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Apple Pulls Some Disney and Pixar Titles From iTunes Store and iTunes in the Cloud [Updated]

As ****** as this sounds, I'm sure they have the legal rights to do this, and I'm sure we all agreed to these terms when we clicked the agree button.

All software is licensed, and the cloud pretty much allows the corporations to control our media, more so than ever before. I hope this isn't a normal occurrence, cause it's starting to sound like a dystopian sci-fi movie plot.
 
SamIchi said:
As ****** as this sounds, I'm sure they have the legal rights to do this, and I'm sure we all agreed to these terms when we clicked the agree button.

All software is licensed, and the cloud pretty much allows the corporations to control our media, more so than ever before. I hope this isn't a normal occurrence, cause it's starting to sound like a dystopian sci-fi movie plot.
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That is the plan.
 
So here are VUDU terms of service:

"If you purchase Content, you may view it for as long as you (i) are capable of accessing the VUDU Service, and (ii) maintain an active VUDU Account."

I had previously been going through terms of service for iTunes, VUDU, XBOX, Sony and Amazon to better understand what I'm buying. Everyone else is selling you a license with an expiration date. I'm just not 100% sure I trust VUDU will be around in 10 years. Maybe?
 
I had seen iTunes in the Cloud as a really valuable step forward and a massive reason to buy on iTunes rather than importing the blu-ray.

I had selected several HD movies to be excluded from my backups, and there were some that I immediately streamed on the Apple TV and never actually downloaded.

Now that has all changed, for the worst.
 
aced411 said:
So here are VUDU terms of service:

"If you purchase Content, you may view it for as long as you (i) are capable of accessing the VUDU Service, and (ii) maintain an active VUDU Account."

I had previously been going through terms of service for iTunes, VUDU, XBOX, Sony and Amazon to better understand what I'm buying. Everyone else is selling you a license with an expiration date. I'm just not 100% sure I trust VUDU will be around in 10 years. Maybe?
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vudu is owned by wal mart. cinemanow by best buy

but i don't trust any cloud service 100%
 
This is a blow to Apple. Their iCloud vision is now in a mess. Do we need to go back to all those clunky hard-drives and back-ups stored on other clunky hard drives? Or do they expect us to back up our purchases using iCloud storage space that's not even big enough to store a couple of movies and we can't even acces the files in it even if we wanted to? Absolute cock-up.
 
alent1234 said:
vudu is owned by wal mart. cinemanow by best buy

but i don't trust any cloud service 100%
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Cinemanow is tanking (and best buy). Walmart is doing well, but if VUDU didn't perform well down the road (they're in 3rd place behind apple and amazon from what I gather) perhaps they could be scrapped...?
 
Apparently everyone that bought the Disney videos will get them back. I now solely buy from iTunes store for my media and this freaked me out, but at least this shows Apple responds to outraged customers.
 
melendezest said:
Good point, I'd omitted that from my though process. I guess that is why a lot of studios are incorporating the digital download versions to (clumsily) mitigate the issue.

Still, I can't play a blu-ray on a Mac (even with an external drive). Apple can and should be held responsible for that one. No?
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In the past, yeah, I agree they should have.

But it's obviously not even on their radar now as they're dropping optical drives from Macs left and right. So that's clearly not gonna happen at this point.
 
keifer.street said:
There's only one problem with this - Apple TV customers 'purchase' movies directly from their Apple TV with no capability to download the content. I understand the legalese and how Disney is trying to get away with it in an overbearing effort to control the market and get more $$$, but this IS like stealing the content from Apple TV users because they do not have the capability to download the content permanently. What message does this send to Apple TV users? "Please, don't ever 'purchase' movies from your Apple TV (even though we're going to allow you to do so). It is unwise to purchase content from your Apple TV because the content providers can prevent you from viewing the content at any time"

Again, I understand that Disney wants to 'vault' these titles to prevent any new customers from purchasing them (I think the whole vault business is absurd and greedy to begin with), but there should be a mechanism for people that previously purchased the content EXCLUSIVELY FROM AN APPLE TV to view it later - they should not revoke the capability to view the content for Apple TV owners because they don't have a way to download the content.

Mark my words, this is a huge problem and I do think there is credible cause for a legal battle. I think it is disgraceful that Disney would stoop so low.
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This person gets it. The same can be said for people who only own a 16GB iPad and purchased movies. How should they download them all to local storage and keep a backup? Good luck with that.
 
