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I'm not surprised. Apple's hardware quality has been going down the tubes over the last few years. I think I'm going to go the hackintosh route...

Do you have numbers to back up this statement? Apple's defective rate is probably no higher than a competitor's defective rate in the same product line.
 
Ooo just a proper excuse to stop into an Apple store!

Especially around Oct 7 for new Macbooks!!! Yeah good work Jobs. You had me at "hey John Mayer here...my iphone plug is sparking. What should i do?"

John do us a favor and just pull it out with your hands, promptly.:rolleyes:
 
Do you have numbers to back up this statement? Apple's defective rate is probably no higher than a competitor's defective rate in the same product line.

Check out the threads on the Apple Support Discussion site.

For example, in the MacBook section alone there are a few threads regarding wireless problems which have tens of thousands of views and thousands of posts.

Look at the cracking problems in the iPhone 3G. MacBook cases are cracking. Etc etc
 
Serve you bloody well right for not using a proper plug:

:D

Our British plugs are good for safety, but they are really big!

They were originally designed back in ye olde Britain where humans assembled them, and they weren't moulded by a machine. The wire is pretty much impossible to pull out of a moulded plug, so the design isn't as important as it once was. The prong position and internal layout means that if ever the cable gets pulled out of the plug, the first wire to get yanked out is the live, then neutral and finally earth. Also, the earth prong opens up a shutter on the live and neutral prongs, so you can't stick anything into the live holes. The earth prong is longer too, so it's always the first one connected or last one disconnected. The plugs also include a fuse, which before RCDs/breakers were commonplace, would blow if the appliance shorted out. Bloomin' marvelous!

We also use 240 volts, which means thinner wires, but it's much more likely to kill you if you get shocked :eek:

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Or they could stop treating this with kid gloves and finally make 3-Prong US (Type-B) connectors standard for Apple Products and screw those people without the grounding pin. Electronic Devices should be grounded... period.


How can you ground something like an Apple AC adapter, which is encased entirely in plastic? You could try to ground the plastic case, but it'd be rather pointless...
 
That's really funny. I just purchased a 3rd party docking station so I don't even use the charger anymore. Will still exchange it though.

I don't think this necessarily makes the charger "bad". It sounds to me that stupid people are pulling it from the socket incorrectly causing it to break. Shame on the user. Not necessarily Apple.

Please lay off the Kool-Aid. Please!

The new one is identical to the old one so there was obviusly an improvement that Apple made that could have been incorporated from the outset. How can you make a ridiculous assumption like above with no evidence.

"Oh, Apple could never be wrong, I have no evidence at all, but it must have been the user's fault for unplugging it the wrong way..."
 
:rolleyes:

OK, well if people don't know not to stick their finger into a wall socket to pull out a metal prong, they have bigger problems than a faulty adapter from Apple.

Cleaning out the gene pool. It's needed every 2 years....at least that often.
 
It's like sticking a knife or fork into the toaster without unplugging it. LOL

If you see something metal in your wall plug, it might be a good idea to NOT try to get it out while the powers still on .. LOL
 
We've been building devices to plug into standard 2 and 3 prong electrical outlets for over 100 years now. I think there are some well known standards to follow by now, for the approximate forces the prongs should withstand without breaking off.

This is quite likely yet another casualty of allowing everything to be manufactured overseas (in China especially). I have a buddy who travels to China regularly to purchase goods from them, and he says the way they do business with you, it's *critical* you specify every conceivable detail of anything you want them to produce in a factory for you. Making even the smallest assumption about them assembling something using "common sense" results in them cutting corners in that area.

I could EASILY see somebody forgetting to specify (or assuming specification wasn't necessary) the exact thickness of the metal required for the standard AC outlet prongs, and some Chinese factory saying "Hey, let's go as thin as possible on that material. It doesn't specify otherwise!" So voila, problems!


I see, Apple could never be wrong, so we should make wild assumptions as to what maybe might have possibly could have happened, all to justify Apple's negligence. Considering they have many, many, many years of experience in designing and outsourcing AC adapters, your attempted rationale falls dead flat.
 
It's not the volts that kills you, it's the amps.

Very true, but electricity at lower voltages can't pass through things so easily. Which is why you can touch both terminals of your car battery, which can supply over 500 amps at 12 volts, and you won't feel a thing. But you can get a small shock from a phone line (around 48 volts), even though it supplies a tiny amount of current.
 
Check out the threads on the Apple Support Discussion site.

For example, in the MacBook section alone there are a few threads regarding wireless problems which have tens of thousands of views and thousands of posts.

