowerMacs they will also be "too slow" 3-6 months after their intro. You will be twirling in this endless vortex for the rest of time. So just don't get caught up in that game. If a new dual 2.0 or 1.8 G5 will take your work or computing experience to a whole new level then go ahead and buy it. You will not be dissapointed. If you can afford to wait...then wait. No matter what we do, let's leave the Apple-bashing and the trolling at home because even if they don't intro 3GHz G5s until WWDC...they've still beaten their predictions.

:D

Rustus
 
....

Lets get some interesting news..., like a top Apple employee confirms new iMac G5 to come out in one month as a celebration to the aniversary of the mac- even tho we had one... ;)
 
port to INTEL architecture

I was a mac fanatic until I got screwed by Apple in their 1710AV fiasco, so I switched over to Windows NT in '97. I switched back to Apple a few months ago for FCP, and I love the minamalistic interface of Safari and the user experience of OS X - it's great to finally have a stable mac os. Don't get me wrong, I think the G5s are a spectacularly designed chip and computer. However, Apple needs to play on the same playing field as PCs when it comes to hardware. If I could run OS X on a dual AMD 64 running on a nForce3 250 and upgrade components as I please, I and many others would be much happier and Apple would quickly increase it's installed user base and marketshare. I'm sick of BS "deals" like the RAM discount. And I don't want to hear anymore of the lame argument that proprietary hardware allows Apple to have more stability - just look at their screwed up proprietary power supplies in dual g5s that prevent audio professionals from even having the CHOICE to have an adequate replacement. This is 2004, we're running a Unix variant, and the PC components are plenty standardized. I'm not neccessarily asking for support for dated hardware like an AccelEclipse, but at least let me choose from the full line of future ATI and NVIDIA cards. I really, really do love OS X, but I've left Apple before when they screwed me over and I'll do it again if I feel that they're jerking me around too much. I don't care about iPods, I'm a professional who needs great tools like FCP and DVDSP, but Apple, please remember there are other tools like Avid out there.
 
My guess is that we will see new Powerbooks (modest speedbumps + updated graphics cards) in the near future, possibly tomorrow. Perhaps these will happen before PowerMac update. That way Apple will have a further 6 months or so to get the G5 Powerbooks ready, which I suspect will be announced Aug to Oct 2004 timeframe.
 
Nice promotion, a $500 rebate brings the 23" into the realm of consideration. As for the release date of the new G5's (I am planning on purchasing later this year), Apple can take as long as they want. When you are dropping that much money, you want to know that they took the time to make things work right. This hasn't always been the case in the past.

You know I'll be here watching for feed back when they come out, before I buy mine. ;)
 
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