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Apple Publicly Responds to Complaints of Purple Lens Flare on iPhone 5 Photos

OMG, you devoted Apple fans will eat up anything, won't you?
I've used many cameras, including some really crappy ones and first ever smartphone cameras, and I've NEVER had this effect. Even old iPhones never had this effect.

STOP eating Apple's BS. The longer you do it, the crappier quality control Apple will have in the future.
 
phuocsandiego said:
Apparently you're part of the photographically ignorant masses. There is both flare and chromatic aberration in the sample photo. It's the chromatic aberration that's giving you the purple. It's the combination of both effects that's giving the results shown. Perhaps more so on the iPhone 5 but again, absolutely nothing new. The lens is simply failing to focus all colors to the same point... nothing new here.

(But to be technically correct, you can have purple flare.)
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DP Review's reviewers would disagree with you, this isn't consistent with CA, it is lens flare and internal reflections.
 
Every lens ever made has lens flare issues of some sort.

Even Nokias new super camera suffers from lens flare and you can experience such from any number of pro cameras and lens combos. It is one of the reasons for lens hoods on pro cameras.

Gemütlichkeit said:
I imagine it's some coating of the lens. If you want to take a picture with the sun slightly out of frame then I guess you're screwed. Big deal.
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You are not screwed anymore than any other camera user.

Between this and antenna gate I'm really beginning to believe the people that declare Apple users to be complete idiots. Like antenna gate where it appears that people have never actually setup a TV antenna or other aerial it appears that these whiners have never made use of a real camera or optical system.
 
This is a well known effect in photography. Very high quality cameras have less of this effect but if you hold them wrong then you will get this and other photographic imaging problems. User's can't expect to point-n-shoot under the worst conditions and get National Geographic quality photos. It takes skill, equipment and doing it right to get good quality photos. This is a phone.
 
MVRL said:
i like how all of a sudden everyone's either a 30yr pro photographer or has a pro DSLR with $2k lens..

4 vs 5, the lens flare turned purple for no reason, i guess this is normal, and the 4 just had a worse camera that didn't produce the purple flare. And yet all your 50 grand cameras produced the purple flare
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They don't! Chromatic aberation exist in almost every lens but most people wouldn't notice it. Don't confuse it with lens flare.

My 3gs doesn't have this problem.
 
Oracle1729 said:
Wait a sec. People are taking pictures with a lens not much bigger than a grain of sugar, using a camera that's worth under $10, and they're surprised there's too much chromatic aberration?

If you want to take a grab of a price label at a store, whip out your iPhone. If you want a picture, use a real camera.

Don't blame apple because you don't know how to pick the right tool for the right job. It's a CELL PHONE.
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This is just as ignorant in the other direction. You can take some beautiful, useful, postable, even printable, enlargeable, and frame-able photos with your iPhone 5, 4s, or 4. This goes for recent phone models from other companies, too.

You just can't expect it to be the best camera for every photo situation.
 
Being an Apple fan I always hated that stereotype.

But this latest round of stupidity has me siding with the people that think Apple fans are stupid ignorant city folks without a clue when it comes to the physical world around them. I mean really have these people ever picked up a real camera or adjusted an antenna in their whole lives? It use to be common knowledge that you compose a shot with the sun behind you when ever possible, for many reasons one of which was to eliminate lens flare.

Sadly in the current time frame with this gibberish on the Internet, it reflects badly on America in general. It is to the point that the world sees Americans as a whole as ignorant and uneducated. People getting spun up about lens flare or antenna issues just highlights and reinforces the idea in many minds that we are a bunch of imbeciles. Sites like AI just add fuel to the fire when they print garbage stories like the lens flare related ones. In the end I'm really disappointed with the general trend of web sites to publish and promote the most ignorant of our society.

taedouni said:
I love Apple but I think that they have a lot of ignorant fans. Lens flare is not a new thing. Does it really matter what color the flare is?
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erzhik said:
OMG, you devoted Apple fans will eat up anything, won't you?
I've used many cameras, including some really crappy ones and first ever smartphone cameras, and I've NEVER had this effect....
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Perhaps, but it is clear that you do not understood the principles behind the machines you used to take photographs. Don't blame Apple for your own lack of understanding.

