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It is not only the bitrate, but the video format also. So what format is your high bit rate video file?
hi sorry I didn’t gave you a complete answer yesterday
I came very tired from work
also there is some things that I can’t mention or talk about because of the web site rules
that’s why I said depending on the source because I didn’t want to go too much into details

For me personally I prefer 4K MP4 with H2.65
but some people have problem playing H265 and the best they can do is H264
So the codec is also important

Anyway here is a screenshoot of the bitrate settings that I talked about
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Did you use MOST Macs to do it? They didn’t provide a helpful comment, but I’m not sure they are wrong. What is the functional processing time cut off for editing 4K? Should it process in real time, 1:2 or 2:1 time? As much as I love my MacBook, I’m not convinced I could edit a few hours of 4K footage on my 2018 MacBook Pro without pulling my hair out.
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It’s based on many factors, but here is a good breakdown of the constraints between 1080 to 5K.

What is "functional processing time" when editing?
 
What is "functional processing time" when editing?
The time it takes the computer to process a change relative to the amount of time it would take to watch the footage that was altered. If you make a change that effects 60 seconds of footage, what is an acceptable amount of time that you can't use the computer because it is processing your change. Is 3 seconds of down time acceptable? How about two minutes?
 
Unless you’re doing super-critical editing, the Dell P2415Q 24” 4K UHD for approx $350 is all you need and is still an amazing value. I use mine with my 2017 MBA. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/search?N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search&Ntt=Dell P2415Q 24" Ultra HD 4K Monitor

I highly agree with this! I have a pair of these on my Mac Pro tower and they're my favorite!

with today's offering of 4k ips 27 inch for 400-500 bucks, like my dell p2715q, it's a real hard pill to swallow to even consider apple lg's 5k price tag,

Do any of these Dells support video over Thunderbolt? Or is an adapter required to use them with e.g. a 2016-2018 MBP?
 
Not if you prefer a larger size and high ppi.

If OS X would support it, I would buy Dell’s UltraSharp 32” 8K monitor. I currently use a 32” 4K LG monitor at the native resolution. I sit pretty close to it and I would like crisper text.
 
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Your juvenile snark aside, no. I'll break it down to help you understand.

At one time Apple was in the laser printer business, selling a line of printers at premium prices at a time when there was no/little competition. When laser printers became a commodity item due to HP and other manufacturers entering the market and making a quality product, Apple pulled out of the printer business, not interested in competing with low-cost commodity devices - something Apple has never done. Relating that to Apple pulling out of the display market is called an analogy.

Again, you are making a straw-man argument of things I never said and then attacking that while completely ignoring what I did say.

My post you replied to was
"Remember when Apple used to sell high quality displays and high quality computers to drive them?"
here's nothing at all there about laser printers.

As far as displays. During the heyday of Apple's Cinema display line there were plenty of commodity PC monitors at 20% of Apple's price. But Apple monitors were far superior. They were targeted at people doing graphic and video work, they had superior gamut, color fidelity, and richness. They used IPS panels when the whole market was using a very poor version of TN, the viewing angle on those TN panels was so poor, even looking straight on, the edges looked all washed out and the colors were inconstant across the screen as the angle to your eye changed. For people used to commodity monitors at the time, the Apple displays looked magnificent in the store and nobody questioned the 5x markup being worth it. Today cheap monitors are a lot better than they were a decade ago, but there's still a market for high end monitors. Apple just doesn't want to compete in the high end computer hardware business.

As far as computers. That's even easier. Until 2011-2012, Mac hardware was, performance-wise, on par with the best PC hardware at about a 30% apple markup, which was well worth it for the sleek well-designed computer. I looked hard at windows laptops around the time I bought my 2011 MBP. And for the same price I paid for the macs, it was hard to find a PC to match its power. And then the mac had a better keyboard, case build, and display. It was a no-brainer to buy the mac. At the time I remember a PC Mag article saying the best windows laptop on the market was a macbook running windows, even with price factored in. IIRC, the Sandy Bridge CPU in my macbook wasn't even available to PC vendors yet at the time I bought the macbook. Apple had an exclusive window with Intel.

