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So the entire world of marketing is a farce because only good products "sell themselves?"

No product at this scale "sells itself" entirely and no product of this scale is a poor product.

Stop being so cynical. Apple does A LOT to advocate privacy and more than any company in tech.

Are you sure?
 
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Like Samsung phones and Ford trucks?

You forgot Chevy, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Mini, Kia, Jeep, Nissan lol.
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It's a matter of the greater good. If my apartment house is on fire I would be expected to call the fire department...and not expect payment.

Lol! Those are called taxes. Clearly you don't get it. At all. Taxation is also theft. JS.
 
That’s a weird position to take. Their stance is fake because their MOTIVE for protecting privacy isn’t one of pure altruism? Why should I care what their motive is?

The fact that they don’t need to monetize my privacy, combined with the fact that they CAN monetize NOT monetizing my privacy, is reason enough for me to trust that they will do what they can not to invade my privacy.

“If [some other universe existed, then] their ‘privacy’ stance would be completely different.” I mean, seriously. What kind of point is that? If we lived in the evil parallel Spock-goatee universe than Apple would be evil and google would be a bunch of freedom fighters trying to save us from invasions of privacy. So I’ll go with google?

Right now Apple has no need to invade our privacy, their products are designed to avoid invading our privacy, and they promise not to invade our privacy. That puts them ahead of most alternatives in regards to privacy, even if they aren’t perfect, and regardless of their motives.

IMO it all falls apart with giving over icloud infrastructure to Chinese government.
Yeah they don’t invade our privacy for ads but the provenly would sell us out to a fascist totalitarian regime that literally makes organ donors out of homosexuals
 
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Bit like saying, none of our own police will commit a crime, but we are happy to allow other criminals to use the police station and it's equipment as we make money from them.
But will still strongly say none of our police are bad.
 
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You forgot Chevy, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Mini, Kia, Jeep, Nissan lol.
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Lol! Those are called taxes. Clearly you don't get it. At all. Taxation is also theft. JS.
Man, do threads like this bring out the crazies.
 
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My miles have varied for the worse. DDG results are abysmal. I also don’t trust the DDG founder any more than I trust Google. Although they have stated their tracking pixels don’t have any private data, you can still correlate things about the user from the simple pixel firing. Look at how many tracking pixels fire per search request.

Tech companies have different privacy rhetorics for their niches.
What does that mean?
 
Hostnames are lowercase, there is no PrivacyIsImportant.com domain
 
But they didn't get WHOIS privacy from the registrar?
Such services exist primarily to obscure private user's info, so companies can't find them to market to them. Do you think anyone needs to look at WHOIS data to hunt down Apple? They've got a home office that can be seen from space. If their goal was to hide from the public, they've been doing it all wrong for decades.

Hostnames are lowercase, there is no PrivacyIsImportant.com domain
"Labels in the Domain Name System are case-insensitive, and may therefore be written in any desired capitalization method, but most commonly domain names are written in lowercase in technical contexts." (Wikipedia, citing RFC 4034). Rendering domain names in CamelCase sometimes makes them easier to parse. "privacyisimportant.com", in any case, is a domain name, not a hostname.
 
Such services exist primarily to obscure private user's info, so companies can't find them to market to them. Do you think anyone needs to look at WHOIS data to hunt down Apple? They've got a home office that can be seen from space.

I know.

I just thought it was funny that we're looking at the public WHOIS records for a domain name about privacy.

It made me laugh. That's all. :p
 
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Apple gives you the ability to switch your search engine to DuckDuckGo. Are you saying Apple is as bad as google because apple allows the use of google? Because it sets it as the default? Should it be banned from Safari? Should chrome be banned?

And who is better on privacy than Apple?

And, again, the argument is lame: Apple doesnt need the data so therefore the fact that they don’t use our data is not a good thing? Their motive is immaterial: Apple has positioned itself to (1) not need my data and (2) to market that lack of need to its advantage. Those are two very good reasons for me to expect that Apple will not do slimy stuff with my data. From my perspective, that’s great. Why on earth would I care if Apple is not doing it out of pure altruism?

Since when was that even the measure of anything? Nobody does anything out of pure altruism. When you do something nice you feel good about it. Very selfish of you doing that nice thing. Instead of hanging out with you, who only does a lot of nice stuff because it makes you feel good, I’m going to hang out with Jeffrey Dahmer. That guy is authentic.

Such stupid arguments to criticize people doing the right thing for the ‘wrong’ motive.
Oh, the “there’s no such thing as a selfless good deed” argument from Joey in friends :rolleyes: have you ever sat in a philosophy class?
 
Is privacyisnotimportant.com taken? One should buy that and forward it to Google/Facebook. :D
The above mentioned companies own a faulty Webber dictionary, where instead of word Privacy, there is the word Breach two times
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Oh, the “there’s no such thing as a selfless good deed” argument from Joey in friends :rolleyes: have you ever sat in a philosophy class?

I have studied philosophy and psychology and I still believe people do good deeds selflessly.
Not talking about this case, of course.
If Apple would really be that 100% committed to privacy, they would have Facebook’s and Google’s apps on a grill long ago
 
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