Apple also wants to close a major arterial street (Pruneridge), and will make major changes to the traffic flows in the neighborhood.
Would you be happy if an ego-fueled corporate building added 15 minutes to your access to 80 and 680?
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Apple Reaches Out to Cupertino Neighbors Regarding 'Campus 2' Plans
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Apple also wants to close a major arterial street (Pruneridge), and will make major changes to the traffic flows in the neighborhood.
Would you be happy if an ego-fueled corporate building added 15 minutes to your access to 80 and 680?
It isn't the developer's job to rally support for the opposition.
That card is asking for opinions, which is much more than most people would do. The check boxes are asking for help from people who are pro-development.
I'm sure if there is opposition, they will be campaigning to make people aware of how to oppose it.
I was dead serious. See, I come from this place called Europe which is home to many nations and ethnic backgrounds. As such, I am open and very much interested in new dishes, places to check out, coffee shops or bars to relax in and because of Europe's very vibrant set of cultures, I am quite social, rather than willing to be stuck in a closed world.
Hopefully you've been outside of your own borders..... if you had, you'd know what I mean.
The response card really isn't that hard to figure out, guys.
None of the three options apply? Don't check any. This will indicate that you do not support the campus. Feel like telling Apple why? Well, there's a place for that too.
Fill it out to your heart's content, then go and check that box that says...
Apple may try to address your concerns and update you on changing designs that you'll find better. Or they may not. But Apple has no interest in having people come out in force to public meetings to oppose their plans. I'm sure if they get a whole lot of cards back with the same negative comments, they'll adjust things so they gain supporters.
Sometimes I think people come to this forum to complain about Apple no matter what, even if they have to ignore the glaringly obvious. This is almost like people complaining about the Mac App Store, overlooking the fact that you can get your software from anywhere else you feel like getting it.
So again, for those who didn't get it:
You are not forbidden from sending back your comment card without one of the three boxes checked. Apple does not have magical power over the USPS that prevents them from receiving your criticism.
None of the three options apply? Don't check any. This will indicate that you do not support the campus. Feel like telling Apple why? Well, there's a place for that too.
Fill it out to your heart's content, then go and check that box that says...
Apple may try to address your concerns and update you on changing designs that you'll find better. Or they may not. But Apple has no interest in having people come out in force to public meetings to oppose their plans. I'm sure if they get a whole lot of cards back with the same negative comments, they'll adjust things so they gain supporters.
Sometimes I think people come to this forum to complain about Apple no matter what, even if they have to ignore the glaringly obvious. This is almost like people complaining about the Mac App Store, overlooking the fact that you can get your software from anywhere else you feel like getting it.
So again, for those who didn't get it:
You are not forbidden from sending back your comment card without one of the three boxes checked. Apple does not have magical power over the USPS that prevents them from receiving your criticism.
THATS what you interpreted from my response? Because I see the need to also have the voice of people against the idea as those who are for it? You mean to say that you don't like having both sides of the argument? Or do you simply assume that anyone that doesnt agree with apple's decisions (or anyone elses) is a hater?
I'm sorry, but your logic is completely flawed.
It's a "volunteer to support us" campaign. They're basically drumming up supporters. It's not a fekkin' questionnaire. I'm usually a fairly strong critic of Apple and their public affairs, but I see no problem with this.
If you were a politician looking for campaign volunteers, would you want cards from everyone who doesn't want to help, or from the people who do?
You're acting like it's compulsory to choose one of the three. There's even the largest section of the card in the lower half for questions and/or comments about the proposed campus. If people want to raise objections, that would be the place to do it.
See, I come from this place called the United States, which is home to many people from different nations and ethnic backgrounds. As such, I don't need to be open to it, I'm surrounded by dishes immigrants brought over just as a matter of course, as well as native dishes invented by people living here. I have family recipes passed down from five different cultures, and my cookbook has others from neighbors and friends who have similarly diverse backgrounds, as well as recent immigrants.
I'm sorry, did you think we all just eat hamburgers and french fries?
Yes, why? Just because it says it isn't open to the public doesn't mean I can't visit the neighbourhood.
True. It will benefit retailers and city government. It may, however, increase commute times for nearby workers and residents may see more traffic on their neighborhood streets.
HP building was nowhere near the scale of Apple Campus 2.
Apple Campus 2 is a massive structure with 2.8 million square feet of space.
Traffic congestion is the biggest concern of nearby residents.
From your link:
It's ridiculous that Apple is planning a low-rise, "park-like", campus that they already realize will be too small.
Jobs is dead, and it's time to kill the space ship and rethink the new campus.
Unlikely.
Apple does not name their buildings directly after people. They are named based on the street address (Bandley, Bubb, Infinite Loop, Mariani, etc.).
Fact.
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BTW, there's a lot more information about the project in here: http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?page=1107
I wondered about that myself. I do not know why they just didn't add a few more floors to circle when they were designing it.
Indeed, it reads like one of those adorable instruction manuals translated to English by the non-English manufacturer…
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The circle is mostly wasted space
Wider and higher would help.
Jobs is dead. Campus 2 should be too.
"I have the following comments/questions" is a perfectly legitimate place to voice concerns. They have a transparent agenda to create support/awareness of the new campus. Should they put checkboxes for "I hate it", "I don't like it", "I am indifferent to it", "I will shout down Tim Cook at the next council meeting", etc?
It's like when you get something from a presidential candidate. There are boxes for "I will donate 15, 40, 50, 100..." not, "I don't feel like giving today".
If residents of Cupertino have concerns (which they might, quite legitimately), Apple's flyer provides not one but two vehicles to express them.
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Maybe you've never been to Cupertino before, but it's most definitely a suburb. In fact, most of Silicon Valley is. I studied Environmental Science and am very aware of the benefits of denser development - but I understand that Cupertino is not the place for Transamerica Pyramids and Empire State Buildings. Even a 10-story building there would be pretty dramatic.
Personally, I like the new design. Super futuristic, but not cold. If you lived across the street, it's entirely possible that you would not even see the main building. It would turn from a parking lot to a park. Except for the traffic.
It's the genius of Apple. By not giving you a box to check, they've completely convinced you that you don't have the option of protesting. What other company has that power over you?
I live in Cupertino and got one of these in the mail today. I work directly across the street from the campus, and the closing of Pruneridge affects me a bit. Also a historical barn which was preserved by HP will have to be taken down, which I dislike. I'll go ahead and say so on the comment card but I doubt it'll do much. Going directly to city council is probably more contructive on that front. Otherwise I'm not against the building of a campus in that location.
This sentence doesn't read too well (do it slowly as if you're Patrick Stewart reading the phone book):
"Apple notes that the project will bring upgrades to streets and sidewalks in the area and add more than 2,000 tress will replacing acres of parking lots with green space."
As written, Apple will be installing 2000 tress, and I was thinking tresses, and if you image-Google that you get lots of beautiful women.
(Yes, I know what your trying to say, but ...)
"Apple notes that the project will bring upgrades to streets and sidewalks in the area and add more than 2,000 tress will replacing acres of parking lots with green space."
As written, Apple will be installing 2000 tress, and I was thinking tresses, and if you image-Google that you get lots of beautiful women.
(Yes, I know what your trying to say, but ...)
The points the man was making was about the US, not Mexico, or Canada, don't appropriate Canada to make a point.
I love these futuristic buildings kind of reminds me of GCHQ building (intelligence agency) in the UK but much bigger.
