Apple Pulls 4K LG UltraFine Displays From Online Apple Store in U.S.

[ThisBougieLife]

Sorry to hear this. I like the 21.5 inch size; I don't want a bigger monitor. I hope LG updates this monitor with 3.1 USB. 2.0 USB is a bit lame for a USB C port.

I can't see how they aren't also going to offer a smaller monitor. Do they really expect people to buy the 6K monitor for the Mac Mini and hope to drive it with integrated graphics? Are they just never going to have their own house monitor for the Mac Mini? It just seems ridiculous to me.

 

[hans1972]

Tim is an iPad man [...]

Same as Steve Jobs who talked about post-PC and how it would make a lot of people uncomfortable.

 

[gldoorii]

Several years ago...wtf?

 

[lederermc]

Apple should be selling monitors that, from the users point of view, look like the iMac screen so that iMac users can have a good looking dual monitor configuration AND the Bezel for the iMac should be much smaller.

 

[truthertech]

truthertech said: ↑
Then why have they sold more Macs under Tim then ever before. How come in the past year Apple has come out with new MacBook Pros, iMac Pro, iMacs, Mini?

The butterfly keyboard humiliation is all on Tim’s watch. Why is it a lot of people refuse to touch these pieces of junk? The iMac of today is nothing more than a 2012 speed bump. They redesign cars more often. Tim is responsible for the 2014 Mini debacle and it took 4 (FOUR) years for the next Mini to come out. Let’s not even talk about the phantom Mac Pros.

Tim is an iPad man but wouldn’t know how to design a computer if it was put down in front of him.

OK, you are at least conceding that Tim doesn't hate the Mac and the Mac's have all had great success under his watch. That's good. As an owner of a MBP, I can tell you these are beautiful machines, and based on the tremendous success in the marketplace, many millions of people agree. That doesn't mean the butterfly keyboard hasn't been a problem for a small percentage of people. Hopefully, an upcoming redesign will eliminate anyone from having the problem.

I also just got a new Mini, another beautiful machine. Can't wait until the new Mac Monitors come out this year. Will be an awesome combination. Yes, the outward design of the iMac hasn't been updated in a while, but the innards since 2012 have gone through major changes and updates. Indeed, the latest updates are so much more than the spec bump you call it, that the new iMac is potentially going to obsolete the iMac Pro. It will be good to get the T2 and hopefully FaceID, etc., integrated, but the current gorgeous screen and processing power, design, etc., is so top notch that Apple owns the all in one market.

Finally, your animus towards TC appears to be based on a misunderstanding of how Apple and other major tech companies work. TC doesn't design anything. No CEO does. There are engineering and design teams that work on developing products that can be manufactured at a massive scale in millions of units. Designing updates to these machines takes a long lead time for many reasons, not the least of which is because Apple is dependent on suppliers, like Intel, having worked out their own supply lines to produce many millions of units.

 

[- rob -]

I can't see how they aren't also going to offer a smaller monitor. Do they really expect people to buy the 6K monitor for the Mac Mini and hope to drive it with integrated graphics? Are they just never going to have their own house monitor for the Mac Mini? It just seems ridiculous to me.

I think it will require the Blackmagic egpu even for newer machines.

 

[mavericks7913]

Make a professional monitor! Dont put glossy surface!

 

[raybo]

The Dells are nice screens..

I just wish they would up their game with industrial design and maybe make their branding a little less prominent.

I’m probably alone on this but the Dell brand is just one that doesn’t do much for me in 2019. The idea of staring at their logo all the time just sort of turns me off for some reason.

Mind you this opinion goes all the way back to the late 90s

The Dell's classic non-reflective black bezel is a useful design, virtually disappearing when viewing the screen. Dell monitors are popular in the business world because they just work. Dell stands are probably the best of any monitor, solid and super-easily adjustable in all planes. The stand's design is much more practical than on iMacs and legacy Apple Monitors, where you can't adjust the height. I don't understand what "the Dell brand is just one that doesn't do much for me" even means...

 

[Edsel]

At what point does the human eye no longer notice the difference between 4k, 5k, 6k... etc?

 

[mudflap]

Most Apple computers don't even have the processing power or ram to even edit 4k video so I don't even know why they are pushing 4k monitors.

More screen real estate = more data on screen, more palettes and windows. Especially for folks like myself that just don't like using two monitors.

