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Apple Ramping Up Production of 13" and 15" Next Gen MacBook Pros
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Well, I've read thru the thread and didn't see anyone who wanted the optical drive. I, for one, use it all the time for various reasons. I really don't want to buy a separate drive that I'd have to connect. I hope Apple offers choices.
Thats why they are getting rid of it :/ because in this thread out of 100+ posts there is only you in its favour.. if you want to install something to the laptop do it at home before you travel or at work, 2 USB drives wont cost much, 1 to keep at work other at home.. how many times do you install software on a train or burn DVD's?.. mostly do it at a meeting or presentation AT AN OFFICE or IN ONE, therefore you will have 1 of your 2 USB drives with you.
Chrysler markets the Fiat and the Dodge Ram pickup. Both are good choices for people with different needs. There is no good reason to combine them into one similar design.
Same for the Air and the MBP. Why combine them unless you want to be out of the heavy lifter business altogether. Of course that is a possibility.
Same for the Air and the MBP. Why combine them unless you want to be out of the heavy lifter business altogether. Of course that is a possibility.
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Someone brought this up in a different thread but the ivy bridge list for April 29th doesn't have a quad core 35W processor listed for commercial retail which makes many think apple will continue to use the 2core processors again for the 13" MBP but there is the i7-3612QM processor which is a 35W Quad core for OEMs only. I could definitely see Apple using that for the new 13" MBP to help differentiate it from the Air and hopefully that means both the 13" and 15" could be available in may
Someone brought this up in a different thread but the ivy bridge list for April 29th doesn't have a quad core 35W processor listed for commercial retail which makes many think apple will continue to use the 2core processors again for the 13" MBP but there is the i7-3612QM processor which is a 35W Quad core for OEMs only. I could definitely see Apple using that for the new 13" MBP to help differentiate it from the Air and hopefully that means both the 13" and 15" could be available in may
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good analogy. but i do not think apple will quit the heavy lifter business.
..at some point both fiat and dodge ram had to give up their cassette players.
It will be finally good to hear when there is some SOLID news about what is happening, alot of speculation is going on. Also I bet 90% of the users who want the ODD will use the new MBP without and realise that the advantages may be greater?...
BS. A good number of people here expressed the choice of wanting a ODD. Today, while in Europe, I received via FedEx vast product data pdf files from an aircraft manufacturer in the US all on CD, which I had to take to the local NSA for review. Sorry, I don't hang at Starbucks with hip-hop in my headphones. There. I need an ODD. Quick and ready to go. In one package.
Well, since the ODD is basically guaranteed to go, there is little point in wishing for two 2.5" bays (converting the ODD bay to a 2.5" port will not create enough space savings for Apple to bother doing a redesign). What I described is not a my nice idea, it is the best you can hope for, period.
Funny that so many people manage to exactly do this. Apple must have really in it for you that the prepped your Mac specifically to make that impossible.
I bring up your father for comedy's sake. Because all notions of "I don't want the optical drive and I don't have any practical reason for hating on it other than to do it" are to be taken just as seriously as they are just as ridiculous as my stupid humor. I dare you to come up with a solid argument to the contrary. That said, I don't want a floppy drive in my laptop because NOTHING out there ships on floppies. Floppies are, today, completely useless. Many pieces of software still ship on DVD. DVDs are still more affordable than USB drives as means of distributing data to someone without using paid cloud services and eating up bandwidth. Your comparison is nowhere near accurate. Incidentally, it's not like the optical drive prevents any other use other than a second 2.5" drive which isn't something that most MacBook Pro owners are in dire need of; it's more niche of a desire in laptops than you and all the people like you in this thread and others like it claim the optical drive is today. I'm sorry that you and others like you are having problems realizing this. Incidentally it makes for great comedic opportunity and for that I am not complaining.
YOU said the ODD is completely pointless and YOU want it gone. Wonderful that the world just so happens to revolve around you. It's a great thing that the world is filled with people just like you with such self-importance; thanks to that we have no hunger problems, no economic problems, no wars, no political corruption, no nothing. People like you make this planet a Utopia! I look forward to your disappointment at yet another revision of MacBook Pros with an optical drive.
If it's marginally thinner like .01" thinner, no, that won't mean a steep compromise in power. If it's substantially thinner, then yes, it will absolutely mean a steep compromise in power. Much thinner than what we currently have, then they need to use ULV chips. ULV chips are not as powerful as the regular mobile CPUs. Similarly there is no ULV equivalent to the discrete GPUs found in the 15" and 17" MacBook Pros. Even if there were, they'd be, much like the ULV chips, vastly underpowered by comparison.
Most people don't "want the optical drive gone". Most people are ambivalent about having it. I'd say that the amount of people that really want it is probably identical to the amount of people that really don't, and the fact of the matter is that no one in the camp of people that don't want it are even aware of this split. Incidentally, most that are in that camp on these forums also believe that they are in the center of the universe and that Steve Jobs' proclamation back in October 2010 of the MacBook Air being the future of notebooks is more gospel than the religious believe the ten commandments to be, which says something as they can be pretty devout. Sadly, this never makes for productive debates when it comes to the topic of MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs.
