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Yeah, if they already have the code and graphics created, I'm not sure why they need to raise another $50,000 to build a web app.

That’s not how code works. They can’t just paste the code into a web app environment and expect it to work. It will need to be rewritten for web technologies.
 
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Really really surprised this made it through review

App review isn't consistent, I only seldom get rejected but sometimes it happens after an app has been on the store for years with multiple revisions. He was lucky to get his app approved the first time, sometimes it happens
 
$50k to recreate that on the web? Haha yeah right. What a cash grab.

It's whole USP is looking like an iPod, that is Apple's intellectual property.
 
nah, prefer the real deal; have an orig color 60g iPod but had a local 3rd party shop install a 120G SD along with its card. Wow is this light in the hand! Found its mated base - coloring cube for my home office; nice. Coupled with my in auto, Nano - audiobooks - play nicely on my '18 Crosstrek it's the way to go for me.

My phone, lives in my pocket.
 
$50k to recreate that on the web? Haha yeah right. What a cash grab.

It's whole USP is looking like an iPod, that is Apple's intellectual property.
Except that the iPod design has long been acknowledged by Jonathan Ive to be inspired by the 1950s Braun T3 portable radio, so not really Apple's intellectual property at all.
 
Except that the iPod design has long been acknowledged by Jonathan Ive to be inspired by the 1950s Braun T3 portable radio, so not really Apple's intellectual property at all.

That's the key word here; inspired.

Just because they were inspired by that design doesn't mean the iPod is fair game and anyone can go and make a knockoff of it.

I'm fairly certain if you tried you'd get a call from Apple's legal team pretty quickly.
 
Except that the iPod design has long been acknowledged by Jonathan Ive to be inspired by the 1950s Braun T3 portable radio, so not really Apple's intellectual property at all.
This app looks a lot more like an iPod than the iPod looked like a Braun product.

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But in relation to that member that I quoted, can IBM and Apple really be compared? 40 years ago is ancient, look how much these companies have changed, Apple isn’t even the same company they were 10 years ago or even 20 years ago for that matter. And I don’t think they should be expected to be. Apples success is based on the quality of the product and separating themselves from the other competitors.

Anyways, Apple is _not_ mutually exclusive to IBM in any form or fashion.

The OP stated that IBM never was at the "success level" of Apple. I beg to differ. 40 years ago a computer was more or less synonymous with IBM. Heck, they invented the "PC business" as all PCs were IBM (until Compaq managed to reverse-engineer the BIOS), and they were almost the only ones making mainframes that businesses used. They WERE the computer business.
 
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The OP stated that IBM never was at the "success level" of Apple. I beg to differ. 40 years ago a computer was more or less synonymous with IBM. Heck, they invented the "PC business" as all PCs were IBM (until Compaq managed to reverse-engineer the BIOS), and they were almost the only ones making mainframes that businesses used. They WERE the computer business.
They were powerful enough in the early 70s to develop their own encryption algorithm when the NSA used everything in their power to be the only encryption developer in the US. IBM’s Lucifer encryption algorithm became the basis for DES. It was reviewed and “strengthened” by the NSA, which, due to mistrust of the NSA, was replaced with AES; an algorithm developed by two Belgian researchers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_(cipher)

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Data-Encryption-Standard

https://www.britannica.com/topic/AES
 
Im very confused here by the community siding with Apple.
I downloaded and bought the app. You have to make add the skin from a 3rd party place. It's not included in the app. this is no different than ANY other application out there with a basic level of functionality.

What makes you think it was a "3rd party place"? Clearly they delivered one app to Apple for review, and what people are actually using is something different, and that in itself is a reason for Apple to pull any app.
 
That's the key word here; inspired.

Just because they were inspired by that design doesn't mean the iPod is fair game and anyone can go and make a knockoff of it.

I'm fairly certain if you tried you'd get a call from Apple's legal team pretty quickly.
Not quite sure what you're arguing here, other than it's OK for Apple to copy other people but not for other people to copy Apple.

Don't forget one of Steve Job's most famous quotes: "Picasso had a saying. He said: "Good artists copy great artists steal.". We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas"
 
The copied UI is user generated content. Every application on earth with user generated content will include content that violates someone's copyright, including Apple's own applications.