Bishope1999 said:
The convenience of not having the physical media?
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Yes. Take up space. Every tv has an Apple TV, we have iPads, iPhones, iPod touches, Macs.

I also have a Seagate Wireless Plus that I use as a movie/TV backup. Travels with is. This way, on long car trips (we average 2.5 trips a year that are 2,000 miles round trip each). Just widely more convenient that physical discs for our needs.
 
kaltsasa said:
Burying the "we might yank your ****" on page 128 of the terms of service but we are going to advertise that's totally not the case might cover Apple's ass legally, but it certainly doesn't do much to endear them to even their most loyal of fanboi, me.
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It doesn't cover you legally, either. At least not in Arizona. Consumer Fraud in Arizona is defined as follows: Consumer fraud, as defined by Arizona law, is any deception, false statement, false pretense, false promise or misrepresentation made by a seller or advertiser of merchandise.

I think a fair case can be made that there is a misrepresentation here, as well as a false pretense. Yes, in a footnote they try to cover themselves, but you never know if a jury will find a small note on page 128 convincing when the entire marketing effort has been contrary to that note.
 
And they cheered the removal of the optical disc drives because that was "yesterday's technology" even though the quality of picture & sound were superior to what could be purchased via iTunes (so that Apple could take it's cut)...

And they rationalized paying just as much for iMacs "thinner thin" even after the functionality of that drive was removed because an ever-thinner desktop is far more important than making that desktop as functional and utility-rich as possible...

And they attacked those who found fault with removing the drive but not lowering the price for a less functional "all-in-one," beating them down and down because whatever Apple chooses or endorses is the ONE right way for all...

And they ignored the concept of media "lifetime license" and it's limitations by deeming physical discs obsolete (even though you can fully own, sell and give away the latter but can't do any of that with the former)

And they called upon everyone to buy into the cloud- iCloud in particular- suggesting that we don't need additional storage in our iDevices when we can just stream everything we need (which was music to the ears of the wireless bandwidth toll masters who had set both time-based and hard data cap tiers)...

And, in the end, they learned that they actually owned NONE of their media and that the owners could yank it right out of the cloud (and their streaming access) at any point in time with no notice and no refund.

And though all of this was an Apple-engineered deal, they went with the usual and found the content owners- Disney in this case- entirely at fault for doing this to them... and our beloved Apple.

iTunes = convenience but not any sense of real ownership. Discs are the last of real ownership of entertainment media. Choose wisely.
 
calvin2006 said:
I am. No more iTunes movies until this is fixed.
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I applaud your effort, but think about it. It isn't an Apple issue. It is a content provider issue. So will you still purchase physical discs? If so, you aren't "punishing" the right party.
 
aced411 said:
Anyone with kids knows the hassle of having 400 movies on shelves around the house. I was happy to box up all of our movies (after ripping them) and destroy them.
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13 years ago i maxed out at 250 DVD's and got rid of them all. i watched maybe 10% on a regular basis and the rest just sat unwatched. and married with 2 kids i don't watch as much anymore so i don't miss them

now i will only buy some movies i will watch over and over. has to be at least 65% tomato meter.

most kids movies are crap anyway. i'll normally let them watch a pirated copy first and buy the really good ones they like.
 
A Disney spokesperson told AppAdvice that Disney plans to work with Apple to ensure that users who purchased The Lion King and other content now removed from the App Store will be able to continue to download their purchases.​

So, umm... Why did they do it to begin with? Jump the shark, or the couch?
 
Razeus said:
How can they pull content that's been paid for? This is why I don't buy movies from iTunes or anywhere else as a download. :mad: I consider this THEFT and expect a class-action suit to be filed.

The formula is simple: I give you money for something you have; you give that something to me to own. If you take it back from me (especially without my knowledge), I expect you to give me my money back. Otherwise, it's called theft and there's laws for that.

What kind of world are we going to live when when companies let you buy stuff and they take it back. What is this? I give you money for nothing?

Again, I refuse to buy movies from downloaded sources for this reason alone. Ok, reason #2 is that the prices are too high.
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The studios can do what they want.

I've had movies that I've purchased get pulled from my purchases area simply because they are no longer for sale, but for rent only.
 
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