As a note you should be able to export your library and use that file to import into the older iTunes.
File->Library->Export Library
File->Library->Export Library
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Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store
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Likely. And for all those people, be prepared. This will be the last time you will get an update. So don’t upgrade the software on your devices or Mac if this is important.
When was iTunes solely about music? To claim that it is mission creep solely based on the name is a bit misplaced. But I suppose it is the same for people who complained that the iPad Pro is not Pro because it doesn't do what they want it to.
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It's not necessarily the removal of the app store from iTunes that is the problem, but the fact that Apple didn't provide an alternative. Apple's solution is for every iOS device to download apps directly from the app store. That is wasteful of data download capacity and time.
I’m not stating any facts. Never said I was. Just trying to make logical observations. In the absence of evidence, one can still make a rational or logical guess. It’s far from assuming that I want it to be true.
Do either of you honestly think if you were to poll 100 iPhone users out in public, that more than a small percentage of them would be aware that iTunes is an option for managing iOS apps, let alone them actually using iTunes for managing iOS apps? Heck, I’d wager that the majority of iPhone users don’t even use iTunes on a PC/Mac.
Thousands of designers have floundered on the shoal that is iTunes.
Over the last 15 years I've never seen an organizing tool that worked for music as well as iTunes, and iTunes basically sucks. Even the Finder doesn't work.
Over the last 15 years I've never seen an organizing tool that worked for music as well as iTunes, and iTunes basically sucks. Even the Finder doesn't work.
I guess I’m in the minority because nothing I’ve ever done via iTunes on my PC has been quicker than doing it directly on my device. The only reason I use iTunes is to transfer video my iOS devices and add non-iTunes tracks to iCloud music library. If Apple gave us a way to do this without needing a PC I’d have no problem dumping iTunes.
Basically Apple’s currently situation on decision making is - should we do it or not. Oh yeah we need to release this, we need to make this. Oh it doesn’t work we need to take it out, wait we need to bring it back. We’ll wait for awhile and we’ll see. Ok should we take or not, oh just leave it there people still buy them. We need more of this, yeah that’s a good idea it’s going to sell like a hotcake. I want more colors. We got new an updated iDevices wait that’s a different product. Yeah we know we’re keeping the older version a lot of people buy them. I guess it works pretty good. 
Ah, I understand my confusion now. You responded to me in defense of someone else who was claiming that as fact. I apologize for the mixup.
Seriously? Why is it called iTunes?
Apple did provide an alternative years ago, you don’t backup apps to the Mac. Cloud services are better for mobile device installation, cloud storage is a better way to access files from your computer via your mobile device.
Did you really not see this coming with software installer discs having already gone extinct?
Ah, if you are using iTunes on a PC then I would be wholeheartedly in favor of ANYTHING that would allow one to avoid it.
It was iTunes on Windows that stopped me from getting more into Apple's ecosystem. It was (and apparently still is) that bad. iTunes on macOS is not perfect but significantly smoother.
I can just tell you several iPhone & iPad users in my family have never used iTunes. The first devices they got were after Apple supported OTA software updates. They have zero reasons to connect their device to iTunes on a PC/Mac. I’ll be the people that do need to manage apps via iTunes is a minority. And probably why Apple decided to remove the App Store from iTunes.
You're not really going to go with the whole, "people I know = most people" argument, are you?
Nah, no worries
I get it, some people like the option in iTunes. In fairness I myself never felt that iTunes was "bloated". I use it occasionally to look for new movie releases, and having iOS syncing/backup never really affects that purpose of use for me.
When I look across 10-20 close family members and friends (every day iOS users), none of them use iTunes to manage iOS apps. Actually only 2 of them even use iTunes at all, and they're more technically savvy and the kind of guys that would browse MR to see rumor/news updates. I just don't see iTunes as very frequently used at all, let alone for iOS app management. In my opinion however, I don't think it's a reason to remove the functionality.
Or even maybe build it into the Mac App Store... rebrand as the "App Store." Make it a one-stop shop for all apps - of the iOS and Mac variety. A side benefit would be giving more exposure to the Mac apps on the store, and hopefully bolstering that market.
What big release and PR spin? Was iTunes even mentioned at the September event? All I remember is this seemed to drop out of nowhere. Go to Apple’s website and there isn’t even a press release for it.
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With the ability to backup to iCloud, how many people are using iTunes to backup their iOS devices?
Yes I’m using iTunes on an old Toshiba PC running Windows 7. It’s awful but there’s no other way to do what I want without using iTunes. And the Files app in iOS 11 doesn’t let you access any media locally stored on your device. Apple keeps that sandboxes to the TV app.Ah, if you are using iTunes on a PC then I would be wholeheartedly in favor of ANYTHING that would allow one to avoid it.
Stop the madness!
What happened to the Apple I knew and loved?
What happened to the Apple I knew and loved?
- Get the latest iPhone 8 that will be replaced with iPhone X next month and iPhone 9 next year.
- Download music on iOS devices from iTunes Store and try to play it in Music app but be prompted for subscription.
- Play songs and purchase music on your desktop from iTunes.
- Get iOS apps from App Store on iOS devices but not from iTunes on the desktop unless you downgrade to recently released but unsupported version.
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Hold alt(option) key when opening itunes , and then choose Create new Library Option
I'm glad they did this but I think there should probably be separate apps for this stuff. Typically I hate multiple apps for the same device but we already have to use Photos to manage the pics so why not something else for apps. I tried Configurator 2 and it worked but was clumsy. The home screen windows were ugly and the apps didn't install in the order I selected them like iTunes would have. Its certainly not for everyday users. Realistically I would be ok with an Apple Music app for streaming, and an itunes store app for buying, stick a TV app in there for watching video, and finally an app store app, so pretty much the same thing we have on the phone itself. Sounds like a lot when I type it out but better than the junk pile that is itunes.
You are lucky to be able to even use the latest version of iTunes. That 'bloated mess' of an application finds even more new ways to screw up on a Windows 10 installation each and every time we have the misfortune to wipe and re-install it. I have never seen a more anemic install routine that crashes and rolls back constantly over and over....leaving no option but to uninstall and use Revo-Uninstaller again and again. It is the only application for Windows 10 that I can reliably GUARANTEE will not work without a Prayer Ritual and Sacrifice made to the Bloated-Ware Software Gods...on any given PC.
Sure let's fix all of that with a software update...
