Apple Reclosing Some Stores in Texas Amid Spiking Coronavirus Cases

[Brandhouse]

Why? We should quarantine for flu if our goal is to save lives. The flu is also a very serious Virus that kills tens of thousands of people.

We just deal with the flu and we will deal with this. Permanent quarantine saves lives for many things, but it’s not practical.

Disagree all you want.

Umm, no. With the flu you can get a flu shot, with COVID-19 there is nothing, not yet.

 

[SocialKonstruct]

The reason they went bankrupt is due to the local government overreaction.

Golds gym isn’t going anywhere

News | Gold's Gym to Emerge From Bankruptcy With Smaller, More Urban Focus

Fitness Brand to Trim 'Big-Box' Locations to 'Attract New Level of Entrepreneur,' CEO Says

www.costar.com

I doubt that they will be around in the same form as before... but Apple is doing much better regardless.
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Umm, no. With the flu you can get a flu shot, with COVID-19 there is nothing, not yet.

Only fools think that COVID is the flu. If there is one thing that I got my master's in epidemiology from Yale is that not all diseases are created equal. I definitely would never consult MacRumors for my public health research.

 

[tillsbury]

If you are a healthy person, YOU WILL BE FINE. Wear a mask and go on with your life.

I'm so pleased for you, that you've never watched a loved one go through the agony of slowly dying from this very unpleasant disease.

 

[Stella]

Second wave! Surge! We’re all gonna die!

Second wave?

The States is still in the first wave!

 

[SocialKonstruct]

I'm so pleased for you, that you've never watched a loved one go through the agony of slowly dying from this very unpleasant disease.

Yes. Two of my friends got COVID-19 as a couple and it caused their miscarriage. Very depressing.

 

[0924487]

time to sell your stonks

This is a short term issue. It will be okay in 3 to 5 years.
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What's the acceptable threshold to reopen the economy? Without a precise answer to this it's impossible to have a conversation.

Science in good conscience.

 

[omihek]

Anyone who wants to control the world now knows exactly how to get the entire world to kneel at their feet and do whatever they say. Kinda cool, as a Wednesday night dollar movie. But in real life? Just kinda pathetic IMO.

 

[cvam1985]

“But muh freedums!!1!”

I have enjoyed the freedom of breathing fresh air everywhere I go without a face diaper and you can enjoy the freedom of customizing your cute Memoji face covering to whatever color makes your heart sing. Different strokes!

 

[Professor Rucy]

Thank goodness I live in Utah... last time I was in Texas I couldn't find sushi 😕

Because nothing screams “fresh sashimi” like Provo!

 

[cmaier]

I have enjoyed the freedom of breathing fresh air everywhere I go without a face diaper and you can enjoy the freedom of customizing your cute Memoji face covering to whatever color makes your heart sing. Different strokes!

“I am enjoying the freedom to randomly discharge my pistol in arbitrary directions and you can enjoy the freedom of giving a **** about other people. Different strokes!”

 

[Mayostudent]

Yeah, because I’m saying not to panic, take precautions and not to shut down again, I’m an imbecile. It’s a respiratory virus that doesn’t kill young or healthy people. The human race will deal. This isn’t the only threat to our health, get over it.

Virus is real, bro. But shutting down and creating tons of other problems doesn’t help either. We will manage it like we manage other viruses and ways people die.

Cigarettes, sugar, far, and a sedentary lifestyle cause far more damage than this virus, but you can’t see the impact as quickly so no one thinks those are nearly as dangerous. But they are far worse. Just because this is a new virus, doesn’t mean we all need to freak out forever. The death rate is artificially high and its proven already there are more at risk groups and those people make up the majority of the deaths.

If you are a healthy person, YOU WILL BE FINE. Wear a mask and go on with your life.

You just listed off the exact list of what puts most people at high risk from covid-19.

 

[jimbobb24]

Pretty much everywhere will see increased cases compared to the days when everyone was huddling in their homes. History may show that closing businesses only prolonged the inevitable

Or was a complete waste of time. Still the other countries have not seen the pattern of the USA. Sadly it will be 2-3 years before anyone knows exactly what happened in the US.
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We shut down to flatten the curve and learn more about it. We learned that transmission is significantly reduced if you wear a face mask and social distance. So what do we do? Open back up, and people have been threatening to murder various county and state health officials who have mandated masks, and have murdered employees who have stopped them from entering a store because they're not wearing a mask. They've packed into crowded restaurants and other venues. Even where I live, in a college town where about 75% of adults have a college degree and 25% have a masters or higher, only 1/3 of people are wearing masks. A lot of people are not following social distancing and having big neighborhood parties. This US is nearly lawless and out of control right now, run by mob rule.

I always see people point to the projections from groups like the IHME that the Coronavirus Task Force frequently relied upon, primarily because they would always forecast the lowest projections. But why are the projections always off and miss reality? They assume people following guidelines of social distancing and wearing masks. So people look at those numbers and think "Well, this is over! The numbers are going to trail off." and they do the exact opposite and seem surprised when the numbers go up. Those numbers only work if you as an individual put in the effort to follow guidelines! I feel like all of this is a communications issue. It needs to be stated clearly from the top. Good luck with that. All of these other countries have figured it out and we're still flailing about like some third world country. Although honestly there are a lot of third world countries that are better off than the US right now, lol. It's insanity.