Look at the cracking problems in the iPhone 3G. MacBook cases are cracking. Etc etc

Yes, but the sample you are drawing your conclusion on is skewed. Of course people who have problems are going to seek support, hence the posts on the Apple's forums and these forums. Views on the post mean nothing, and I doubt that each post made is a unique person with the wireless issue. Even if you did count each view as a unique case tens of thousands is still a small percentage considering the millions of MacBooks that have been sold.

Several thousand 3G owners might have case cracks, compared to the 5 million + phones sold, a very small percentage. My girlfriend's MacBook is 2 years old and gets daily use and the case hasn't cracked. The wrist rest has discolored and while that is considered a defect it is purely cosmetic in nature and doesn't impact the performance of the machine. This defect was fixed in manufacturing shortly after it started occurring and she could still send it in and get it fixed if she wanted.

In most cases, if you end up with a defective product, Apple or any manufacturer will repair or replace it. Saying build quality has declined is an irrational, emotional response fueled by sensationalist blog posts.

If I get some time I'll check out Apple's financial statements to see if their warranty liability account has increased abnormally over the last few years. If so, it could hint at a higher defective rate, but it also could grow due to higher sales period over period.
 
Very true, but electricity at lower voltages can't pass through things so easily. Which is why you can touch both terminals of your car battery, which can supply over 500 amps at 12 volts, and you won't feel a thing. But you can get a small shock from a phone line (around 48 volts), even though it supplies a tiny amount of current.

Yup, 30 Volts seems to be the safe working limit. Still, I'd rather flick my finger over a 220V live wire in Europe than on a US 110V.
 
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Seriously. Contacts lag, dropped calls, using 3G/EDGE for data even when connected to wifi, case cracking, light leak, ALoDs, **** battery life, apps crashing, crap reception.

A real winner in every way. Clearly a well thought out product with time and care put into its design and production. :rolleyes:

Do you really expect anything better in this day and age? I can't think of the last thing I bought that wasn't riddled with problems. Such is the nature of mass production - get used to it. The era of things being built well is long over. The only thing I've bought in my life that hasn't succumb to some problem or another is my guitar, which surprise surprise was built in the United States by hand (Fender Stratocaster). Go figure.
 
scared

look everyone, this is just scaremongering...
there's no way this is of any concern to anyone...
I can just grab this power supply and no harm will cNNNAHAAAAARRRRGH!

zzzzzzt
 
stock up almost $7...haha.

Wow, this is a surprise...too bad really...I don't use the wall charger anyway, I always charge through USB.

oh, and LMAO at frank grimes...grimey....Hahaha
 
Or they could stop treating this with kid gloves and finally make 3-Prong US (Type-B) connectors standard for Apple Products and screw those people without the grounding pin. Electronic Devices should be grounded... period.

TEG

Why?
I don't understand the purpose of grounding.
 
How can you ground something like an Apple AC adapter, which is encased entirely in plastic? You could try to ground the plastic case, but it'd be rather pointless...

Well here in the US ( I dont know about the UK and I am too lazy to look it up, how american eh?) as long as a two prong plug is polarized (one side bigger than the other ) it really is grounded. The Ground and the Neutral connect to the same bus in the breaker box... The "hot" wire carries 120V at 60Hz (or thereabouts, sometimes alternatively 110, and these vary depending on temperature outside and the time of day). To supply 240 in the US (or 220) we simply take two opposite phase 120V lines, and there is no neutral.

Thus the third pin was added as a sort of "belt and suspenders" approach I suspect. Someone please correct me on this if I am incorrect.
 
Why?
I don't understand the purpose of grounding.

Well if your device develops a loose wire on the inside, say, and teh loose hot wire , say in your hair dryer, while still partially connected to the proper place, brushes against the metal housing... you get a nice shock!

With grounding, housings and such are connected to the "ground" or "earth" wire and this provides an alternate and easier path for the short to follow (not through you) and you dont get shocked, and the breaker trips.

On polarized plugs, they treat the "neutral" as a ground wire (its really connected to the same bus in the breaker box so they are the same) and this provides the same level of protection. This is why one side of most modern electrical appliances with two prongs have one prong slightly larger than the other and it will only plug in one way.
 
WTF. I just bought 2 of these yesterday at the apple store. NOW they are recalling them the next day? Good grief. Perhaps they should have pulled them off the shelves???
 
I'm surprised that Apple didn't offer a low-cost exchange program where iPhone 3G users can get the standard iPod USB charger (the one with the fold-up prongs) at 50% off normal price. I'm using the standard charger for my 3G iPod nano with no problems. :)
 
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