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To my eyes the iPhone 5 still looks MUCH better and more natural. It is TOTALLY natural to have flare of a particular color with different lenses. I think that's what Apple is referring to. Folks really like to gang up on the mistakes in their releases. Maps deserves the pile-up. Lens flare does not. It is natural and you will find it even on an expensive camera.

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Soon after the release of the iPhone 5, some users began noticing a purple flare or halo showing up in photos taken with the device's camera pointed at or near bright light sources. The issue is certainly not unique to the iPhone 5, but it has caused concern for some users.

Photos with purple flare taken by iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 (Source: The Next Web)
Last week, Gizmodo reported that Apple had responded to address the issue, with Apple's support staff providing an emailed response to a user inquiring about the purple flare. According to Apple's engineers, the issue is indeed normal and users are advised to point their phones away from bright light sources when taking photos.Following that private email response regarding the issue, Apple has now posted a public support document recommending similar action to minimize the issue.The iPhone 5 uses a similar camera to that found in the iPhone 4S, although Apple reduced the camera's thickness by 20% in order to fit into the thinner body of the iPhone 5. Apple did, however, add a several enhancements to the camera in the iPhone 5, moving to a sapphire lens cover, improved image signal processing and noise reduction, and a new dynamic low-light mode.

Article Link: Apple Publicly Responds to Complaints of Purple Lens Flare on iPhone 5 Photos
 
i like how all of a sudden everyone's either a 30yr pro photographer or has a pro DSLR with $2k lens..

4 vs 5, the lens flare turned purple for no reason, i guess this is normal, and the 4 just had a worse camera that didn't produce the purple flare. And yet all your 50 grand cameras produced the purple flare.

Pro tip: throw your pro dslr cameras away and grab a iphone 4!!

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sincerely,

-Joseph Nicéphore Niépce

Oh, look! A re-cropping of photos from the article that attempt to make the framing differences less apparent, but still fails to do so! Check out the position of the road and trees in both pictures, the photos were taken at different angles. (Which oddly enough, is *exactly* what Apple, and any skilled photographer, would tell you to do to avoid this effect.)

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care to explain why iphone 4's camera and my cheap sony w300 don't produce that purple effect, while the iphone 5 and the expensive camera you claim to own suffer from that?

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Maybe I have to quote "Albert Einstein, Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former"

Look, yet *another* re-cropping of some photos from the web, which are taken with the cameras pointed at different angles! (Exactly what Apple has suggested, and any skilled photographer would suggest to avoid the problem.)

Careful with the Einstein quote, it's double-edged, and can cut its wielder just as easily as its target.
 
For all the "photographers" claiming that it is photography 101 never to take pictures into the sun, and how their pro cameras have the same problems - seriously! I've got plenty of great shots taken into the sun, it can be perfect for silhouettes, backlighting etc. Presumably you know that if you keep your lenses clean, stop down your aperture and shoot towards the sun it creates a very pleasing star shaped flare effect (which surprisingly none if my Canon lenses renders in purple!).

You're doing the right thing and avoiding putting the sun at the wrong angle relative your lens assembly. If you did the same thing these 'photographers' are doing, you'd see similar effects, even with your Canon lenses.
 
Really??

You get Lens Flare and Chromatic Aberrations when you point your camera at the sun??

DUH!!!

This happens with ANY camera!! I have made my living behind the lens for the past 27 years and this happens with every lens!!

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My sentiments exactly.
 
More important than the imac is a refresh to the Mac Pro. I dont think apple gives a crap about pro users anymore though.



Why should they? You guys don't produce nearly as much profit as the consumer market. Apple is a business. They are not a charitable organization catering to self-satisfied "professionals".

You think Apple owes you something? I got news for you: The only people that Apple owes anything to are the guys on Wall Street who own the company. The pension funds, the hedge funds, and the other institutional investors.

Sheesh.
 
I can't believe someone calling themselves a pro just criticised the sample pics posted by Joseph without addressing the fact that in identical circumstances the iPhone 5 has ugly purple flaring and the iPhone 4 is white (which reflects my experience).

I'm about to buy a 5 and I want to know if this is an issue for all of them b

Even a non-Pro can look at those pictures and see they're not 'identical circumstances'. The angle at which the photos were taken is significantly different. (Even when the photos are cropped to try to *hide* that fact, it's still easily apparent. More so when looking at the originals.)

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I'm sorry, it doesn't matter who you are or what you've done before. It's all about the way you presented yourself. The way you replied reflected your character, which is despicable.

You could be the best photographer or w/e, which you obviously aren't, but apparently you don't know jack about this issue and you have your head buried so far up Apple's behind. I am sorry.

I provided a sample comparison between the 5 and the 4. Being the pro photographer you claim to be, you not only couldn't provide a solid explanation about the issue, you resorted to personal attacks about how the shots were taken. I am sorry, you deserve no respect.

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sincerely,

-Joseph Nicéphore Niépce

The photos you're using (and re-cropping) to 'demonstrate' that the issue is somehow 'unique' to the iPhone 5 are piss-poor for that purpose. The angle the photos were taken at changes *significantly* between the two photos. (Where's the road in both pictures? Where's the corner of the roof in both pictures?)

Since this effect is *highly* dependent upon the angle at which the light enters the lens, it's no wonder that both of these photos don't show the same effect.

Other photos, which *do* carefully frame the bright light source the same way, *do* show the same effect (on a wide variety of cameras).

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This used to be an issue on Digital Cameras years ago. Since then, the lens manufacturers have come up with exotic coating for the glass to eliminate the flares. The coating and technology to do so gets expensive on the higher end lenses.

Coming to the iPhone, the team was so intent on using a new material (Sapphire?) that they completely overlooked the fact that it had to be coated. It wouldn't have cost that much to coat that small glass.