People also held giant protests/riots all over the country and continue to do so.

I find much of the response to CV-19 perplexing. You have the ... shut everything down and even one death is unacceptable and the... be free and no one can tell me anything and masks are for drones.

I think widespread contact tracing with masks should enable to open up with acceptable risk but people have somehow turned a virus into a partisan issue. Americans - is there anything we cannot do?

 

[TiggrToo]

Godzilla is scheduled for July, reptilian invasion is scheduled for August, and the AI Skynet revolution is scheduled for October. September is free for now.

Thought we had the Alpha-Centurians around in September for a quick invasion. Or did they reachedule until after Christmas?

 

[jimbobb24]

I couldn't agree more, especially as other places around the world are getting spikes of new cases. Places and businesses are too keen to reopen (which I can fully understand their keenness) but its all about money/the economy first, and peoples lives are coming second in my opinion.

I also feel that people are getting lacks and flouting lockdown restrictions more and more.

In general the degree in which you don’t care about businesses opening up may be related to how your job was impacted. People stopped doing cancer screening during the lockdown. Nurses lost their jobs and people are ... not hyperbole ... going to die because their cancer care was delayed. It’s complicated. There is no easy answer. Suicides probably going to rise with joblessness. It’s a disaster any way we do it.
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Still way fewer deaths than New York.

Staying inside might not be the answer, either, since HVAC systems might spread the virus.

Texas low death rate is very interesting. The biggest cause of death may end having been how states handled nursing homes. That may end up being more important that the lockdowns or masks or anything.

 

[Brandhouse]

News | Gold's Gym to Emerge From Bankruptcy With Smaller, More Urban Focus

Fitness Brand to Trim 'Big-Box' Locations to 'Attract New Level of Entrepreneur,' CEO Says

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I doubt that they will be around in the same form as before... but Apple is doing much better regardless.
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Only fools think that COVID is the flu. If there is one thing that I got my master's in epidemiology from Yale is that not all diseases are created equal. I definitely would never consult MacRumors for my public health research.

I didn't say that COVID-19 is the flu, I was replying to someone else who thinks it's just like the flu. You didn't read what I was replying to.

 

[Baymowe335]

Umm, no. With the flu you can get a flu shot, with COVID-19 there is nothing, not yet.

A flu shot huh? Pretty effective, eh? Yeah, only 61,000 deaths in the US in a single season and countless more across the world.

If you cared about human life, you would have been on board with an all out quarantine, closure of Apple stores, and waiting until a super vaccine for the flu was created before stepping foot outside again.

And I hope you’re a lobbyist against trans fat, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, soda, and sitting on the couch too much. Those create nearly all the risk factors for diabetes, heart disease, hyperthyroidism, and yes, dying from Covid19.

/sarcasm
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I'm so pleased for you, that you've never watched a loved one go through the agony of slowly dying from this very unpleasant disease.

I actually quite sorry if you‘ve gone through this.

However, at a macro level, this virus is Not nearly as dangerous for those who have no underlying conditions, don’t smoke, and are relatively young. It’s jut a fact confirmed by the CDC. I’m not trying to be insensitive, but you can’t be objective if it’s touched you personally...totally understandable.

Those with any underlying conditions or elderly NEED to take extreme precautions as they would against other viruses. Pneumonia, strep, the flu, etc are also very dangerous, contagious conditions that cannot always be treated despite having mediations and even vaccines.

 

[Brandhouse]

A flu shot huh? Pretty effective, eh? Yeah, only 61,000 deaths in the US in a single season and countless more across the world.

If you cared about human life, you would have been on board with an all out quarantine, closure of Apple stores, and waiting until a super vaccine for the flu was created before stepping foot outside again.

And I hope you’re a lobbyist against trans fat, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, soda, and sitting on the couch too much. Those create nearly all the risk factors for diabetes, heart disease, hyperthyroidism, and yes, dying from Covid19.

/sarcasm
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I actually quite sorry if you‘ve gone through this.

However, at a macro level, this virus is Not nearly as dangerous for those who have no underlying conditions, don’t smoke, and are relatively young. It’s jut a fact confirmed by the CDC. I’m not trying to be insensitive, but you can’t be objective if it’s touched you personally...totally understandable.

Those with any underlying conditions or elderly NEED to take extreme precautions as they would against other viruses. Pneumonia, strep, the flu, etc are also very dangerous, contagious conditions that cannot always be treated despite having mediations and even vaccines.

Take your trolling elsewhere please.

 

[DesertNomad]

We could lower the national speed limit to 15mph and save 40,000 lives every year but nobody is considering that. The original point was to slow the spread so as to not overwhelm the hospitals. Eventually we will all get this and develop some level of immunity. To think that we can remain quarantined forever is insanity.

 

[cmaier]

We could lower the national speed limit to 15mph and save 40,000 lives every year but nobody is considering that. The original point was to slow the spread so as to not overwhelm the hospitals. Eventually we will all get this and develop some level of immunity. To think that we can remain quarantined forever is insanity.