Apple can remove this from the store that they control. Removing an application from someone else's store, just because user generated content can be used as a skin, would be a pretty big shake up for how things work.

The app was developed from the ground up to support this skin specifically, it just didn't ship with it built-in to skirt around the AppStore guidelines. The "skin" downloaded is simply a static image off Twitter - the app is coded to know exactly where the touch wheel would appear in this image and recognise circular gestures on it.

As said by many others here, the people who only heard about this now really didn't miss out. It's full of bugs and doesn't feel anywhere near as smooth as the real iPods did - at best it's an entertaining gimmick.

The fact he's now asking for $50k to develop a web version is the biggest joke here.
 
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The OP stated that IBM never was at the "success level" of Apple. I beg to differ

Then I’d suggest you go back and actually read the prior post, because you’re incorrect and apparently confused, _I_ said that “IMB would was/would never be on the success level Apple is”, not the OP (Which is Macrumors member Naaaaak). Reference the post below.

Hence:

Apple has become the IBM they once mocked.

Except....IBM was never and would never be on the success level that Apple is. Not really sure your comparison is appropriate.
 
Not quite sure what you're arguing here, other than it's OK for Apple to copy other people but not for other people to copy Apple.

Don't forget one of Steve Job's most famous quotes: "Picasso had a saying. He said: "Good artists copy great artists steal.". We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas"

I'm not saying that at all. Re-read my post.

From your original post I quoted:

Except that the iPod design has long been acknowledged by Jonathan Ive to be inspired by the 1950s Braun T3 portable radio, so not really Apple's intellectual property at all.

Emphasis mine.

The design of the iPod was inspired. If you search for '1950s Braun T3 portable radio' on your favourite search engine, you should get images of a device that has a circular wheel component that isn't touch/motion based like on an iPod. The circular component is simply rotated instead.

The iPod looks similar, but does not work in the same way at all. Apple's innovation with the iPod click wheel falls under intellectual property for two reasons.

  1. They [Apple] designed and made it for the iPod.
  2. No one else seems to have copied such a thing, which causes me to assume that it's patented (or was) and no one has been allowed to replicate it's functionality within competing products.
I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if I am. But I've said one thing and it's being twisted to mean something completely different here.
 
Original design, by Dieter Rams.
Good artists copy, great artists steal. -Jobs
Thanks for posting a photo that shows Dieter Rams' alarm clock radio, which looks nothing like an iPod with click wheel.

Normally a slightly different photo is used, where the alarm clock is stood up on its side and photographed exactly from the front. Which means you cannot see that its shape is completely different from the iPod. Which makes the wheel (which lets you pick radio channels) look much more like the iPod's click wheel. And which makes the speaker grill look like the iPod's screen when it is turned off.

By the way, the quote is not from Steve Jobs, it is from Pablo Picasso. And yes, he meant it. Great artists take inspiration from others and make it their own. Think about it for a while, and you may understand it.
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This app looks a lot more like an iPod than the iPod looked like a Braun product.

The Braun radio clock wouldn't be stood on its side. And if you don't take the photo exactly from the front you notice that it is a few centimetres thick. You would be able to see it from its shadow, but the shadows are clearly photoshopped.
 
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“Apple is ‘salty’” ... “Redevloping is ‘barely worth the time and effort because Apple will just ban it again’”, so “give us money so we can try to troll/piss off Apple by making a web-based app’”

Sounds like this developer needs to learn to adult better, IMO.
 
This is only one of the many MANY reasons my next phone will NOT be an iPhone.

I am really over the bad UI of iOS and Apple's overwhelming desire to become the M$ of old - 'we own all your info and we will only let you have it (rent it back) when you pay and keep paying us' - oh and ONLY "we" get to decide how you can interact with your info too!

db - used to bleed in 6 colors - and I actually knew "Claris the dogcow" (look it up)
 
I wonder if this kind of censorship is processed by real lawyers or just normal employees who just want to show they're doing their job.
 
Great idea that can only help the ecosystem but it's the monetization appeal that prompted Apple to steal it. Not the first time Apple stole ideas from developers and won't be the last. Remember f.lux for Night Shade, Camera+ for VolumeSnap, Finder for iPods, Cool Pixel for Screen Recording, etc.?
 
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