Define to me "what happens on your iPhone means". I would suggest that most users would say the act of interacting with the device, viewing and inputting data is "what happens on your iPhone" as by interacting with the device things happen. The Wall Street investigation discovered apps sharing data with Facebook that the users hadnt given explicit permission for the apps to share. So I refute the suggestion that my post was pedantic.
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Apps that go against the TOS are removed from the app store. The TOS states the privacy policy must be disclosed to the user and not disclosing the data transmissions is violation of the TOS and these apps should be removed from the app store. The developers who do that are unscrupulous, so there is that and Apple is responsible for making sure apps adhere to the TOS. But with millions of apps is not an all or nothing approach. Secondly if a iphone user uses Safari to go to Facebook or google are you still going to use the same logic? That is interaction with sites on your iphone that may use your pii in unauthorized ways is somehow Apples' fault?
Personally I've never used Facebook, never had an account of any kind there or with Googles Circle, Bebo or any other social network. But I am a privacy conscience person.
And I agree with you completely that some people are deluding themselves about privacy. To put it in an analogy it's like someone who eats a 19" Pizza on their own and then says it's okay because they had a diet coke with it instead of a normal one. The iPhone may be the most privacy minded mainstream phone available but if you're using it to access all these privacy invading services like Facebook then you're losing the privacy battle overall.
I think that Apples wording on their billboard is at best misleading and at worst a lie. Personally I think it was worded in such a way to deliberately mislead. That is not ethical.
I don't view it that way. It's clearly Apple's intent in addressing customer privacy, even seemingly at the expense of the development of their own products. Because some unscrupulous developer took advantage of a loophole by not disclosing the required information to the consumer doesn't render the intent of the wording on the billboard false. But as in all things YMMV on this.
Sorry, I thought you were saying no one did anything selflessly. As for the Apple part, they have to balance things. They can’t just ban them from the App Store can they? People like to use their services - some knowingly about the consequences for doing so, most just want free things. Apple have to let people chose, and take responsibility for themselves. Education needs to take place though.
I think the way people don’t care about prvacy in this case is psychological. I see it as similar to why we haven’t stopped and taken drastic measures to care for the environment, or reduced our meat intake because of animal suffering - it doesn’t affect the individuals immediately RIGHT NOW enough to make them understand what’s going on. You can’t see the consequences enough of using Facebook or Google, so who cares if it’s free? Environment - same, people just wanna consume and buy what they want. Animals - same, we’re blind to what goes on behind the scenes.
Facebook and Google have data on people even when they don’t use their services with accounts, so the battle is already lost (this should be illegal to do, I say).
All they had to do, is to make you think they can't and give you a physical crypto key.
What you are suggesting is actually similar to Google's approach. You can use a physical authentication key.
But there is a catch, they made it so its already wide open by YOU.
They just have to provide you with the perception of safety and security.
There is nothing much they can, the only safe way is to eg. wipe and setup a dummy account on the device when travelling. Restore it after screening. Try to avoid cloud service, or use it without your name on it.
IMO, Your post 6 didn’t have any meaning when it was written and still doesn’t. Facebook doesnt happen on your iPhone and if people don’t know that, it’s on them not apple. Apple is not censoring Facebook to make sure some anonymous Internet forum posters can’t try to catch apple being “two faced”, which is what you are attempting to do.
It is like you, loosing your wallet. Now someone finds it and give it you back.
Would you say to him "give it to me and go **** your self" or would you give him a reward? Does this person works for you? He can sell it on the black market (earn a lot more money) or give it to you (only a small amount of money).
I don't know how this works in the US, but here in Europe people do this and there is even a law that requires you to give at least 5% of the value as a reward (§ 971 BGB).
Over the years I have found stuff, cell phones, wallets, bags etc and have returned them to the owner without expectation of a reward. Why? It's called karma, and I hope one day, if and when I will need assistance from the public for whatever reason, there are kind souls who render the aid required just because it's to help out a fellow human being.
Bring this back to the discussion, if I found some critical vulnerabilities I would notify the appropriate concerns. If people want to make a living by extorting companies, they should get back what they gave.
"extorting companies", Yes, and this is the reason, why security vulnerabilities will be sold on the black market. This is only possibly because Apple gives a **** about there customers.
Maybe that person should work for google. I think when you were trying to criticize apple you left out the word "doesn't. So yes, "extorting".
There’s an important distinction between receiving a reward and requiring a reward. Don’t you see the difference between me rewarding someone for returning my wallet and that person refusing to return it unless I promised him a certain sum in advance?