Hmm. Then I guess they only have it for postpaid. That must be fun. I hate carriers. I guess you’ll need to check their app or call them.
Just to make sure, you are on iOS 16, right?
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Apple Promotes Benefits of Using iPhone 14 With eSIM While Traveling Abroad
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Hmm. Then I guess they only have it for postpaid. That must be fun. I hate carriers. I guess you’ll need to check their app or call them.
Just to make sure, you are on iOS 16, right?
There's no real relationship between what works/makes sense for one market vs another in the way you're inferring.
And the headphone comparison is totally different, especially since one can still use a wired headphone with a dongle. There are no dongles for physical SIM usage on an iPhone (which of course would be an awful experience anyhow)
This will definitely be a growing pain for sure but eventually everyone will adapt to e-sim. I've never been more glad that t-mobile offers free international data.
but there is, I keep seeing posts about U.S. carriers not supporting esim but never a list of carriers that don't support. I made a post somewhere in the forums on all the U.S. carriers that support esim and that list covered any carrier that I ever heard of someone using. If you try searching for carriers that do not support esim in the U.S. I cannot find anything so please let me know if there are because off what I can find every carrier in the U.S. *can* support esim now if you have xyz plan that doesn't support it then that is your choice with the carrier. The U.S. is the perfect market to attempt this if anything, Apple knows that and that is why it wasn't an immediate worldwide release. Now do I think that U.S. customers should be able to easily order a "international model if you will" sure I support that.
Get your hands on a "international model" sure it isn't as easy as a dongle, and even technically a dongle for the headphones isn't even a perfect solution because every connection between lowers the quality of audio. Which is what the audiophiles complain about.
That I'll agree with you on
And for "support", the point people are making is that "everyone" supports a simple physical SIM.
eSIM is a huge mixed bag of supported or not and then also the process involved differs across the board.
The larger point remains that eSIM + Physical SIM as an option is a better device if one had to pick.
It's simply more flexible. You can get the benefits, if desired, from eSIM, while still being able to go Physical if you prefer or just need it in a pinch.
For Americans looking to get an iPhone14 with a SIM tray, you could get the Canadian one.
iPhone14/128 is 1099CAD, which according to Google, is equivalent to 833USD. A regular US iPhone14/128 is $829 for the SIM/Carrier-Free. Not much difference in price.
Looks like the Canadian phone has all of the same bands/frequencies as the US models, except it doesn't have the 5G NR mmWave stuff.
If you don't need that, but do need the physical SIM, go Canadian.
iPhone14/128 is 1099CAD, which according to Google, is equivalent to 833USD. A regular US iPhone14/128 is $829 for the SIM/Carrier-Free. Not much difference in price.
Looks like the Canadian phone has all of the same bands/frequencies as the US models, except it doesn't have the 5G NR mmWave stuff.
If you don't need that, but do need the physical SIM, go Canadian.
I converted my phone’s nano sim into a iPad Pro’s eSIM once.
I had no idea you can’t transfer back to your existing SIM, eSIM transfers between iOS devices and iPadOS didn’t work (even though I am offered to convert my primary SIM to eSIM on either device).
Fortunately, the 13 Pro I ordered had a new nano sim. Saved me a trip to a carrier store.
It’s a good idea to keep a few unused carrier SIM cards if you can get them for free on postpaid.
I had no idea you can’t transfer back to your existing SIM, eSIM transfers between iOS devices and iPadOS didn’t work (even though I am offered to convert my primary SIM to eSIM on either device).
Fortunately, the 13 Pro I ordered had a new nano sim. Saved me a trip to a carrier store.
It’s a good idea to keep a few unused carrier SIM cards if you can get them for free on postpaid.
Oh, yeah, that's another thing. With a physical SIM, I can easily move the SIM back and forth between my phone and my iPad. With an eSIM, I'm just screwed.
Simple answer don't buy an iPhone 14 i'm sticking with my 13 pro max for another year i have multiple phones and i need to swap the sim in any phone i want to use thanks Apple
Gosh!! You're a freaking GENIUS!!!! I can't imagine how everyone else missed that solution!!
There are plenty of eSIM options for people who are visiting China. It's when you're there long term and need to be on a local carrier that it becomes an issue.
We've been down this road many times before. Getting rid of floppy drives is going to prove to be Apple's downfall. Nobody will buy a computer without a CD-ROM. Now that the SCSI port is removed, Macs are useless trash. And on and on.
Apple's got a lot more information about what carriers are doing and planning than we do. They're rarely wrong on these bets.
I am a frequent traveler who always buys local SIMs because it's much cheaper and the data speed is much better, and for that reason I would not travel with a SIMless phone in 2022 or maybe 2023. But based on twenty years of watching this cycle play out, I have absolute faith that they've read the handwriting on the wall - and written some of it - and in the very near future people will remember SIM cards like they remember VHS tapes.
And if those carriers want to continue in business with iPhone customers they will shortly adapt their processes to become compatible with eSim technology.
Sure just like other countries are mandating apple to still provide earphones and a wall adapter. Apple does not dictate local regulations nor can they enforce them.
See, now that's interesting. I wonder if various countries besides China may start declaring that phones sold in country are required to have a physical SIM card slot.
Not that it helps me any, unless the U.S. were to do so and I don't see that ever happening.
You have the call or go on the website and give them your EID number ( I did it in store). Once that is done you would go to “Add Cellar Plan” and follow the steps to finish setting up eSim
I agree. As long as there is even one carrier in a country that supports eSIM, I think US-based iPhone users are fully covered and have nothing to complain about.
Maybe....if you're willing to ignore all the other reasons for having a physical SIM card.
Let us know when it actually happens because saying and actually doing are two different things. Besides that, even if they already implemented it, there are still a lot of places that won't be adopting eSIM anytime soon. Reducing the amount of options for connectivity and using the excuse of "forcing carriers" as a justification for it is naive and irresponsible no matter how you look at it.
It's always the ones who think Apple has absolute power everywhere lol.
Trying to play knowledgeable about global cellular markets and thinking that eSIM will be adopted everywhere, well, that's another level.
Israel's not on the list, although I do believe that you can get eSIM there. Still your options are much less.
A pretty retrograde and unnecessary step. ESIMs are rare to say the least outside of the US so good luck avoiding roaming charges if you're traveling around Asia or even Europe.
Fortunately due to the rarity of ESIM support internationally I can't see Apple ditching the SIM slot worldwide anytime soon. It could be there for years yet.
Fortunately due to the rarity of ESIM support internationally I can't see Apple ditching the SIM slot worldwide anytime soon. It could be there for years yet.