Which Macs can't edit 4k video? And the ones that can't, can use proxy.

 

[tallscot]

Most Apple computers don't even have the processing power or ram to even edit 4k video so I don't even know why they are pushing 4k monitors.

I edit 5K native RED .r3d films on a 6-year old Mac Pro without transcoding or using proxy.

The critical hardware for fat video formats like RED or Arri or Blackmagic's ProRes is the hard drive. My 6-year old Lacie Thunderbolt 2 RAID reads 980MBps. The RED Weapon 8K camera records .r3d files at 259 MBps at a 5:1 compression (the lowest compression for that format).

So my system will handle the latest RED 8K cameras just fine.

Thunderbolt 3 RAID drives from Lacie are reading 2,600 MBps.

You don't really MUST have a 4K or 5K monitor to edit, of course. It depends on what you are doing. If you are using DaVinci Resolve to color grade short/feature films, than you will want a monitor that can handle the native resolution you are editing that can be color calibrated for accuracy. I think they run a professional studio monitor off of HDMI for that to get it to look like it would watching it on iTunes on a TV. I don't know, I'm not a professional color grader.

In regards to these monitors for everyone else, just think if the iPad before and after a Retina display. The text is much sharper on a 4K monitor and Apple's OS X does a great job scaling the UI so it's not tiny.
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Apple has removed the 4K LG UltraFine Displays from its online Apple Store in the United States, continuing a trend of pulling the display from its online stores around the world. Before disappearing from the store, the display had been listed as "Sold Out" for quite some time.

It's not clear why Apple has stopped selling the 4K LG UltraFine Display, but it is several years old at this point, having first debuted in 2016.

The 4K and 5K UltraFine Displays were designed by LG in partnership with Apple and were created to be used with the 2016 13 and 15-inch MacBook Pro models, which supported Thunderbolt 3 for the first time.

The 21.5-inch 4K LG UltraFine Display offered a resolution of 4096 x 2304 with support for P3 wide color gamut and 60W of power delivery for charging a MacBook. It was selling from Apple for $700 before being pulled from the online store.

LG recently debuted a new 4K UltraFine Display, but this new model, priced at $1300, was not designed in partnership with Apple and it doesn't seem like Apple is planning to replace the existing model with this one in its retail stores.

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Apple is still selling the LG UltraFine 5K Display for $1300, and Best Buy is continuing to offer the original UltraFine 4K Display from 2016 for its original $700 price, suggesting it has not been discontinued by LG.

Apple is working on an Apple-branded display that will be sold alongside the high-end high-throughput modular Mac Pro that's in the works, but with a rumored 6K resolution and a 31.6-inch screen size, it's sounding like it's going to be ultra high end (and expensive) and not a replacement for traditional 4K and 5K displays.

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I'm looking for a 4K monitor that has HDMI input and is HDR to run a Playstation 4 Pro off of, and a Mac. Doesn't require 144hz because it's not a PC gaming monitor. Right now I have one of the first 4K monitors from Dell and it works great, however it's not HDR.

I want up/down adjustment and tactile buttons on the monitor, none of that "invisible buttons" crap where you fumble with your fingers trying to get it to work.

Funny how 4K HDR TVs at 65" are cheaper than a 4K computer monitor.

 

[iReality85]

LG’s monitors from 2016 and prior were so junky looking. I remember checking out the 4K UltraFine on display at the Apple Store; the screen housing rattled quite a bit and all the plastic made it look really cheap.

At least LG has upped its quality since then. Their 2018 and current monitors are quite nice now and more aesthetically appealing.

 

[citysnaps]

Oh wow...a straw-man argument. That gets an E for effort.

Your juvenile snark aside, no. I'll break it down to help you understand.

At one time Apple was in the laser printer business, selling a line of printers at premium prices at a time when there was no/little competition. When laser printers became a commodity item due to HP and other manufacturers entering the market and making a quality product, Apple pulled out of the printer business, not interested in competing with low-cost commodity devices - something Apple has never done. Relating that to Apple pulling out of the display market is called an analogy.

 

[iop]

Hope this means the 6k will be accompanied by a smaller 4K miniLED option that can be bought for one kidney, as opposed to two.

