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One billion Apple customers are happy about slave labour.

I'm not saying that they are actual slaves by force. They are Economic slaves.
So you are saying one billion apple customers are happy there are many, many people who have been given jobs who wouldn’t have had any work?
 
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are they part of the "81 million"? when you answer that, I will tell you if I care or not.



not at all. people need to get out the yearly upgrade cycle and I couldn't care less about Apple stock.
People won’t get out of the yearly upgrade cycle and manufacturers of consumer grade electronics won’t either.
 
Cost of shifting production from an authoritarian regime to the World’s largest democracy…
Nothing wrong with workers fighting for improving their rights and living conditions. I am French so maybe it’s cultural bias? Lots of angry Americans here talking about the destruction of private property of the world’s largest corporation like it’s an absolute sin. Go Indian workers and hopefully this will lead to Foxconn improving conditions for their employees globally, including in China where they don’t have freedom to protest.
 
Go Indian workers and hopefully this will lead to Foxconn improving conditions for their employees globally, including in China where they don’t have freedom to protest.
They are as free as you to protest, jump from the roof, "lying flat", or switch jobs.
 
Apple products need to be made in the USA.

Exploiting foreign workers should not be in their playbook even if they use intermediary companies like gloves.
This is (at least) how much your Made in the USA non-pro version iPhone will cost


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Apple doesn't create jobs. Consumers buying their products create jobs. No consumers = no jobs.
Yes, Apple creates jobs.

The jobs that Apple create come way before the products ever sees the light of day (and some products never make it like the AirPower charger), and before a consumer ever gets a chance to see or buy it.

The consumer is what keeps the person employed long term.
 
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Apple products need to be made in the USA.

Exploiting foreign workers should not be in their playbook even if they use intermediary companies like gloves.
What's with the casual racism of the American working class and their hatred of foreign workers?

If a person from India or China can do the same job for cheaper than an American, LET THEM. It benefits the consumers by reducing prices.

Can you imagine how expensive everything would be if Americans made these products?

Want to make everything 2-3x more expensive?

Tell the American poor or the retiree on fixed income that they should pay 2-3x more for everything they buy.
 
What's with the casual racism of the American working class and their hatred of foreign workers?

If a person from India or China can do the same job for cheaper than an American, LET THEM. It benefits the consumers by reducing prices.

Can you imagine how expensive everything would be if Americans made these products?

Want to make everything 2-3x more expensive?

Tell the American poor or the retiree on fixed income that they should pay 2-3x more for everything they buy.
Again, it is not about wages, but about supply chains, production lines, logistics and infrastructure.

China earns 3.6% of the production cost, namely for the assembly. This will only increase slightly with higher wages.
 
Again, it is not about wages, but about supply chains, production lines, logistics and infrastructure.

China earns 3.6% of the production cost, namely for the assembly. This will only increase slightly with higher wages.
Indeed, which is why it would be that much more expensive to try and produce products in the US, because now you also have to spend money to build the infrastructure as well.
 
the premium being paid is for the security, not because it is "made in America"
It's everything, from the security to the U.S. sourced components to the U.S. labor.

And it's not even using the latest components. If it did, it'd be a lot higher priced.

Put in the latest components and features you'd normally get in an iPhone and combined with Tim Cook's supply chain efficiencies and yeah, that's how much a non-Pro iPhone will cost.
 
At the very least, they should be made in the large markets that they are sold... Make Chinese market products in China. Make US market products in the US. Make EU market products in the EU. Smaller markets can get products made in whatever the closes or cheapest large market is.

This is what all the auto manufacturers do. If they can do it for cars, I'm sure they can do it for cell phones.
Less fuel waste in transport that way, too... assuming the source materials are also available locally, which they likely are not. Most of the electronics parts produced on this planet are not created in the continental USA.

Corporations abandoned local manufacturing in the USA to get slave wage labor elsewhere, especially after they abandoned component manufacturing in the states. Abandoning manufacturing in the USA resulted in a loss of expertise & experience, as well as equipment/infrastructure in the USA... which they re-characterize as the excuse “there’s no local skill/experience here” when asked “why don’t you build inside the USA”.

This is all on executives, boards of directors, and Wall Street; it’s greed, not the workers’ fault.
 
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What's with the casual racism of the American working class and their hatred of foreign workers?

If a person from India or China can do the same job for cheaper than an American, LET THEM. It benefits the consumers by reducing prices.

Can you imagine how expensive everything would be if Americans made these products?

Want to make everything 2-3x more expensive?

Tell the American poor or the retiree on fixed income that they should pay 2-3x more for everything they buy.
Huh? That’s what you got from that person’s comments? ??‍♂️ Seems you’re okay with exploited non-American workers, and would rather they be exploited so you can pay less for products as a result. Seems you have an issue with American workers not wanting to be as exploited (they still are exploited, but it could always be worse, as American executives have found outside the USA, in their pathological search for perpetual “growth” in profits by trying to perpetually shrink costs).
 
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