Today the latest Apple laptops just don't compare well to windows. You have the gimped keyboards, poor performance, non-removable storage (which makes data recovery impossible if anything else goes wrong with the logic board), emoji bars, etc, all in a computer that is nearly double what it cost in 2012 for a comparably specced machine. My 2011 MBP is by far the best computer I ever owned. My 2017 is well in the running for the worst. And the only Mac (out of about a dozen) I ever had buyers remorse over. It is also absolutely my last mac unless Apple does a hard 180 (which I'm not holding my breath for), which I find pretty disappointing.

So, please continue to pretend your nonsense about laser printers is not building a straw-man because you've got no legitimate response to any of this. Laser printers....wow.
 
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Again, you are making a straw-man argument of things I never said and then attacking that while completely ignoring what I did say.

My post you replied to was

here's nothing at all there about laser printers.

As far as displays. During the heyday of Apple's Cinema display line there were plenty of commodity PC monitors at 20% of Apple's price. But Apple monitors were far superior. They were targeted at people doing graphic and video work, they had superior gamut, color fidelity, and richness. They used IPS panels when the whole market was using a very poor version of TN, the viewing angle on those TN panels was so poor, even looking straight on, the edges looked all washed out and the colors were inconstant across the screen as the angle to your eye changed. For people used to commodity monitors at the time, the Apple displays looked magnificent in the store and nobody questioned the 5x markup being worth it. Today cheap monitors are a lot better than they were a decade ago, but there's still a market for high end monitors. Apple just doesn't want to compete in the high end computer hardware business.

As far as computers. That's even easier. Until 2011-2012, Mac hardware was, performance-wise, on par with the best PC hardware at about a 30% apple markup, which was well worth it for the sleek well-designed computer. I looked hard at windows laptops around the time I bought my 2011 MBP. And for the same price I paid for the macs, it was hard to find a PC to match its power. And then the mac had a better keyboard, case build, and display. It was a no-brainer to buy the mac. At the time I remember a PC Mag article saying the best windows laptop on the market was a macbook running windows, even with price factored in. IIRC, the Sandy Bridge CPU in my macbook wasn't even available to PC vendors yet at the time I bought the macbook. Apple had an exclusive window with Intel.

Today the latest Apple laptops just don't compare well to windows. You have the gimped keyboards, poor performance, non-removable storage (which makes data recovery impossible if anything else goes wrong with the logic board), emoji bars, etc, all in a computer that is nearly double what it cost in 2012 for a comparably specced machine. My 2011 MBP is by far the best computer I ever owned. My 2017 is well in the running for the worst. And the only Mac (out of about a dozen) I ever had buyers remorse over. It is also absolutely my last mac unless Apple does a hard 180 (which I'm not holding my breath for), which I find pretty disappointing.

So, please continue to pretend your nonsense about laser printers is not building a straw-man because you've got no legitimate response to any of this. Laser printers....wow.
Don’t forget the thin chassis doesn’t allow the 8th gen cpu not boosting properly
 
If OS X would support it, I would buy Dell’s UltraSharp 32” 8K monitor. I currently use a 32” 4K LG monitor at the native resolution. I sit pretty close to it and I would like crisper text.

Is that a macOS limitation or a hardware limitation on current macs?
 
I'm looking forward to the release of Apple's new monitor ... and I know it's gonna burn a hole in my pocket.
It would replace my existing Dell 34" screen. The only thing that motivates me to upgrade is the ability to charge the laptop directly from the monitor with a single cable.

And if Apple happens to release a set of ergonomic mouse/keyboard, I would be more than glad to buy. Right now I'm using the Logitech set but it's got a few incompatibilities that annoy me.

btw... from 2016 to now is not several years, but only couple. Several means 5-7.
 
Is that a macOS limitation or a hardware limitation on current macs?
I think both might be a limitation. I haven’t seen anyone saying that they’ve gotten the 8K monitor working with any hardware or OS X version. Clearly it’s working with Windows 10.
 
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It would be great if they did a matte screen on the new Apple monitors, but given their track record, you know they'll be glossy.

I wonder if we'll see monitors with an included eGPU?
 
