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Apple Refreshes 21.5-Inch and 27-Inch iMacs With Brighter Displays, Kaby Lake Processors, and Faster Storage

OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Bring on the complaints about iMac Pro prices from people that have no real reason to need the power it offers.

"This Porsche 959 is far too expensive!"
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Except it is just as mass produced and with a lower powered engine than the Chevy at half the price.
 
scoobs69 said:
Actually, the base model iMac Pro is targeted precisely for users like me - Capture One Pro uses multiple cores effectively, and it also uses GPU acceleration better than any other RAW processor for photography. I can easily use two displays, but like I said, there's no way I'd pay $5,000 for that machine when I can build a better one for far less.

Apple is charging $200 for an 8GB 2400Mhz ram upgrade on their new regular 2017 iMacs (from 8GB to 16GB). I can get 32GB 3000Mhz for $275. To go from 8GB to 32GB in a regular 2017 iMac, it would be a $600 upgrade. ...And the fact it's an closed system (beyond the ram) is worse.

Apple also crippled the 21" iMac - wish they'd have offered at 4.2Ghz CPU in that little thing, along with an option for an 8GB GPU. That might have been my perfect machine for a dual display set-up. But nope!

I never said the iMac Pro isn't going to be perfect for a large number of pros. I'm saying it's overpriced, even for those large number of pros.

As for the Mac Pro....I've already been waiting 8 years for a worthy upgrade. If the iMac Pro is starting at $5,000, it's a fair bet the Modular Mac Pro will start somewhere in the neighborhood of $6,000 without a display. It won't start less than $5,000. I'll be surprised if it starts at $5,000.

If you don't need anything more than a 4 core machine, then the 21" iMac is probably perfect. If you're going to use any of the iMacs (regular or Pro), it's just flat out over priced. By a long shot. And waiting 3 years for a modest speed boost with an Intel chip that'll be outdated in three weeks... ?


I was very much like most Apple users, as I've been an an unapologetic Apple fanboy for 35 years. But over the past year, as Apple continued to ignore their "pro users", I began looking for other options. I was really hoping to be wowed today, and perhaps have a little bone thrown to the pro users for waiting this long, like drop that entry level iMac Pro price by $1,500, (and drop the price of the 2017 iMac by $500), and I'd be all over the Pro.

But yeah. Please don't tell me the iMac Pro isn't for me. It is. It's just too freaking expensive.
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Also as much as it is PRO when it gets released, your still stuck with non upgradeable components. Didn't Apple learn their lesson by the D700 GPU's? No one even knows how the AMD VEGA hardware will compare and compete once 2018 comes around..
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Minxy said:
Im not familiar with AMD graphics cards. Does anybody know how good the 8GB Radeon Pro 580 is in the top tier iMac?

I want to use Premiere Pro but read that it's optimised for Nvidia. Should this card be fine?
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Premiere Pro is only optimized for Nvidia and CUDA. Apple Final Cut Pro X is only optimized for AMD and OpenCl. Not saying you couldn't switch those, but if I where to build a PPro Station it would be Nvidia 100%.
 
I made a comparison chart comparing the iMac Pro specs and price to other popular workstations for those wondering...

In conclusion the new iMac Pro will be priced perfectly :)
 

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maikerukun said:
I made a comparison chart comparing the iMac Pro specs and price to other popular workstations for those wondering...

In conclusion the new iMac Pro will be priced perfectly :)
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BOXX is configured with Quadros. Also you can buy a BOXX today.. Can I buy and iMac Pro today?
 
The iMac Pros are oh so close to what I would want for our standard fleet of creative workstations. By next year I really need a clear path to move on from my fleet of cMP's with Maxwell-era GPUs. Our NEC PA301W and 302W displays will also need upgrades / replacement, so replacing both at the same time with an iMac Pro doesn't look bad at all.

For this class of workstation for our uses, 8 or 10 cores is plenty sufficient. 128GB RAM? Great. 1-2TB flash storage? Fine. 10Gb ethernet? Excellent.

The downsides? Too bad our 10Gb infrastructure is already fiber / SFP+ and not 10Gb-Base-T, but we still have our wildly overpriced Thunderbolt to SFP+ bridges we can use for that, unless someone makes a far cheaper TB3/USB3.1 unit. I've standardized on Nvidia GPUs across the board, and even with eGPU as an option I wish Apple would welcome them back under the hood once again.
 
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what a joke, +200 extra to put the 256ssd in it.

does anyone know if the hard drive can be changed or is it soldered? i'm comfortable working on computers

id put my own ram in it too

looking at the 21.5imac mid level one

I'm sitting on a 2009 24in iMac right now which is in dire need of an upgrade, tough going from 24in to 21.5in screen
 
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any ideas whether they are bringing back target display mode now that they have upgraded the ports ? It would be nice to be able to connect a windows PC to it, at least for those of us who use 2 machines.
 
MistrSynistr said:
I'll take you up on this offer.

The chassis on the iMac's should of been re-designed. Especially for the new iMac Pro. This is lazy. They tossed that space gray on it as camouflage.
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you don't understand Apple, evidently. They don't do new designs just for the sake of new designs. if it doesn't add something then they aren't going to redo the shell.
 
Gallbladder said:
Indeed it is, per chat with Apple.
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Happen to ask specifically which RAM modules will work?

I'm guessing this should work (hopefully)?

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct2k16g4sfd824a

Thinking about plopping down for a specced out 27" and want to do the base 8GB RAM option so I can upgrade it myself. There's not really any info available as to exactly what RAM will work yet though.

And of course I have to include my comment about the absurd prices Apple up-charges for RAM and SSD upgrades. Same as it's ever been I suppose...
 
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I neglected to ask. I'm ordering the 8GB. By time it arrives, the RAM vendors will have that info, I'm guessing.
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
The iPhone and services are the bigger market for Apple. That is the reason why they offer their hardware at affordable prices.
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There's nothing affordable about it. It's still overpriced. It just looks cheap in comparison to the really overpriced stuff at Apple.
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Bring on the complaints about iMac Pro prices from people that have no real reason to need the power it offers.

"This Porsche 959 is far too expensive!"
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You just need to live with the fact that losers always complain. They’re the same people who vote down an Arthur Rubinstein video on YouTube.
 
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