The last design lasted six years and would've lasted longer were it not for the fact that from an engineering and servicing standpoint, the Unibody design BADLY needed to happen. Last I checked, there were no blaring engineering and servicing problems with the current unibody design, so we'll probably see this design stick around for a year and a half to two and a half more years. That said, I agree, software will continue its trend toward digital-only distribution in the UPCOMING YEARS. But we're not there yet and we still have a while to go. No one on here has yet to come up with a valid counter-point to that fact.
Thats why they are getting rid of it :/ because in this thread out of 100+ posts there is only you in its favour.. if you want to install something to the laptop do it at home before you travel or at work, 2 USB drives wont cost much, 1 to keep at work other at home.. how many times do you install software on a train or burn DVD's?.. mostly do it at a meeting or presentation AT AN OFFICE or IN ONE, therefore you will have 1 of your 2 USB drives with you.
Actually there are a ton of people here in this thread that are in its favour, you, like most others sharing your opinion on here don't wish to acknowledge those with dissenting opinions. That said, I have optical discs at home, at work, at friends' houses, all over the place. I don't have optical drives at those places and I don't wish to have to lug one around in case I do. I'm not alone in this and I really don't see what's so hard to grasp about this point. If you really hate the optical drive, buy a MacBook Air. If you want discrete graphics, ports and higher RAM capacity, man up and grin and bear the optical drive, it won't bite your head off; it doesn't add any significant amount of weight or thinness that isn't being added by other components. Chill out.
Such as...? I'm sorry, weight and thickness don't matter for me in a MacBook Pro like they do to MacBook Air users.
The ODD was relegated to a higher-end-Mac-only feature. It's not yet on the chopping block; though that is likely inevitable.
People absolutely manage to do exactly this, but they don't do it by way of the Setup Assistant BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LET YOU! THAT FUNCTIONALITY DOESN'T EXIST IN THE SETUP ASSISTANT! This isn't something Apple is doing to specifically spite me, it's something that they're not doing for all of you claiming that a dual-drive Mac laptop is in such high demand when it clearly isn't. I set a 2011 Mac mini (i7, 256GB SSD, 750GB HDD) and had to use the ditto command in the terminal and the advanced options of the user accounts pane of system preferences after the machine was already set up in order to set up the user account on a different drive than the OS.
That's an opinion, not a "claim". But your head is probably too far up your own butt to realize that. And as far as MacBook Pros having an ODD, i don't care. They can keep it forever. I won't ever buy a MacBook Pro as long as MacBook Airs are around.
Slimmer equates to less weight=better, also less power requirement=better, o, new processor=better. Anything that used to take up space and is now removed=better
He won't be the only one. I have used my imac's cd drive exactly once in the 9 months I have owned it - to install starcraft 2.
And honestly, you have no right to criticise him. You want a cd-drive, aren't you trying to make the earth revolve around you as well, by attempting to impose on us your wishes? What exactly makes your stance any more "right" than ours?
I'll be glad to see the odd gone also. I can't even remember that last time I used it, or even what I used it for. If I do happen to ever need one, I have an external one that works just fine. I would like a thin, light weight, powerful MBP with longer run time. An odd is obsolete baggage that is holding back the evolution of mobile computing. It needs to be terminated.
He won't be the only one. I have used my imac's cd drive exactly once in the 9 months I have owned it - to install starcraft 2.
And honestly, you have no right to criticise him. You want a cd-drive, aren't you trying to make the earth revolve around you as well, by attempting to impose on us your wishes? What exactly makes your stance any more "right" than ours?
All have the right to criticize all. You are not "we", nor "us", you are just you.
You, and the rest of the ODD fanatics, are most certainly the minority not the majority. Why is that so hard to understand? Yes, there are those who still have a use/need for an ODD in a laptop, but that is certainly a small group compared to the rest of the world who have no use for them. Seriously, why should the larger group have to live with a device they rarely use/need when all those who do use/need can go out and buy an external?
Seems rather arrogant for the smaller group(ODD) to expect/demand the larger group(No-ODD) to live with it... but I guess that should be expected when dealing with Apple fans. haha
Dear Mike, and just how do you know the size of any group? Have you conducted a precise poll among hundreds of thousands of potential buyers, or is it just your non-arrogant assumption of your own certainty. Mike, how about an external second drive? OK Mike, tell me and other users how many people put first the socks on, and how many elect to start with the pants? Let's start with the situation in UAE, and later continue your assumed findings country by country. Tell me Mike, how much do you know about the World?
Let me throw your question back to you. Can you show that the number of people who absolutely need a cd drive is in the overwhelming majority? Because apparently, it is okay for you to try and impose your beliefs and opinions on others, but lord forbid that others do the same.
Let me throw your question back to you. Can you show that the number of people who absolutely need a cd drive is in the overwhelming majority? Because apparently, it is okay for you to try and impose your beliefs and opinions on others, but lord forbid that others do the same.
Except that I am not even suggesting any imposition. Mike, and again, where do you get your majority from? What lord? What beliefs? Mike get a grip on yourself. Mike.
wait til June!
Why do you have to go and ruin all the fun?
Sure the pros will get the chips early just like last year, but again there is no evidence pointing that it will be released before june, it just all makes sense them refreshing problay the air and pro at the same time anncouncing mountainlion as well its going to be a grand event i'll tell you that, in the mean time save your money for a bit longer im sure it will be worth it