If you say its a phone camera for god's sake.

Well its an iPhone, and attention to detail is their hallmark. I think the engineering team let this slip though the cracks.

It still *is* an issue on digital cameras. The coatings help *reduce* the issue, but they can't eliminate it completely. Larger lenses have room for internal baffles which help absorb incident light, rather than allowing it to be reflected back on the camera's sensor, which also help reduce the effect, but even *those* can't eliminate it completely.
 
While being Apple must be great in a lot of ways, this is one that must be a real pain -- idiots who complain about your product when they are completely clueless about how to use it. What next -- "Apple Responds to Complaints about Aluminum Case Denting when Used as a Hammer"?
 
I assume you are pointing out how Mike et al are trolling. Any digital recording is subject to clipping if the sound level in any given frequency exceeds the sensitivity set for a source. This applies equally to $20 toy microphones and multimillion dollar recording studios. The issue is that the sensitivity of the iPhone microphone is set for normal conversation, not for recording grenade explosions or rock concerts at 3 feet away from the speakers. Being located 3 feet from the speaker stack would have actually been the worst place to record the concert from, next to actually placing the phone on the stack.
Dude, I know -- it was a parody. I figured that the name of the fictitious interviewee, "Mike Rofoni", along with complaints about the phone's inability for "near-field recording of grenade impacts, low-flying passenger jets and Harley-Davidson engines with the muffler removed" were dead giveaways. ;)
 
Many ignorant posts here from iPhone "photographers" who know nothing about photography, lens flare, coatings, or how an image sensor works. Those of us who have been taking professional calibre photos with pro DSLR cameras are very well aware of the positive and negative effects of pointing your camera at the sun or another bright light source.

Instead of blaming Apple, why don't you get an education?
 
This is completely stupid. People who complain about this obviously are not familiar with some basics of photography. What I see in those two pictures is a good increase in contrast. That's a good thing in my book. Sometimes that comes with a trade off with respect to flare etc.
My favorite $1600 lens does the same thing.

Other than that people need to get a life. It's a little phone camera for Pete's sake.
 
Really??

You get Lens Flare and Chromatic Aberrations when you point your camera at the sun??

DUH!!!

This happens with ANY camera!! I have made my living behind the lens for the past 27 years and this happens with every lens!!

Y

SHHHH! Logic is going to hurt some people's brains! :)

Sense, you have it ... I'm happy to report.
 
Even a non-Pro can look at those pictures and see they're not 'identical circumstances'. The angle at which the photos were taken is significantly different. (Even when the photos are cropped to try to *hide* that fact, it's still easily apparent. More so when looking at the originals.)

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The photos you're using (and re-cropping) to 'demonstrate' that the issue is somehow 'unique' to the iPhone 5 are piss-poor for that purpose. The angle the photos were taken at changes *significantly* between the two photos. (Where's the road in both pictures? Where's the corner of the roof in both pictures?)

Since this effect is *highly* dependent upon the angle at which the light enters the lens, it's no wonder that both of these photos don't show the same effect.

Other photos, which *do* carefully frame the bright light source the same way, *do* show the same effect (on a wide variety of cameras).

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It still *is* an issue on digital cameras. The coatings help *reduce* the issue, but they can't eliminate it completely. Larger lenses have room for internal baffles which help absorb incident light, rather than allowing it to be reflected back on the camera's sensor, which also help reduce the effect, but even *those* can't eliminate it completely.

A lot of people are making similar assertions about these photos, and the assertions should be testable.

They appear to be saying that the purple lens flare on the i5 is a product of a specific and very narrow angle at which the light is hitting the lens. Presumably a slight adjustment of this angle would result in the more pleasing pure white lens flare seen in the i4s shot.

Similarly, the i4s would allegedly show purple flare if the angle was only slightly different (ie the same as the i5).

I would like to see this hypothesis tested. For a start though, are there any good examples available online of pictures taken with the i5 which show significant pure white lens flare of the type seen in the i4s photo? This would at least start to demonstrate that the intense purple colour (which is the real aesthetic problem) will only be seen in certain circumstances and not in all situations where the i5 lens is flaring. If on the other hand all examples of i5 lens flare are purple there would seem to be a difference.
 
It still *is* an issue on digital cameras. The coatings help *reduce* the issue, but they can't eliminate it completely. Larger lenses have room for internal baffles which help absorb incident light, rather than allowing it to be reflected back on the camera's sensor, which also help reduce the effect, but even *those* can't eliminate it completely.


This has nothing to do with it being a digital camera or not. My film cameras do flare also when I point them directly at the sun. People need to get over this "made for digital" business and the old tale that modern lenses need to be better because digital is "better". Most lens designs go back decades and not that much has changed. Yes, coatings are better now. But that has nothing to do with digital or film photography.

On a tiny little lens and tiny little sensor all this doesn't matter much anyway.
 
People are dumber and dumber. Soon they will complain why iPhone doesn't bake a breakfast.
 
"It's not our fault"

Well, it isn't their fault, unless you're hell-bent on blaming Apple for adhering to light particle physics.

If you're trying to take a picture directly into the sun, you're an idiot. Or you're experimenting and just having some fun. Or you're using a real camera and adjusting ISO/shutter speed settings.

My iPhone Camera doesnt operate like a 500$ Digital SLR, it is all Apples Fault!

Lol I know.. and even on a $5,000 camera you still have to adjust settings before you could actually take a picture w/o that kind of flare.

My Canon DSLR has crappy cell phone reception. Canon sucks.

You have that problem too?! Mine's a Nikon... but I'm as pissed as you are.
 
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iPhone 4S lens flare. Much worse.
 
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