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Apple Puts Foxconn Factory in India on Probation Following Protests
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Let them pay base model iPhone at $5000. People don’t even upgrade iPhone every year anymore, so such price hike won’t matter as much.
that would not bother me at all.
So who is giving you all this information ? What is your source America biased publications ?
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Yep. Probation probably sucks. But that’ll teach em. Go apple. I think the next step after that is a nasty memo from Tim. Don’t really wanna go there.
said:Yep. Probation probably sucks. But that’ll teach em. Go apple. I think the next step after that is a nasty memo from Tim. Don’t really wanna go there.
WOW! AGAIN? TROUBLE IN INDIA?
These People are not thankful to be working and have jobs?
You can walk away from a job or just quit.
You don't have to protest or destroy other peoples stuff.
These People are not thankful to be working and have jobs?
You can walk away from a job or just quit.
You don't have to protest or destroy other peoples stuff.
My sarcasm scanner was unable to acquire a lock on this statement. Was it intended to be a Scrooge imitation?
And who exactly is going to assemble them in the USA? We have to call in the national guard to drive our school buses and help in hospitals because of a worker shortage (and these are good paying jobs). You can’t pay the assemblers minimum wage e.g. $15/hour since it’s much easier at that salary to be a gas station clerk or to drive for Uber eats at an average of $18/hour. Let’s take an average production line worker at a non union Honda plant in Ohio for example, they would make about $21/hour an assuming a 40hour week and 2 weeks of vacation per year that’s about $42k annual salary. Now Apple would have to pay more since it’s in the crosshairs and tiny component assembly is more tiresome so let’s say about $45-50k annual. In the US, benefits add about 30% on top of salary so the FTE cost per assembler is about $58-70k annually. And that’s if you can find 20,000 people who want to sit there for 8 hours a day putting things together. So even if everyone in the world were willing to pay $1200 for a base iPhone 13 you’d be hard pressed staffing your plant.
Hey Moneybags, if you watch the news at all, you'd see most people in the US having a hard time making ends meet with inflation, high gasoline prices, literally everything going up in price. Should an iPhone cost $2000, watch your Apple stock take a nose dive. Would that bother you?
I'm sort of surprised the entire assembly process isn't automated by now. I wonder if the technology exists to fully assemble phones and laptops 100% by automation?
That is sadly not exclusive to Apple and it’s factories in India. The few times I went, I was shocked how people from „lower classes“ are being treated and kicked around like street dogs. The latest experience that stuck with me was when I was by the beach and a poor guy came near me trying to sell me something (I didn’t mind) and suddenly a guy from the bar took the stick from the sunshade and chased him away, actually hitting him like as if he was „just“ a pigeon or at one of the hotels I stayed (until then), I noticed one of the guys working ALL DAY and then he literally had to sleep on the floor by the gate like a dog so when you wanted to enter the hotel at like 1 am, you had to tap his shoulder to wake him up to let you in. That was a big NOPE to me and left the next morning.
This is by no means hate on India, just showing that humanity in general has still a long way to go
This is by no means hate on India, just showing that humanity in general has still a long way to go
Apple does create jobs... by designing products that people want to buy. If that stops, the wheels fall off pretty quickly.
Let's assume for a brief fantasy moment that iPhones are made in the USA.
What do you think will come first?
(a) consumers willing to pay substantially more for their devices
or
(b) Apple and Apple shareholders willing to earn less
If there's one thing that's become crystal clear from all the recent legal entanglements Apple's been involved in it's that they're a (capital "c") Company just like any other. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as you follow the laws on the books.
All the feel-good, lovey-dovey, prose is there to serve the one thing every Company wants: more profits and shareholder return.
To quote Metallica: Nothing Else Matters.
What do you think will come first?
(a) consumers willing to pay substantially more for their devices
or
(b) Apple and Apple shareholders willing to earn less
If there's one thing that's become crystal clear from all the recent legal entanglements Apple's been involved in it's that they're a (capital "c") Company just like any other. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as you follow the laws on the books.
All the feel-good, lovey-dovey, prose is there to serve the one thing every Company wants: more profits and shareholder return.
To quote Metallica: Nothing Else Matters.
China: slave labour is not so easy to manage isn't it? Human rights vs investor return? Can't have both.
It's possible for iPhone to be made in the US.
Look at Louis Vuitton.
If all iPhones can be sold at the price of Louis Vuitton with the quality and design of Coach, then it's possible.
Those Uyghur workers are usually seen selling foods on the streets throughout China, or dwelling in their illegal cellar mosques, but thanks to extensive government programs to eradicate radicalism and poverty, Uyghurs are increasingly seen in textile production and other sorts of manufacturing, mainly in Xinjiang. Not in cotton, though, as that industry is nearly fully automated, but maybe soon in rare earth production? Come again, you want to boycott rare earths??
Anyway, the reason Apple has manufacturing in China has little to do with low wages, and the more to do with the Chinese ability to set up and automate production lines, the logistics and infrastructure, ample supply of skilled workers, that is all the stuff that is lacking in both India and the US.
So you couldn't bring the jobs back to America, because you don't have the facilities, you don't have the skilled workforce, you don't have the supply chain of electronics components that are available in Shenzhen, you don't even have the assembly work force needed to assemble those phones.
India less so.
If iPhones are made in the US, the $999 model needs to be at least $25,000.
You need to squeeze your customers as hard as you can while giving them a drip of life to be squeezed again later.
In the mean time, sell them the dream.
Manufacturing and SHIPPING cars is much more different than cellphones. Shipping cars across continents plays a major role for local manufacturing. Whereas, in cellphone manufacturing, companies tries to maximize their profits while making them w/ cheap labor.
If they really wanted to try, they would operate and manage their manufacturing plants themselves - even if it was in "cheap labour" markets.