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Yeah, and let's not forget "Morongate" -- that time when Apple finally had to admit that a large portion of their user base are a bunch of blithering idiots who'd die of starvation in the middle of Manhattan if Siri was offline. Tim "Snake" Cook slithered his way out of that one by saying that users are like that by design and that Apple couldn't do anything about it, so I'm suing.

Sure and sheepgate, apple buyers who will defend apple always and on everything.

Saying the user is a moron because he puts his finger on a normal spot and shorten out the antenna's when apple has made it very easy to do that is proof of that.
 
Slightly. It wasn't a problem before anyone noticed apparently, 4s took photos for people without issues. These are normal artifacts for cameras of this size. It seems like you are grasping for straws here.

How am I grasping for straws? I didn't make a public statement about the complaints, Apple did. It seems to me the loyalists are the one's with the straw grasping and excuses.
 
Yes. All non-issues. All blown completely out of proportion by media that *loves* to highlight any perceived flaw with Apple and it's products.

Why? Because it generates clicks for their ad revenue.

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Yep. The exact angles/positions involved will differ depending on the details of the lens construction, focus, and aperture settings though. What does it for one camera may or may not do it for another camera. What does it for the second camera may or may not do it for the first.

And I'm sure you'll be just as much of an apologist when it concerns a non Apple product, right? :rolleyes:
 
That lens flare is actually *very well* controlled considering there is no lens hood attached to the iPhone 5. I wish some of my camera lenses performed this well without hoods.
 
I'm sure this has already been said but- looks to me that the lens flare is actually better managed in the iPhone 5 that in the iPhone 4. People complaining about this have apparently never used an iPhone 4s 4 or 3g 3gs --or any camera before... just shade the lens. I wonder if Apple will release a bumper case with a lens hood...
 
That lens flare is actually *very well* controlled considering there is no lens hood attached to the iPhone 5. I wish some of my camera lenses performed this well without hoods.

Are you saying that your camera lenses produced the same weird purple flare? Could you show us some examples?
 
How am I grasping for straws? I didn't make a public statement about the complaints, Apple did. It seems to me the loyalists are the one's with the straw grasping and excuses.

Apple's statement explains the phenomenon and how to avoid it. I don't deny the phenomenon, I'm telling you it's normal. You, are trying to make it into an "issue", that's the grasping for straws. I'm surprised you don't get it. Just look at the comparative images, it's takes some cherry picking to get the right ones apparently but the effect is there in previous iPhone models as well.
 
Soon people will start to complain that their iPhone can't resist a fall from the Empire State Building and that apple should apologize for that.

By the way iPhone and iPad cam can't take picture in pitch black. I ask for total apologies from Steve jobs ghost! Ouija board? Anyone?

:D
 
I'm sure this has already been said but- looks to me that the lens flare is actually better managed in the iPhone 5 that in the iPhone 4. People complaining about this have apparently never used an iPhone 4s 4 or 3g 3gs --or any camera before... just shade the lens. I wonder if Apple will release a bumper case with a lens hood...

People did use older phones and none of them had this extreme issue. Just read PCMag's comparison (it includes iPhone 5 and 4S) which shows that iPhone 5 has it much worse than any other phone.
 
Sad statementon our society

I think its astounding that people are taking bad photos and blaming it on Apple.

Lens flare happens with every camera in the world. It is intrinsic to the physics of glass and light. It is intrinsic to photography.

People getting upset about this--like those idiots complaining about Apple maps-- just show me that people really *are* getting stupider as time goes on.

Yep, does it with my higher end nikon, only the purple friging is less...

Kinda sad that most of the net is filled with people who rip others apart with the slightest thing... Even when it is NOT a flaw or fault.

I am so glad I don't most of you on here, apart from having no lives, you are so damn negative you are draining. If the Mayans are right, maybe u guys can go first.... The world would be better by far.
 
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From my tests I can conclude that my flare has a tiny purple tint but only around the sun. The rest of the flare is fine. I'm guessing I got a good iPhone 5 Black because it has great connectivity, good battery, doesn't scratch easily, and doesn't have the purple flare that is too noticeable. *knocks on wood*
 

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So the me get this straight. The iPhone 5 comes out and the worst two things Anti-Apple people could find wrong with the phone are:

1) The back scratches easily when you scratch it forcefully with a key.

2) You get glare when you point the camera at the sun.

Haters gonna hate... :apple:
 
Look, say what you will, but I never had as strong of a flare effect when I took pictures on my iPhone 4. So yes, the issue exists with all cameras due to the laws of photonics, bla bla... but, the issue is more pronounced on the iPhone 5 than before.

looks worse in the 4S screenshot in the OP.
 
