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As a note you should be able to export your library and use that file to import into the older iTunes.

File->Library->Export Library
I decided I really didn't 'need' to 'down grade,' so I re-installed the newest version and saved the .dmg file for future use if needed. Didn't really want to create another library.
 
Hmmm not sure I agree with some of those, especially the 32 app thing. Touch ID yes, headphone jack no.
Come on... we still haven’t used face ID. We don’t know how it will work. Can we not reserve judgment about it until we’ve used it. I know Federighi is an Apple employee but he said that he and the other testers have been living on it for months now, and they don’t even think about it anymore. Can you imagine him saying that publicly as he did and then having it be a disaster, or even slightly worse that Touch ID for 99.9% of use cases? I still think it will be better or at least as good, but even that is just a total guess, because I haven’t USED it!
 
OK, so I installed 12.6.3 and rebuilt my library with a folder called iTunes1. I am redownloading all my music and apps and other media which is a lot of GB's. Can I then delete the media from my original iTunes folder? Otherwise I will have 2 iTunes folders with identical content.
 
It was the ringtones for me. I custom made some, and they all dissapeared then I went iOS11 and iTunes 12.7
Glad to this version, I get push my tones again up to the iphone.
 
So they rerelease the old version. I assume 12.6.3 will never get updated. How much longer until it starts having compatibility problems with new hardware? Will Apple reintroduce the App Store in a future version of iTunes?

Many of us were alarmed and annoyed at Apple's sudden and silent move to remove app syncing from iTunes. The regular sycophants here said we were mere complainers. Seems were not alone or Apple would not have backtracked. Apple rarely backtracks. Truth is Apple just didn't really think removing this functionality all the way though. It's like they have zero institutional memory of the whole Final Cut Pro to Final Cut Pro X episode and never learned from those mistakes.
 
Whew! This was a pretty ill-conceived effort on the part of Apple. While I understand wanting to slim down iTunes, this was a HUGE issue that could have been (and hopefully still will be) addressed by introducing a separate app-management app.

If nothing else, it killed the usefulness of all the "Available on the App Store" links that suddenly became dead-ends on the internet.
 
Uh... the name of the app should be a dead give away. It’s not just about app bloat, but overall iTunes mission creep, which has severely cluttered the main feature of the app ‘tunes’.
Really? How does having other options in the dropdown menu affect the operation when Music is selected from said menu?
 
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If I install this version, do I have to jump over the library hoops too, if I never installed 12.7 and stayed on 12.6?
 
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Continuity with autonomy should be the goal. I thought most people wanted a lighter version of iTunes, you gotta let them remove that bloat guys.

Removing bloat is one thing -- removing essential functionality (that MANY of us actually need) is another. I agree apps have no place in iTunes, but app-management definitely deserves a spot somewhere on the desktop. Personally, I'd like to see separate video, music, app, podcasts and iBooks apps.
 
LOL. Might as well get rid of the Music part of iTunes since the same applies. A tiny fraction of iOS users use Mac/PC iTunes to manage their music. The majority now use iTunes Store/Music app or Apple Music.

This argument doesn't really work because iOS apps downloaded on Mac from the app store don't work on a Mac. They only work on iOS devices. Music, movies and media downloaded from iTunes DO work on a mac.

A more pragmatic solution would be the ability to airdrop an app or group of apps from an iOS device to another. Download on one device and beam it to others.

In regards to your point about Apple Music some people (not me) speculate that Apple will completely abandon iTunes in favor of an Apple Media subscription service and this is just the first step.
 
If I install this version, do I have to jump over the library hoops too, if I never installed 12.7 and stayed on 12.6?
Wondering the same thing. I have 12.6.2. App Store says I don't need to update. Is this true?
 
In my opinion, they should remove everything but radio and iTunes Store functionality if they want to keep the "iTunes" name. Otherwise, keep the movies too, but call it "iMedia" or something. Having apps in either is ridiculous.
 
Meh, I think the idea that an iOS device needs a computer for any functionality is going to result in bad decisions. iTunes doesn't need an App Store for a device with the exact same connection to the internet and using the PC as a repository doesn't require an App Store built in for that.

Continuity with autonomy should be the goal. I thought most people wanted a lighter version of iTunes, you gotta let them remove that bloat guys.
This is the best answer.
 