1) masks would have already saved 60,000 Americans, and that’s in just 2 months.
2) no, that was not the entire original point.
3) no we will not develop some level of immunity without killing a LOT of people. Less than 1% of the population has had the disease, yet >120,000 Americans are dead from the disease. Even if we assume that there is herd immunity for this disease (not clear, because antibodies seem to disappear too fast), it takes >60% of a population in order to establish herd immunity.

So multiply 120,000 times 60. You need that many people to die in order to “develop some level of immunity.”

4) nobody is saying stay quarantined forever. We’re saying stay quarantined while r>1.0, or until a vaccine or effective treatment is developed.

 

[QCassidy352]

We could lower the national speed limit to 15mph and save 40,000 lives every year but nobody is considering that. The original point was to slow the spread so as to not overwhelm the hospitals. Eventually we will all get this and develop some level of immunity. To think that we can remain quarantined forever is insanity.

I've seen people on this board literally post that we're "past that" (meaning past the point at which hospitals could be overwhelmed), and yet...

Area Hospitals Could Reach Capacity In Mere Weeks Because Of COVID-19, Austin Officials Warn

Lee esta historia en español. Austin-area medical professionals and health authorities warned that local hospitals could be overwhelmed by COVID-19…

www.kut.org

Yakima County hospitals overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients

The number of available beds at Yakima County's primary hospital fell to zero over the weekend.

www.krem.com

Officials say if COVID-19 surge continues, hospitals may be overwhelmed

"It's spreading so quickly, and it's in danger of getting out of control," one expert said. "You could be looking at a 10 fold increase."

abc13.com

As if things somehow magically couldn't get worse, even if we did all the wrong things.

Also, agree with @cmaier that not overwhelming hospitals wasn't the entire point. It was definitely a big part of it, but if we assume a vaccine is coming in the next 12 months (seems likely given how many good candidates there are now), we can also just outright reduce the number of people who get it.

 

[Cycom]

Second wave?

The States is still in the first wave!

Gotta hunker down and prepare! Say your prayers, people....this time it’s serious!
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1) masks would have already saved 60,000 Americans, and that’s in just 2 months.
2) no, that was not the entire original point.
3) no we will not develop some level of immunity without killing a LOT of people. Less than 1% of the population has had the disease, yet >120,000 Americans are dead from the disease. Even if we assume that there is herd immunity for this disease (not clear, because antibodies seem to disappear too fast), it takes >60% of a population in order to establish herd immunity.

So multiply 120,000 times 60. You need that many people to die in order to “develop some level of immunity.”

4) nobody is saying stay quarantined forever. We’re saying stay quarantined while r>1.0, or until a vaccine or effective treatment is developed.

Just stay inside. You’ll be safe there.

 

[steelhauler34]

1) masks would have already saved 60,000 Americans, and that’s in just 2 months.
2) no, that was not the entire original point.
3) no we will not develop some level of immunity without killing a LOT of people. Less than 1% of the population has had the disease, yet >120,000 Americans are dead from the disease. Even if we assume that there is herd immunity for this disease (not clear, because antibodies seem to disappear too fast), it takes >60% of a population in order to establish herd immunity.

So multiply 120,000 times 60. You need that many people to die in order to “develop some level of immunity.”

4) nobody is saying stay quarantined forever. We’re saying stay quarantined while r>1.0, or until a vaccine or effective treatment is developed.

Bye we will see you in a year or maybe a few who knows. Yo better stay inside

 

[cmaier]

Bye we will see you in a year or maybe a few who knows. Yo better stay inside

I am staying inside. Because i have basic math skills, and enough education to know when to believe people who actually know what they are talking about.

 

[QCassidy352]

Bye we will see you in a year or maybe a few who knows. Yo better stay inside

It's not a binary choice. You can leave your house plenty and still be smart about how/when/where you go.

 

[Brandhouse]

A flu shot huh? Pretty effective, eh? Yeah, only 61,000 deaths in the US in a single season and countless more across the world.

If you cared about human life, you would have been on board with an all out quarantine, closure of Apple stores, and waiting until a super vaccine for the flu was created before stepping foot outside again.

And I hope you’re a lobbyist against trans fat, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, soda, and sitting on the couch too much. Those create nearly all the risk factors for diabetes, heart disease, hyperthyroidism, and yes, dying from Covid19.

/sarcasm

I don't read sarcasm in your post, I read assumptions and garbage. I read someone who is stepping very close to the rules of this forum to harass people's views . Yes, of course I care about life! I'm all onboard for quarantine, I've been working from home now for almost 4 months and closure of things with very strict regulations on distancing, etc. COVID-19 is not the flu.
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I agree. Increased cases was an inevitability when quarantine was lifted. Big deal. What does a positive case mean other than you’re probably going to survive?

Because you catching it could mean you pass it onto someone whom it could kill, duh!

If you test for it, then you should go into isolation until you get the results back. And if you test positive, you should go into isolation until you've got over the infection, or you go into hospital if it's bad enough until you've recovered.