People did use older phones and none of them had this extreme issue. Just read PCMag's comparison (it includes iPhone 5 and 4S) which shows that iPhone 5 has it much worse than any other phone.

No the iphone 4 is much worse in those conditions. Even if the light is "out of frame" it doesn't mean light isn't hitting the lens- bouncing in etc... As a photographer I know this to be a given not a defect. The degree to which the flare is visible depends on the optics and the angles. The best thing I've found to do is to use your free hand and shade the lens while keeping your hand out of frame (not always an easy task with small cameras -- or you can just plan to crop the blurry edge of your hand out later). The important thing is that you'll see the flare disappear and the IQ will be worth your effort.
 
So the me get this straight. The iPhone 5 comes out and the worst two things Anti-Apple people could find wrong with the phone are:

1) The back scratches easily when you scratch it forcefully with a key.

2) You get glare when you point the camera at the sun.

Haters gonna hate... :apple:

Incredible how people can just ignore reality, yes all the people reporting scratches/scuffs out of the box or after a couple of days only got those because they used their keys on their iphone .

ANd no the issue isnt clare, but pictures turning purple when there is a light source even outside of the picture.
 
Yes. I've read your other posts. You're trying to show ath the purple flair thing, which can (and does, in the right circumstances) occur in any camera with any lens (to greater or lesser extent based on the lens in question) does not. And you're trying to do so by using photos which aren't framed the same way.

In other words, you're trying to prove false something that is true, and you're doing so by selectively picking pictures to prove your point.

What I'm trying to say is that I have never seen this extensive purple flare in any camera or phone I've used or in any picture I've shot. I tried to show pictures shot at the sun or with the sun at the edge. All of my lenses is prone to flare in certain situations as but I've never seen that kind of purple flare.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm just lucky.
 
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I've nothing to add. Just wanted to get in on a 440+ thread about nothing really important which somehow makes its way to the front page. (again) :D
 
So, I take a picture with, say, Samsung Galaxy SIII and it looks like this:

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Then I take the same picture with iPhone 5 and see this:

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What should I do? I say: "all camera lenses have flare issues" and "Apple haters gona hate". Does this accurately summarize the mental state of some folks who argue that this is a non-issue here?
 
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the purple is showing by taking a pic of my friends baldness too lol
 
So, I take a picture with, say, Samsung Galaxy SIII and it looks like this:

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Then I take the same picture with iPhone 5 and see this:

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What should I do? I say: "all camera lenses have flare issues" and "Apple haters gona hate". Does this accurately summarize the mental state of some folks who argue that this is a non-issue here?

Every company on earth dreams of having customers like Apple does. They make excuses for everything Apple does and keep coming back for more.
 
What should I do? I say: "all camera lenses have flare issues" and "Apple haters gona hate". Does this accurately summarize the mental state of some folks who argue that this is a non-issue here?

Do you make money off using the camera on your phone? If yes, then you have every right to complain.

If not then all you are doing is blowing smoke, you can't seriously expect cameras on phones to be without their flaws. Even the notoriously highest rated camera phone, the Nokia 808 Pureview, has it's flaws (in addition to running a bad OS). You choose which phone to buy, if it's a big deal to you then buy one that makes you happy, but complaining about on it the internet is not going to get you anywhere, especially when the company that makes it is clearly not going to do anything different.
 
Ummm.....I don't even read this site anymore cause to many trolls. I found better alternatives :) However I found this post, and it was funny.

No PHOTOGRAPHERS HERE....YEA I Thought SO :D

If you can't do color correction and use photoshop, should you use a camera on any phone....well I think NOT!

Second, if your using iPhoto or Windows Picture Viewer....return the phone

Thirdly, if you don't know what a pixel, dot pitch, aperture, white balance, etc ....return the phone

Fourth, if you knew one and three, you wouldn't be having this discussion....well thanks for my two minutes of laughing at s.f.a.'s on here
 
So, I take a picture with, say, Samsung Galaxy SIII and it looks like this:

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Then I take the same picture with iPhone 5 and see this:

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What should I do? I say: "all camera lenses have flare issues" and "Apple haters gona hate". Does this accurately summarize the mental state of some folks who argue that this is a non-issue here?
I'm pretty sure it took a lot of work to find a situation that messes the picture up like that.
In other words: I couldn't reproduce this. Not at all. The only thing I see is a purple circle on one side of the screen. To get rid of it I tilt the camera half a degree towards/away from the light and it's gone. It's not really a problem.
 
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