You have to create a new library and move your stuff into it. I haven't done that yet. Apple should have noted that in their support document.
I just restored "iTunes Library.itl" and a few friends from a backup. You don't need to mess with your music itself (unless you've added some some your backup).
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Will the rebuilding be easy and without problems? With so much content of all kinds will there be problems?
It will rebuild but some of your custom things might be lost. Of course, your playlists are toast. But you may be able to export those under 12.7 and then import after you revert to 12.6.3
 
Now if we can get Apple to walk back other bad decisions: Headphone jack, Hide ugly top bezel on iPhone X, Restore Touch ID in iPhone XI, Restore 32bit apps, Remove ugly all white iTunes interface, Restore app purchase transfers in iTunes to desktop, iPhone 5 formfactor, High Sierra for Mac Pro 1,1, iCloud for Snow Leopard, etc...


Why would we ever want 32 bit apps back and an old iPhone design?

And why would they EVER bring iCloud to Snow Leopard when that was a feature introduced for Lion. Don't even get me started on them even wanting to support an 11 year old Mac Pro on High Sierra, it would be dreadfully slow.
 
So they rerelease the old version. I assume 12.6.3 will never get updated. How much longer until it starts having compatibility problems with new hardware? Will Apple reintroduce the App Store in a future version of iTunes?

An interesting tale about this topic: a long time ago, I purchased the parents an early iMac, circa about 2006. They can't do much with computers and use it for just the most basic of computing tasks (not really desiring updates because it still does everything they want to do on it just fine). However, I have also been keeping them set up with new generations of :apple:TV units. I convert family home movies, drop them into the last version of iTunes that works on that old Core Duo running the last version of OS X that runs on it too. I don't know the iTunes version but it's an oldie.

Curiously, it keeps right on chugging and working just fine with new :apple:TV hardware at least up through the fourth generation (don't know if it will be able to work with the new 4K version or not yet).

So while I agree with the sentiment about updates and worry about long-term compatibility, iTunes does seem to get some special level of support so that even relatively old, long-retired versions seem to be able to work with pretty well with new Apple hardware. I've also given them new iPads over the last few years and they connect right up with that old iTunes version too.

My (wild) guess though: I'm guessing that Apple is probably finally acting on the idea of splitting stuff out into their own apps, so that a future iTunes can return to being mostly about tunes. I'm guessing they were probably just not ready to roll out some kind of stand-along app manager just yet, or maybe they want to roll out some kind of suite of new apps as app manager, video manager, etc.
 
If I install this version, do I have to jump over the library hoops too, if I never installed 12.7 and stayed on 12.6?
I just did it and no hoops. Just manually download the file from Apple's website. Run the installer and done, took less than a minute. Went from 12.6.2 -> 12.6.3
 
What about the other thing they removed? Along with many thousands of users I was using iTunes on the PC to transfer ebooks onto my Ipads.

Although a direct drag and drop still works from a file in Windows Explorer straight onto an iPad showing in iTunes, it's nowhere near as convenient and my carefully curated iTunes book library is toast. The whole library management system for books is gone.

Worse you are supposed to manage Audiobooks with iTunes on the PC but play them using ibooks on ios! What's the sense of that?

I agree that some sort of itransfer program is needed to replace this much used functionality. Apple just wants everybody to buy all books from ibooks in future and doesn't seem to care about people who shop elsewhere.
 
Is iTunes 12.6.3 compatible with iOS 11 devices?

Last paragraph: This special "business edition" of iTunes includes compatibility with iOS 11, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X. It's not clear how long Apple will offer iTunes 12.6.3, and the company does not provide technical support for this version, but for those who want the functionality it could be a useful makeweight until Apple comes up with an alternative solution.
 
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I’m not stating any facts. Never said I was. Just trying to make logical observations. In the absence of evidence, one can still make a rational or logical guess. It’s far from assuming that I want it to be true.

Do either of you honestly think if you were to poll 100 iPhone users out in public, that more than a small percentage of them would be aware that iTunes is an option for managing iOS apps, let alone them actually using iTunes for managing iOS apps? Heck, I’d wager that the majority of iPhone users don’t even use iTunes on a PC/Mac.

No, in the absence of evidence you can't make a logical "guess." That's kind of an oxymoron.
 
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