It will still be 2 kidneys, but you'll get change: one leg and an arm.
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Most Apple computers don't even have the processing power or ram to even edit 4k video so I don't even know why they are pushing 4k monitors.

I've never even played 4k video, but I still use a high-res monitor (although not quite 4k). Everything looks better in high-res: websites, text, images. I don't think I could ever go back to 1080p or ever 1440p displays

 

[oldwatery]

Sorry but this is the dumbest comment ever!

One look at his avatar and it all makes sense!

 

[smirking]

Even more shocking, the people who liked this comment.

They'll like anything thats negative.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Hope this means the 6k will be accompanied by a smaller 4K miniLED option that can be bought for one kidney, as opposed to two.

I think this is probably right. Even the kidney part.
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Yup. Much more excited by the HDR possibilities than the extra pixels. If it has ProMotion/120hz as well, I’ll be ecstatic.

Does anyone know the amount of nits needed for HDR?

I remember then the 8 Plus and 2017 10.5 iPad Pro were released, Apple marketed them with “HDR.” I was skeptical and still am.

Not a peep from Apple about HDR since, unless the devices were OLED.

I’d love for a new iMac and display to have HDR capabilities, but without iTunes 4K and HDR support and no Netflix HDR, I’m not sure what’s left, except for perhaps YouTube videos.

 

[4jasontv]

So the 4K video editing that I shot with my Nikon Z6 and edited earlier today on my 27in iMac was a figment on my imagination then?
It wasn't so...?

Did you use MOST Macs to do it? They didn’t provide a helpful comment, but I’m not sure they are wrong. What is the functional processing time cut off for editing 4K? Should it process in real time, 1:2 or 2:1 time? As much as I love my MacBook, I’m not convinced I could edit a few hours of 4K footage on my 2018 MacBook Pro without pulling my hair out.
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At what point does the human eye no longer notice the difference between 4k, 5k, 6k... etc?

It’s based on many factors, but here is a good breakdown of the constraints between 1080 to 5K.

 

[turbineseaplane]

The Dell's classic non-reflective black bezel is a useful design, virtually disappearing when viewing the screen. Dell monitors are popular in the business world because they just work. Dell stands are probably the best of any monitor, solid and super-easily adjustable in all planes. The stand's design is much more practical than on iMacs and legacy Apple Monitors, where you can't adjust the height. I don't understand what "the Dell brand is just one that doesn't do much for me" even means...

I don't love the industrial design (i.e. - how they look).

Functionally, they're fine - I just find them very uninspiring, bland, plasticky and sort of cheap feeling, etc - To me this matters since I stare at the monitor all day and from various angles and see it from many sides in my usages setup, etc.

Glad you enjoy them.

To me they look like blasé generic "office equipment".
Just doesn't get me excited about buying them.

Looks aren't everything, but they do matter for some people and some types of technology components.

Luckily we can each have different opinions and that's just fine.
Cheers

 

[DevNull0]

Apple is not a technology company.

I believe Timmy agrees with you. But then someone needs to update their company profile on the NASDAQ which describes them as a technology company before they get sued for securities fraud.

Also, their wikipedia page is woefully out of date given that it very explicitly and repeatedly makes Apple out to be a technology company starting from the very first line.

 

[iRun26.2]

One look at his avatar and it all makes sense!

I couldn’t agree more. That’s all the explanation I need.

 

[ajfahey]

At what point does the human eye no longer notice the difference between 4k, 5k, 6k... etc?

Depends on the diagonal size of the monitor coupled with sitting distance from the screen. It's about dots per inch and distance, not total dots.

 

[scaramoosh]

Yeh cause they didn't sell due to Apple restrictions.

 

[Gogeta-Blue]

It is not only the bitrate, but the video format also. So what format is your high bit rate video file?

hi, yes, you are correct most of the time I use mp4, if I'm going to share a video file with a pc user and mov if I'm going to work on Mac OS
but I do a few different things, depending on the source,
for example if I use my phantom 4 pro drone.
for that I use FCP with HQ PRO RES CODEC

 

[Piggie]

I wonder if at some point in the future the answer for hi-res displays for apps and games, to allow maximum speed with needing the minimum power.
Use Eye tracking built into the screen so it only needs to resolve the full detail for the area of the sceen you are directly looking at.
You can only see full detail in a tiny circle in the centre of your vision, the rest of the screen does not need to be so sharp.