you should read signatures.
To be fair, showing signatures is an option in the forum software. Not everyone has it enabled.
you should read signatures.
To be fair, showing signatures is an option in the forum software. Not everyone has it enabled.
I know
Great, but you seemed to forget that might be the case when you replied to him. Otherwise, say, "I guess you have signatures turned off, because there's a slew of Apple products in my sig" etc.
I still have an iPhone 6s, myself. The only reason I even have that one is because it wasn’t $2000.I don't feel the need to upgrade yearly like Kardashian wannabes. ?
I went from an 8+ to a 12 and probably won't upgrade again until the 16. Its just a phone.
why would I do that? he is using a signature. he expects people to read his.
Just because he has a signature entered in his profile doesn't mean he has the option checked to see other people's signatures. Just saying. Let it go now, ok? Bye.
Computing is expensive enough already.
To be fair, showing signatures is an option in the forum software. Not everyone has it enabled.
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Signatures are not displayed on safari iOS.your white knighting is not necessary. I said what I meant.
Signatures are not displayed on safari iOS.
So maybe the workers should be suing the consumers?Apple doesn't create jobs. Consumers buying their products create jobs. No consumers = no jobs.
Apple products need to be made in the USA.
Exploiting foreign workers should not be in their playbook even if they use intermediary companies like gloves.
The sad issue here is contract manufacturing.
Apple has put Foxconn's factory near Chennai in southern India on probation following worker protests and the discovery of substandard living conditions (via Bloomberg).
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The factory in Sriperumbudur, which assembled iPhone 12 models prior to operations being suspended, has been shut down until "necessary improvements" are made. An Apple spokesperson told Bloomberg:Earlier this month, Foxconn shut the factory after protests triggered by 150 employees being admitted to hospital with food poisoning. Apple now says that the Sriperumbudur facility will remain on probation until it is satisfied that its standards have been met sufficiently.
Foxconn apologized in a statement, commenting that it was "very sorry for the issue our employees experienced" and is "taking immediate steps to enhance the facilities and services we provide." The manufacturer plans to restructure its management team in India and will continue to pay all employees during the downtime.
A statement from the local government added that the improvements will include expansion of living areas, upgraded bathing facilities, and available drinking water. Foxconn did not specify when it plans to reopen the plant.
The Sriperumbudur probation is Apple's second suspension in India in a year. In December 2020, workers at a Wistron factory in India ransacked the facility over unpaid wages, leading Apple to put the factory on probation. Following improvements, the facility resumed production in March 2021.
Wistron's suspension delayed Apple's manufacturing push into India, where it pledged to invest $1 billion dollars while the company seeks to diversify its global supply chains. Apple was planning to begin production of the iPhone 13 at the Sriperumbudur factory in February, but the status of these plans is now unclear.
Article Link: Apple Puts Foxconn Factory in India on Probation Following Protests
I'm following your logic and asserting that one billion apple customers are happy there are many, many people who have been paid 5% of what they deserve for decades, while the investors pocketed the difference, and at the same time hollowed-out America.So you are saying one billion apple customers are happy there are many, many people who have been given jobs who wouldn’t have had any work?
I don’t care where or how it’s done as long we can buy cheap here. Made in the US sounds good but is bad idea
Apple created products that promoted consuming, so Apple created jobs.Apple doesn't create jobs. Consumers buying their products create jobs. No consumers = no jobs.
Yes, eggs proceeded chickens. The ancestors of chickens (early birds) had eggs. The ancestors of those ancestors (theropod dinosaurs) had eggs. The reptilian ancestors of those dinosaurs had eggs. Their amphibian ancestors had eggs. The fish that gave rise to the amphibians had eggs. Even the chordate predecessors of fish had eggs.So who is giving you all this information ? What is your source America biased publications ?
What do these workers “deserve”? What is the value of their labor relative to the local job market? What would these people do and what would they earn without these foreign investments and how much better would their life be?I'm following your logic and asserting that one billion apple customers are happy there are many, many people who have been paid 5% of what they deserve for decades, while the investors pocketed the difference, and at the same time hollowed-out America.
Free to protest? In China? That is some level of trolling.They are as free as you to protest, jump from the roof, "lying flat", or switch jobs.
I want to play this game too:
no products = no consumers
Your turn
And who exactly is going to assemble them in the USA? We have to call in the national guard to drive our school buses and help in hospitals because of a worker shortage (and these are good paying jobs). You can’t pay the assemblers minimum wage e.g. $15/hour since it’s much easier at that salary to be a gas station clerk or to drive for Uber eats at an average of $18/hour. Let’s take an average production line worker at a non union Honda plant in Ohio for example, they would make about $21/hour an assuming a 40hour week and 2 weeks of vacation per year that’s about $42k annual salary. Now Apple would have to pay more since it’s in the crosshairs and tiny component assembly is more tiresome so let’s say about $45-50k annual. In the US, benefits add about 30% on top of salary so the FTE cost per assembler is about $58-70k annually. And that’s if you can find 20,000 people who want to sit there for 8 hours a day putting things together. So even if everyone in the world were willing to pay $1200 for a base iPhone 13 you’d be hard pressed staffing your plant.
Until you are outsourced. Then suddenly you’ll be up in arms.