I wonder if they figured out the burn-in/ghosting issues. I was at the Apple Store a few days ago and saw one of the 5K displays connected to the Mac Pro, and it had severe burn-in. Not only could you see the windows/dock/menu bar if you open something else, but you can also clearly see the desktop. It's like someone took a screenshot and permanently overlayed it over the display at 50% opacity. I wonder what causes this kind of phenomenon.
I have the burn-in or ghosting on my late 2014 retina iMac. Noticed it about 2 months ago. The ghosting seems to be from the Airbnb web site. My wife told me that the iMac stopped turning off its screen, and it took me a few days to get around to figuring out what happened and fix it. About a month later I noticed ghosting.

Apple has a knowledge base article describing how to fix the ghosting in retina screens, and it claims that the ghosting is not burn-in and is not permanent. However, after a
Month of running screensavers (that’s how the article suggests that ghosting can be fixed), the ghosting is still there, and not only from Airbnb but also from the macOS dock. The ghosting is seen only when you drag a window with the certain color of background. It’s not seen with the Apple wallpaper unless I drag Safari with a certain color background over it. Then, I can see opaque Airbnb page under the current Safari page even though there is no Airbnb page open.

I loved the iMac’s screen until the ghosting showed up. It’s very disappointing to look at the screen now. The gall that Apple has claiming this is not a permanent burn-in is infuriating bullcrap. There are hundreds of reports about this issue with retina iMacs of different generations on the web.
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I think Tim probably saw it and realized the price was awfully low…

“Pull it!”
“We gotta get that replaced with something more expensive”
I’m sure that’s exactly what happened.
 
It will still be 2 kidneys, but you'll get change: one leg and an arm.
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I've never even played 4k video, but I still use a high-res monitor (although not quite 4k). Everything looks better in high-res: websites, text, images. I don't think I could ever go back to 1080p or ever 1440p displays

I'm a video editor so I was referring to video. I could care less about websites, etc. My 1080p monitors work just fine.
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One look at his avatar and it all makes sense!

you are using a framing effect. I could care less about 6k monitors unless its related to video.
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So the 4K video editing that I shot with my Nikon Z6 and edited earlier today on my 27in iMac was a figment on my imagination then?
It wasn't so...?

Did you miss the part where I said "Most?"
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It would be great if they did a matte screen on the new Apple monitors, but given their track record, you know they'll be glossy.

I wonder if we'll see monitors with an included eGPU?

I have the lg 27uk650, it looks a bit flat with no glossy coating. I prefer glossy over matte and I don't get why the trend is a flat looking matte all of a sudden.

My home tv is still plasma because it still looks 10 times better than all of the latest lame technology.

Make screens great again, go glossy.
 
Am I correct in thinking this was the only/last display Apple sold that supports current MacBook, which lacks a TB3 port?
 
updated iMacs are coming Fall the earliest. They've just been updated so it will be a while.
I would love Fall but I think it may not materialize as they might be really waiting for the ARM chips. Who knows but new iMacs will either be fall or sometime next year :)
True but they've surprised us before. They launched the iPad 3 with retina and A5X in March 2012 then relaunched it with a Lightning connector and A6X in October of that same year. They ran the iPad Pro 9.7 inch for just one cycle before updating it to 10.5 inches.
My post was more complaining than anything though haha. I sold Apple products through a channel partner previously and that iMac update in 2012 came right at Christmas and we took a huge hit by not having any on hand for months. Lately it feels as if they've realized that though and will hold off launch until they have a quantity on hand to support demand.
 
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Most Apple computers don't even have the processing power or ram to even edit 4k video so I don't even know why they are pushing 4k monitors.

A lot of people edit with proxies which are not 4K anyway.
If you edit on a single display setup you don't edit fullscreen anyway... so most of what you said has little value.

FWIW I edited 4K footage on my Mac Mini on UHD630.

Back on topic:
Too bad, i have one and i really really like it, there's really absolutely no alternative to it.
 
32-inch monitors are too big. You have to sit further away from them.
No. You don't. DPI sets the distance at which you should sit. Otherwise people with, say, 2 or 3 24" displays would also have to sit 3 feet away. You have to move your eyes and head to see the corners... sure... but it all is about screen real estate. Nothing else.
 
It would be great if they did a matte screen on the new Apple monitors, but given their track record, you know they'll be glossy.

I wonder if we'll see monitors with an included eGPU?

I hope so. I don’t want to have to buy an iMac in order to use the best screen available with my (future) MacBook Pro.
 
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