Let me put it another way: When you can create a prism that doesn't create a rainbow, then you might have a basis for complaining about the iP5's camera. Until then, do what any sane, rational person does: (1) avoid creating the flair in the first place by changing the angle of you phone relative to bright light sources and (2) if (1) fails, use Photoshop or Gimp (free) to digitally edit out the flair.
 
erzhik said:
OMG, you devoted Apple fans will eat up anything, won't you?
I've used many cameras, including some really crappy ones and first ever smartphone cameras, and I've NEVER had this effect. Even old iPhones never had this effect.

STOP eating Apple's BS. The longer you do it, the crappier quality control Apple will have in the future.
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Sorry, but Apple cannot defy the law of physics or lens flares for that matter.
 
erzhik said:
OMG, you devoted Apple fans will eat up anything, won't you?
I've used many cameras, including some really crappy ones and first ever smartphone cameras, and I've NEVER had this effect. Even old iPhones never had this effect.

STOP eating Apple's BS. The longer you do it, the crappier quality control Apple will have in the future.
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I guess you've never tried to take a picture in a situation with strong back lighting. Every camera I've ever had (although admittedly all of those were point and shoots; I've yet to embrace the world of the DSLR, mostly due to the size and lack of pocketability of such cameras) has had fringing and flare when in certain lighting situations (well, except of my older film-based cameras, which had flare but little or no fringing, presumably because photographic film is less sensitive then digital sensors are to UV light). Several of my cameras refused to shoot at all when trying to take pictures in these situations, while others produced a white streak emanating from the light source, or a halo around the light source, and all of them produced very grainy images when the lighting behind or beside the subject was too strong.
 
People who complain about lens flare know absolutely NOTHING about photography. If only someone made a magnetic lens hood for the iPhone. I still probably would never use it though.

Get over it people, its a phone. It will flare a little. Learn how to point your camera away from the sun. Its simple.
 
The horrible purple flares of a pro DSLR.
 

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I've worked with medium format cameras costing 10 times as much.

You know what, no lens is perfect!!! That is the number one problem here. Yes you can get lens flare on a $5000 dollar lens, it might be better controlled on a medium format lens but you can still compose a picture where it is a problem.

So yeah there is a problem here with ignorant people trying to blame Apple for their own ignorance. What is shocking here though is the media, sites like AI, even bothering to pursue this crap. You would think that people running a web site would have a limited amount of intelligence and an ability to actually edit copy. I'm not sure which is worst here, the ignorant or those that promote and exploit them.

Crzyrio said:
My iPhone Camera doesnt operate like a 500$ Digital SLR, it is all Apples Fault!
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Sadly that is today's mentality, if you are too ignorant to use a tool properly blame the manufacture. It happens with cell phones, power tools, lawn mowers and just about everything else. It is the wonderful world of entitlements, everybody is entitled to be stupid without repercussions.
 
linuxcooldude said:
Let me guess, some kind of lens filter was applied?
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Just a stopped down aperture by the looks of it. I gave similar examples taken with a 4s earlier in the thread and yet still people are insisting that unpleasant purple lens flare is inevitable. It isn't. Lens flare is, but the quality of that flare varies enormously, with the purple examples being the worst end of the range you might expect.
 
MGCP said:
Just a stopped down aperture by the looks of it. I gave similar examples taken with a 4s earlier in the thread and yet still people are insisting that unpleasant purple lens flare is inevitable. It isn't. Lens flare is, but the quality of that flare varies enormously, with the purple examples being the worst end of the range you might expect.
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You are absolutely right. Good to know the 4s is better since i need a new phone pretty soon.
 
econgeek said:
People getting upset about this--like those idiots complaining about Apple maps-- just show me that people really *are* getting stupider as time goes on.
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Yes, they are. And it's 'becoming more stupid' not 'getting stupider'.
 
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